The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I know you're going to say that you're just posting statistics. Do you have any positive statistics?

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I don't think I've seen any he's posted.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Whether you guys are ready or not, Mississippi is wide ass open. I feel like an alien when I walk in a store wearing my mask right now. It?s elbow to elbow full of people and they ain?t doing shit to prevent it. Our State is full of either dumbasses or geniuses.

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Or indestructible rednecks. And I can say that as an indestructible redneck.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

The bold part isn't true AT ALL! the point of staying at home is to reduce the rate of spread. My going to a restaurant doesn't make the UPS driver or Walmart cashier safer- in fact, our going out like normal makes them LESS SAFE because now there's more sick people they might come in contact with.

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The point is that you and I can?t isolate and continue to live our comfy lives without hundreds of factory workers, distributors, delivery people, etc. NOT isolating. Do really not appreciate that fact?

This isolation stuff, getting more things delivered to prevent my family’s exposure, absolutely feels selfish to me.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Actual doctor on bill maher. Doctor treated Covid patients in NJ area.

https://youtu.be/Lze-rMYLf2E

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I like that doc. He makes sense. Something he said is what I've been thinking too which is most of the people testing negative aren't negative, they're positive but the tests aren't accurate. Which would lower the death rate a lot.

Example in this thread is defiantdog. If I recall correctly they wouldn't test him and he felt like he was practically dying from it. So in most states they're testing people with worse symptoms than he had and those are negative??

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Originally Posted by turkish

The point is that you and I can?t isolate and continue to live our comfy lives without thousands of factory workers, distributors, delivery people, etc. NOT isolating. Do really not appreciate that fact?

This isolation stuff, getting more things delivered to prevent my family’s exposure, absolutely feels selfish to me.

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FIFY.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

The bold part isn't true AT ALL! the point of staying at home is to reduce the rate of spread. My going to a restaurant doesn't make the UPS driver or Walmart cashier safer- in fact, our going out like normal makes them LESS SAFE because now there's more sick people they might come in contact with.

Your entire post is based on selfishness, but that's missing the mark entirely.

And as far as the economy, reopening the economy will only help a little bit because the vast majority of people will be scared to actually resume normal activities. Especially as the infection rate spikes again and people get even more scared of catching it. Moreover, many of us will still try to save our money and build the emergency fund up even if we aren't afraid of Covid, just because we don't know what the future holds.




Had to draw attention to this extra dumb part. COVID ISN'T THE FLU!!! I can't believe people are still implying it should be treated like a new strand of flu. Absolutely ridiculous to still do that at this point. When was the last time the flu overwhelmed a major nations healthcare system like Covid did to Italy? When was the last time the flu overwhelmed NYC's hospitals? Let this thing spread in less affected areas like MS and you'd see the same results here. We're lucky it didn't hit the south bad before Gov't closed things down

The reality is this is a medically induced event that's causing a massive economic problem. But the solution is to deal with the medical problem, not pretend there isn't one.

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While the medical problem is big. The economic problem will be bigger by 100 fold. Of course, we can just "let the govt pay for us to sit at home"****

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I know you're going to say that you're just posting statistics. Do you have any positive statistics?

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No

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Whether you guys are ready or not, Mississippi is wide ass open. I feel like an alien when I walk in a store wearing my mask right now. It?s elbow to elbow full of people and they ain?t doing shit to prevent it. Our State is full of either dumbasses or geniuses.

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It's not wide ass open. Why are you there?? But glad you have a mask!!*

If you're a high risk person, avoid the public as much as possible. If you're not, get your ass to work and enjoy life.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

If you're a high risk person, avoid the public as much as possible. If you're not, get your ass to work and enjoy life.

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This.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

This.

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That's what it's going to have to come to sooner than later. That, wear a mask, Sue China.

It's telling when you hear about China trying to cover things up, opening up their economy, and buying up places and companies all over the world right now, including companies in the US.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

If you're a high risk person, avoid the public as much as possible. If you're not, get your ass to work and enjoy life.

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I feel the same way. If the government makes me wear a mask- I won't be happy about it but I'll do it. It feels to me like things are getting better where I live and that our numbers are going down but at the same time the hospital where I work seems to be getting more and more restrictive and things seem to be getting more and more restrictive. Like now my hospital is making us wear these "special masks" in non-COVID areas and we're going to get a stern talking to if we're not wearing the mask from our car to inside the hospital and then back to our car when we leave work. I'm pretty much over it.

But I think that's where things are headed- we're slowly going to start opening things up but you have to wear a mask everywhere until Dr. Fauci says it's OK not to.

Sorry for the rant but it's getting to the point where it's becoming more detrimental and harmful to keep sheltering in place.

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Originally Posted by Dawgcap

But yet you say you go out and make those people less safe. It?s only good for you when it?s convenient for you

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I'm an essential worker in the energy sector- the only places I go are to work and walmart and to my in laws house to do yardwork for them

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I'm an essential worker in the energy sector- the only places I go are to work and walmart and to my in laws house to do yardwork for them

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Since you're not being selfish, what kind of financial sacrifice are you making to share the pain with those you don't want to be allowed to work? Surely at least 20% on top of normal giving? I mean, this is a pandemic and we need to make sacrifices for each other. Or does your sacrifice basically stop at continuing to get paid and go to walmart but not go to happy hour?

