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We are luckily getting a lot of credit for barely making it last year with the same roster. Bracketologists see that and just assume we will figure it out and get in. If we had not made it last year I think at this point most would have us outside looking in.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You think that's what they're doing instead of looking at our solid net, BPI, rpi, and kenpom?Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. Every metric out there has us a likely NCAA Tournament team.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
I think people are just getting confused by how shitty we look when we play shitty. Some of that is selective memory. Good basketball teams have inexplicably shitty games every year. Some of it is we really do seem to have a bigger drop off than most teams when we play shitty. Usually that's going to be a sign of poor coaching or poor attitudes. Sometimes it's just the way a team is built and being really dependent on one thing (like making 3's) that it just derails the team when it's not working that night. I honestly don't know what this team's deal is. Last year we seemed to show up and play D almost every game. We played like shit sometimes because we just couldn't hit the broad side of a barn shooting, but seemed to still play D and work the offense even when the shooting didn't give us a real chance. Seems like this year we just lose intensity when things don't go well. Or maybe just don't have intensity so things don't go well. Just odd to have so many returning players and seem to take a step back on something that seems like a character issue. Maybe last year everybody was just excited to have good coaching and responded really well, and now are letting off some and not responding to Jans requirements' as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Personally I think shitty is "not even going to make the NIT." Rick Ray's teams were shitty. After the first 2 years, none of Howland's teams were shitty, and definitely neither of Jans's NCAA teams.
Maybe we're just too strict on ourselves.
This team is not bad at all, they just are too flawed to be SEC championship contenders. We have beaten two legit contenders and likely should have beaten Bama in Starkville too. but we lack the consistency that the top teams have.
This team has all the makings of a Top 30-40 team that on its best day can beat almost anyone and on its worst day can get whooped or take a bad loss.
We have taken our lumps against a hard schedule and now it is time to take care of business in games we will be favored in.
And two top 10 wins... smh.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Um noQuote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
This!Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
We do not have much wiggle room anymore and have to win these upcoming games, but yes, we are 100% a tourney team if the season ended today.
Look I am all for this team and have been but we have been disappointing overall. Our net is ok, nothing great. We are 3-6 in conference right there next to Ark, Vandy and Mizzou and cannot win on the road. We have 2 good wins but also 2 terrible losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I definitely think making it last year with same returning roster plays a factor. When before the season experts already had us penciled in it carries weight for sure.
Look at Florida. Better overall record, conference record, NET, RPI, KenPom, beat us head to head and we are in ahead of them. Difference? We made it in last year.
Florida has 1 Q1 win. We have 3
This is last year's team, except for Hubbard failing in our lap and now DJ (who is now injured) is out. Jan's recruiting last year and portal evaluations and signees did nothing to improve this team from last year. Taylor, a poor fit and gone. Jimmy Bell, a beast in OOC games. Little help in SEC play. DJ's minutes will probably go to a walk on. Fort not a difference maker. Murphy in doghouse and will probably hit portal at season's end and can't say I blame him. Tolu's game has been figured out by opposing SEC coaches. Jans has to prove he can recruit and find an offensive identity next year. Today's game is not defense first or you don't play. Players want to score & play in an exciting offense. This team is again what it is. Late seed for NCAA Tourney and one and done. They are very hard to watch and get excited about at times for even two games in a row. We will be there for the GA game. Worried as our mediocre roster now has injuries.
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Q1/Q2 record: FLA 4-7 MSU 5-7Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You just disregarded every other metric that you used for us being in. I am not bashing this team just stating my opinion and backing it up with examples.
I put $750 on us to go 9-9 in conference. Thought that was easy money. Have been high on this team all year and we can beat anybody. Does not mean we have not been disappointing.
Our resumes are very similar, but we have 2 top 10 net wins. They don't have that. Our high end wins are very pretty on a tourney resumeQuote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
You're probably going to win that bet. Congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
#44 still.
We picked up a Q2 win with Rutgers now at #100 .
Big games today...
Georgia (#88) at us (-8.5)
North Texas (#86, -4.5) at Tulsa (#177)
Nebraska (#52) at NW (#60, -5.5)
And we lost to #197 at home. Can't believe we lost that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That game is single-handedly putting us on the bubble. We would probably be a 7 or 8 seed without that loss to date since we have those UT and Auburn wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200