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12-07-2025, 02:17 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Show me the OL that made him fumble the ball or made him the all time leader in pick 6s in school history

Well just maybe if the RT could have at least slowed down the DE it wouldnt have been a fumble. Let's make sure and remember even our freshman phenom was sacked 3 times in the Egg and Tenn's DL was alot better at getting to the QB than Mississippi's
12-07-2025, 02:40 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That's just a rewriting of history. Plenty of posters were expecting 5, 6, 7, etc., wins.

And (I can't believe I have to say this again) you have to change your expectations when you learn more about the opponents. If we'd known that Florida, Texas, Missouri, Arizona State, Arkansas, and Tennessee would all be significantly worse than their preseason expectations, we all would have picked more wins.

This is insane. EVERYONE here said 6-6 would be a great year and 7-5 would be coach of the year territory with 5 wins being a decent year. And of the 6 teams you listed we beat 2, took 2 to OT, and lost 1 on a last second play so what even is your point
12-07-2025, 03:38 PM
War Machine Dawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

What a delusional thing to say. Nobody I talk to in real life is remotely "optimistic." Social media replies and comments are almost entirely negative. Every MSU board except this one is 80% or more "Fire Lebby."

Outside our program, nobody thinks he's doing a good job either. Try asking about him on CFB reddit - no one is impressed.

Everyone understands this. Everyone is extremely aware that we have less money than the rest of the SEC and probably will. That's why it's so important to have a coach whose strong suit is in-game coaching. Unfortunately, we have the opposite of that. A good gameday coach would have won 7 or 8 games this year even with our $15M roster.

If Lebby had done that, there really would be optimism and positive vibes all around the program.

Nailed it. 💯
12-07-2025, 05:17 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Well just maybe if the RT could have at least slowed down the DE it wouldnt have been a fumble. Let's make sure and remember even our freshman phenom was sacked 3 times in the Egg and Tenn's DL was alot better at getting to the QB than Mississippi's

Yeah and he didnt fumble it or throw a pick 6. Point exactly
12-07-2025, 05:18 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

This is insane. EVERYONE here said 6-6 would be a great year and 7-5 would be coach of the year territory with 5 wins being a decent year. And of the 6 teams you listed we beat 2, took 2 to OT, and lost 1 on a last second play so what even is your point

I don't understand why this concept is so alien to people. Regardless of what you thought at the beginning of the year, if you thought 4-8 would be great, 5-7, 6-6, 8-4, whatever, any threshold to be a "great" year has to be adjusted once you learn that the schedule wasn't nearly as hard as most people thought it would be.

I, like MANY people, thought that 6-6 would be decent, and 5-7 was a minimum to keep his job, but if I'd known the schedule was weaker than I thought, I would have said 7-5 was decent, 6-6 minimum, and 8-4 to be a good season.
12-07-2025, 05:24 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Yeah and he didnt fumble it or throw a pick 6. Point exactly

You act as if a pick 6 is all on the QB. LOl.. BTW.. KT threw an INT. He gets sacked on average with Shapen. He passed for a whopping 48%...
12-07-2025, 05:24 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I don't understand why this concept is so alien to people. Regardless of what you thought at the beginning of the year, if you thought 4-8 would be great, 5-7, 6-6, 8-4, whatever, any threshold to be a "great" year has to be adjusted once you learn that the schedule wasn't nearly as hard as most people thought it would be.

I, like MANY people, thought that 6-6 would be decent, and 5-7 was a minimum to keep his job, but if I'd known the schedule was weaker than I thought, I would have said 7-5 was decent, 6-6 minimum, and 8-4 to be a good season.

Our current SOS now that the season is over is 13. Idk where this notion came from we played an easy schedule. Everyone knew Arkansas and UF were shaky going into the year. USM, Ole Miss, and A&M were all better than expected. The only team you can really argue is Texas and they still were a 9-3 team
12-07-2025, 05:26 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Our current SOS now that the season is over is 13. Idk where this notion came from we played an easy schedule. Everyone knew Arkansas and UF were shaky going into the year. USM and A&M were both better than expected. The only team you can really argue is Texas and they still were a 9-3 team

No one said we have an "easy" schedule. I said that the predictions of 3-9, 4-8, etc., were based on the idea that Florida, Tennessee, Arizona State, and Missouri were going to be ranked teams and Arkansas would at least be a bowl team. Everyone would have added a win or 2 to their predictions if they had known that they would all underperform.

