So we ran Stans off and after 5 years of suckass basketball

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03-04-2018, 08:33 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Why would you do so? Basketball team isn't in the red and the university most certainly isn't after getting 40 mill from the SECN alone so if it was your business and you're already making fat bank I would think you'd want the atmosphere to be as helpful for your team as possible instead of trying to make another buck.

I think he's referring to women's. And hell yes thy are in the red. Now, I'm not saying add more reserved. Just pointing out we are big time in the red on women's hoops.
03-04-2018, 08:34 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Doubt it loses money after this season after having 6 straight sellouts. Certainly don't need to leave more open seats from sold season tickets to men's games just to make up money lost from women's hoops when we are sitting in the black.

We are going to lose 4 million on women's hoops. Just what it is. Now I'm willing to take the loss, and ling as we win. I'm good
03-04-2018, 08:34 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I think he's referring to women's. And hell yes thy are in the red. Now, I'm not saying add more reserved. Just pointing out we are big time in the red on women's hoops.

Not sure how they could be this year since they average more fans than the men do
03-04-2018, 08:35 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I think he's referring to women's. And hell yes thy are in the red. Now, I'm not saying add more reserved. Just pointing out we are big time in the red on women's hoops.

Isn't that true of all women's sports at just about every (maybe every) school in the country?
03-04-2018, 08:37 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

We are going to lose 4 million on women's hoops. Just what it is. Now I'm willing to take the loss, and ling as we win. I'm good

This sounds like some fancy book work by our athletic department if true. Women average more fans and have to be one of the best draws on tv for wbb so it makes no sense they are losing 4 mill while the men are making money. How?
03-04-2018, 08:45 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

This sounds like some fancy book work by our athletic department if true. Women average more fans and have to be one of the best draws on tv for wbb so it makes no sense they are losing 4 mill while the men are making money. How?

Don?t they practically give tickets away for women games?
03-04-2018, 08:47 PM
Bulldog1

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Don?t they practically give tickets away for women games?

Basically. Like $5 a ticket
03-04-2018, 08:54 PM
IMissJack

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

We are going to lose 4 million on women's hoops. Just what it is. Now I'm willing to take the loss, and ling as we win. I'm good

The problem is that many people around Starkville now choose to go to the women's games because they cannot afford to go to the men's and women's. Women's is cheaper. Nothing wrong with that per se, but it increases the problem because men's crowds go down, thus revenue has suffered.
03-04-2018, 10:17 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Not this year it doesn't

You have no clue what you are talking about.
03-04-2018, 10:22 PM
ScoobaDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

This sounds like some fancy book work by our athletic department if true. Women average more fans and have to be one of the best draws on tv for wbb so it makes no sense they are losing 4 mill while the men are making money. How?

No fancy bookwork needed... tickets for womens games are $5, no BC donation required. Tickets for mens games make A LOT more money because the tickets are 5-10x the cost and require a BC donation...
03-04-2018, 10:31 PM
Coach34

Every woman's sport is a drain on the SEC budget- women's basketball included
03-04-2018, 10:38 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Every woman's sport is a drain on the SEC budget- women's basketball included

Well that's unfortunate if true and unfortunate you feel that way considering MSU women's basketball is the best thing about our University sports wise right now.
03-04-2018, 11:13 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Well that's unfortunate if true and unfortunate you feel that way considering MSU women's basketball is the best thing about our University sports wise right now.

Im glad they are successful. It means we are losing less money on them now
03-05-2018, 10:38 AM
tcdog70

Women's sports have never made money. They never will. Football is the Cash Cow that funds everything. breaking even with Men's basketball is a good thing, if you can do it. TV money is the key that opens all our doors. If you want the HUMP to be rocking again quit putting all the games on TV and win. that is 2 big keys. why do you think Pro Football used to black out home games that were not sell outs.
03-05-2018, 01:40 PM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Well that's unfortunate if true and unfortunate you feel that way considering MSU women's basketball is the best thing about our University sports wise right now.

I don?t quite understand one particular part of your post. And this isn?t specific to you, it?s an observation of our current society.

C34 stated that women?s sports are a drain on the funding. If you can refute this with facts please do, because the books back up his statement. So therefore C34 simply restated something that should be a known truth. Yet you respond that he feels a certain way? Because he states a fact?

Hell most men?s sports lose money in collegiate athletics. These are all facts, not feelings. So why respond that you are sad that he feels this way about women?s basketball? He said nothing that even included an emotional.

I see this everywhere on twitter and such. If a truth goes against what one hopes or wishes of how something should be, they attempt to attach an emotion to it, in order to alter the truth.
03-05-2018, 02:04 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

I don?t quite understand one particular part of your post. And this isn?t specific to you, it?s an observation of our current society.

C34 stated that women?s sports are a drain on the funding. If you can refute this with facts please do, because the books back up his statement. So therefore C34 simply restated something that should be a known truth. Yet you respond that he feels a certain way? Because he states a fact?

Hell most men?s sports lose money in collegiate athletics. These are all facts, not feelings. So why respond that you are sad that he feels this way about women?s basketball? He said nothing that even included an emotional.

I see this everywhere on twitter and such. If a truth goes against what one hopes or wishes of how something should be, they attempt to attach an emotion to it, in order to alter the truth.

join the political board already C34 and I have over a decade of posting history with each other
03-05-2018, 02:58 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

This is pretty much spot on. Our attendance problem is self inflicted by our athletic department's failure to correct their mistakes.

So when college kids leave football games early because we are getting skull drug or when they don't show up for an 11 am kick off when it is 90 degrees it is the Millennial jerk kids fault. When adults and older fans don't show up to basketball games that matter it is the Administration's fault. Got it.
03-05-2018, 03:15 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by BB30

So when college kids leave football games early because we are getting skull drug or when they don't show up for an 11 am kick off when it is 90 degrees it is the Millennial jerk kids fault. When adults and older fans don't show up to basketball games that matter it is the Administration's fault. Got it.

Administration keeps selling season tickets to people that don't show up instead of focusing on selling them to people that'll make 80% of the games and live within 30 minutes of the Hump. Administration split up the students and alienated all the fans that were buying season tickets for years. So yes it is the administrations fault for not correcting their errors
03-05-2018, 03:31 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Women's sports have never made money. They never will. Football is the Cash Cow that funds everything. breaking even with Men's basketball is a good thing, if you can do it. TV money is the key that opens all our doors. If you want the HUMP to be rocking again quit putting all the games on TV and win. that is 2 big keys. why do you think Pro Football used to black out home games that were not sell outs.

Seems like I read an article once that there was only around 2 to 4 women's basketball programs that actually either break even or made a small profit. UT was one and maybe UConn was the other. Baseball is actually pretty similar in profitability. Pretty much football and the NCAA tournament is where the NCAAs make all of their money for the most part.

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