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The walk rate/control is their biggest hurdle to get a call up. I think Wisler was always considered the closest to being ready and has been slated to come up at some point this year if he stayed on his current course.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, I think Wisler is the most likely to join the rotation eventually. I honestly think Folty is a bullpen guy (though I would love to be wrong on that), and Banuelos is intriguing but I don't think his ceiling is quite as high.
Bc banuelos doesn't have as high a ceiling, he might be the perfect guy to call up. Save team contol over folty, wisler, and Jenkins till we're a better teamQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Could peraza be traded to Yankees?
http://nypost.com/2015/04/16/look-ou...s-2b-prospect/
I think it will take a little longer to know for sure on Banuelos. He is just a little over a year pitching again after TJ so by the middle of the summer we should get a clearer idea of what he is. Before the injury he was looking like a #3 type starter as his ceiling and he had lowered his walk rate at the time. With the exception of the walk rate, all of his numbers right now are similar to right before his injury. Although it's still to early in the season to make a determination. I think the organization still thinks he can be at least a back end of the rotation guy or a very good reliever.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I think with Folty, at age 23 you still work him like you expect him to be a starter by 2017 at least. His upside and swing and miss numbers makes his potential to great. Now you can bring him up for pen duty to get use to MLB but it's too soon to give up on him as a starter. Potentional top of the rotation guy that you can live with a little high walk rate because his K rate compensates for it. Not at the current number obviously.
Good point. It depends partially on when guys are ready. If Wisler is ready by midseason, I'd go ahead and call him up. 2017 is the year everyone's pointing toward, but the organization wants to at least compete next year as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
No, thanks. This seems like it is written purely from the Yankees' standpoint. I can't imagine we're actually interested. They would have to give us a ton back.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Braves officials say that this is a complete fabrication.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Wisler doesn't have a high ceiling either. don't let the higher ranking fool you. and he's probably further along in development, so it's probably him come June.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I've got to kind of disagree with you a little. First off being consider a #3 type of starter as your ceiling is a pretty high ceiling. Yes top of the rotation guys have the highest ceilings but the number of pitchers that have become very good #1 & 2's for a long time in the league with just a #3 ceiling is too numerous to count. They both have a very high ceiling. Now in comparing the two, before injury Banuelos was consider a #3 ceing type while Wisler is consider a very solid #3 type or even a low end #2 starter by some. So they were close but now after injury Wisler is definitely considered having the higher upside. He has a plus change and above average fastball and curve with good control. It's just a matter of time for Wisler.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Here's some more minor leaguers' stats...
Jenkins: 1.2 ip 0.00 era 4 h 0 k 2 bb
Peraza: .214 avg .267 obp 0 rbi 1 sb
Davidson: .143 avg .400 obp 1 hr 1 rbi
Mallex smith: .188 avg .300 obp 1 rbi 2 sb
Sims: 6.0 ip 3.00 era 2 h 4 k 2 bb
Ruiz: .222 avg .300 obp 1 rbi
Really wanna see more out of this group. Really like Jenkins, peraza, and Ruiz. We need Davidson to start taking off. We really have no corner OF prospects besides Davidson
Few of our guys in this minor league top performers...
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp..._milb&sid=milb
it's a high ceiling for a typical prospect, not one in AAA that's ready to be called up that's rated in the Top 100. a few rate him a #2, but those have his tools rated much higher than the aggregate. a few have him as barely a #4. the difference will be his ability to retire lefties. his slider/curve doesn't move in a way that is effective against them, and his changeup is not consistent enough yet to use against them. so MLB lefties will be sitting on his fastball. i think you know what happens when that happens. he's not getting minor league lefties out even. but if he can find a pitch to use to keep lefties off his fastball, then he probably projects as a #2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Of course different views are going to rate him higher or lower. But the average is he is a solid #3 guy. That's a pretty high ceiling for any player. And it's higher than Banuelos while he is only age 22. He is the most ready of the three.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Now I agree he has work to do against lefties. But if he gets the average to his AA number of .261 that is more than adequate for MLB. But he has to get it down from the AAA numbers. Work on that in AAA for half the year, work out of the pen maybe even spot start late this year. Considering his age and the fact he has not had really any bumps moving up at each level I like the possibility of him being at least a good back end guy. If you get him and Floty hitting close to their ceiling, man that has the makings of a really great rotation. Heck if just one of the new guys hit then the rotation is looking really good for a while.
I think Jenkins could be the best of the group eventually
He definitely could, just going to be a while before we know for sure while he goes through the levels. Excited to see him myself this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Win @ Toronto in ninth to go to 7-3. Now 4-0 away. Couldn't ask for a better start.
Really couldn't. A series win this weekend would be impressive for this team. Got wood and miller to get it doneQuote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
The projections on prospect's ceilings are always strange. Unless you're a truly elite guy, like a Trout or a Strasburg, most will give you a ceiling of 'solid regular' or '#3 starter'. None of it really makes sense, especially since what constitutes a #3 starter varies.
How many #1's are there? #2's? Wiser has great potential and can be very, very good if he realizes it. That's all I need to know. Will he strike out 200+? Probably not. Will he go out and put up an ERA around 3 or below consistently in the majors? Nobody can tell me there's no chance of him doing that.
Tough loss yesterday.
Jim Johnson is really struggling against the jays. Hopefully he can rebound against the mets.
Markakis is on fire.
FF is really hitting for power this year. In fact, the Braves are hitting for power. 2nd in NL in hr's
Need miller to start going deeper in games starting today.
Very impressed with the start. Hopefully we can win the series against jays today