No one would have changed their predictions over A&M because no one expected us to win anyway. No one would have changed their predictions over Southern Miss because everyone still knew we would win.
12-07-2025, 09:53 PM
Cowbeller

Dont worry guys. My parlay hit today and we should see results come portal time
12-07-2025, 10:13 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

It absolutely matters who your coach is. Good players have overcome bad coaching sometimes, but you're still seeing good coaches outperform their talent level and bad coaches underperform over the course of seasons and longer.

A&M has spent more money than anyone on everything. They've won one championship. In 1939. Money is not the end all be all.
12-07-2025, 10:19 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I don't understand those of you citing our #35 NIL ranking as if that's not just proving C34s point.

#35 means there's roughly 34 teams in CFB with a more talented roster. It means never even being top 25 either in the rankings or in actual play. It means being at a talent disadvantage in 8/9 SEC games, and a massive one at that for at least 5 of them. #35 in NIL means we can't hold onto the under the radar talent we do find (see the 3 WRs and 1 QB we had to face that transferred from us to other SEC schools). Would Dak have been here in 2015 if Florida offered him $3.5m in NIL? Would Montez Sweat have returned for his Sr year if Bama offered him 700k? You can't be a developmental program if you can't pay them enough to stay once they break out. All you can do is hope to out scout the other teas, and get under the radar Portal transfers every year.... but good luck doing that year after year when other SEC schools also have 5x our recruiting budget.

No, being #35 in NIL in a conference where everyone else spends more means 6-6 is the best we can expect to average over time, and 8-4 the absolute ceiling for any particular season. 5-7 will be what a league average coaching staff achieves, and by the way we spend less on that than everyone else does too.

There's not much mystery left in college football. No dark corners for good players to go under the radar from big schools, no unknown schemes that could give our coach a large advantage. No loyalty that There's been too much money in this for too long- it's now about MONEY to buy the best. Why I've lost almost all interest in the sport.

PS, "we were 2 plays away from 7-5!" isn't really a fair comment since we were also 2 plays away from 3-9- ASU took a miracle pass because their DC called a dumb blitz, and Arky was down the wire. 5-7 is record that accurately reflects our season; we were not a 7-5 team that just got unusually unlucky.

You're assuming there is a one to one correlation between spending and performance. There is not.
12-07-2025, 10:21 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Our current SOS now that the season is over is 13. Idk where this notion came from we played an easy schedule. Everyone knew Arkansas and UF were shaky going into the year. USM, Ole Miss, and A&M were all better than expected. The only team you can really argue is Texas and they still were a 9-3 team

No one can rationally argue we played an easy schedule. I can't even remember the last time we had what anyone would call an easy schedule.
12-07-2025, 10:38 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Will rogers fumbled on the foot line vs ole miss (the last time we beat them) and it was totally 100000 percent on him

Omg. Totally different. He wasn't knock cold from the blind side. Nor was he when he funlems earlier in the game. Some fumbles are on the qb. Some are on the OL. We had more than our fair share this year that were on the OLine. But glad to see you admit Will did something wrong 3 years later.
12-07-2025, 10:40 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Nailed it. ��

80 percent or more say fire Lebby? Wow. That's some scientific shit there. But if true proves how damn stupid our fan base is.
12-07-2025, 10:41 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Yeah and he didnt fumble it or throw a pick 6. Point exactly

But we only scored 19 pts. Is t that the name of the game and the qb's job?? Score points ??
12-07-2025, 10:50 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

But we only scored 19 pts. Is t that the name of the game and the qb's job?? Score points ??

How many did Shapen score for our opponents? More than any other QB in the history of our school. Lebby hitched his wagon to that. The only time it paid off was vs an Arkansas team that was the only one worse than us. Dude was awful in lebbys signature win too, just got bailed out by their DB tripping and falling. He missed just as many deep balls to Thompson as he hit. The Florida game would be over at half if it wasnt for Blake Lebby
12-07-2025, 11:10 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by Rawdawg

Indiana signed a high 4 star qb transfer who is the odds on favorite to win the Heisman.

Isn't Kromenhoek a 5-Star?

Ole Miss snagged a Ferris State Guy, Vandy has a New Mexico guy, Tennessee was good with a City College of San Francisco guy. Auburn "beat" MSU for Jackson Arnold, turned out to be garbage. LSU snagged MSU's freshman QB, Kiffin is cutting that dude by reflex in Spring. LK's entire reputation is on-the-hook in 2025.

MSU is not that far behind, got to get the right dude. Compare Blake Shapen and Bryce Underwood too laugh. Imagine Shapen with an elite OL, like Underwood has.

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