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Trump's heart isn't in the right place unless you think the witness's were off by a factor of 10,000. Why is it good that he's focused on only saving people in america and not the world.

If you haven't figured it out by now, you should realize the whole point is that you're not actually practicing good faith or religion. Stop hiding behind the veil of christianity to make yourself sound superior. You're just selfish. Pharisee.

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Because he is not President of the world. He is the President of the USA ONLY!!! You global government guys are a joke. Read the Bible on how global government stuff turns out!!! You won't like the outcome.

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Originally Posted by TheLostDawg

That's what it's going to have to come to sooner than later. That, wear a mask, Sue China.

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Crime rate will sky rocket if they try to make us wear mask. American just are not going to do it and the goverment knows it. Example I went into Rameys two weeks ago and they made me put on gloves. They provided the gloves. I went back last week and the gloves were optional. I wonder what changed? Hell I know people said they would not go back if they have to wear gloves. I suspect mask will be suggested but not required.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I know you're going to say that you're just posting statistics. Do you have any positive statistics?

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I thought y'all were the sunshine pumpers. Y'all beat me to the positive stats every time.*

Edit: For the record, I've posted positive statistics before. It just so happens that there aren't too many to pluck from at this point in time.

I posted that total tests had been increasing the other day. The curve is flat. Norway is doing good. Etc.

Here's another one:

Yesterday was the lowest reported deaths in the US since March

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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The doctor in the bill Maher video I posted link to said 98-99% of the cases are mild, and many never even know they have it. He volunteered in one of the hardest hit areas (NJ) in the country

So how long do we have to wait and draw conclusions on Georgia's reopening?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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Wow! That's great. Where did you get the test?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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Did anybody close to you have any cold or flu type illness that you can remember in the last couple of months?

I am assuming we have not had it because I think we would have seen it spread through our social circle and some of them would have been symptomatic, but if a high percentage of kids is asymptomatic and more like 80% than 50% of healthy people are asymptomatic, then it would I guess be possible.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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Which is why the numbers being posted are false. And honestly..... it sucks this came out during allergy season. Everyone is going to think they're having symptoms.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So how long do we have to wait and draw conclusions on Georgia's reopening?

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I would say possibly 3-4 weeks.

My cousin works for the company featured in this article - https://fortune.com/2020/04/24/coron...eopen-economy/
They are predicting hotspots for states ready to reopen.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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Did whoever did your antibody test do their own validation of the test? I've talked to a couple of hospital adminsitrators and they are basically doing their own study on the test with employees that have tested positive and those that tested negative to get an idea of the upper bound of the false positive rate.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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When did you get tested? And just curious ... what's your blood type?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Or indestructible rednecks. And I can say that as an indestructible redneck.

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I hear ya man! I hope I still fall into that category. I know I did when I was younger. I think alcohol may help fight this off too.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So how long do we have to wait and draw conclusions on Georgia's reopening?

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Until there is enough time to come up with some graphs and stats for fear-mongering.**

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Until there is enough time to come up with some graphs and stats for fear-mongering.**

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lol Rep Given!

This is based only on my experience with this virus at my clinic and the patient population I have seen, so it is not a representation of the entire population. I’ve had around 10 total positive cases over the past month. The worst patient with it that I have seen had symptoms consistent with a bad case of influenza. I saw one guy to release him to go back to work who had one day of fever and no other symptoms that had a positive test. I had two that I thought might have it that had bilateral pneumonia and were hypoxic that I had admitted to the hospital. Turns out, both of them tested negative for the virus.

With the heat Georgia's governor caught for opening up, it'll be interesting watching the number of tests administered. Seems he and his critics would like to "cook" the numbers some to make their stance look better.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, I tested positive for having Coronavirus antibodies so I apparently had it and was asymptomatic. Thankfully.

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Michael Osterholm said just yesterday that way too many of the tests are producing false positives, so you might still want to be careful unless you?ve got high confidence in the test that was used. Regardless, glad you?re doing well.

I got the test at the hospital where I work. They're testing all of us. I work with COVID patients some and some of my friends have gotten COVID too. My blood type is O-. I got tested today and we get the results back in an hour. I'm honestly not sure about the validation but I assume we are. I'm in good health exercise a lot despite posting on here often and thankfully I wasn't symptomatic.

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Originally Posted by Joebob

Michael Osterholm said just yesterday that way too many of the tests are producing false positives, so you might still want to be careful unless you?ve got high confidence in the test that was used. Regardless, glad you?re doing well.

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The antibody tests?

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Until there is enough time to come up with some graphs and stats for fear-mongering.**

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I think it will be proven to be a genius move. Red states are going to thrive and the blue states will linger behind. All that nose rubbing they threw at red states is going to end up being bad karma on thier part. They are the ones begging for money from the Federal goverment.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I think it will be proven to be a genius move. Red states are going to thrive and the blue states will linger behind. All that nose rubbing they threw at red states is going to end up being bad karma on thier part. They are the ones begging for money from the Federal goverment.

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Seems to me that everyone is lined up for free money....not just blue states. Of course that "free" money just adds to the debt which it appears neither political party has any interest in reducing.

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Originally Posted by AROB44

Seems to me that everyone is lined up for free money....not just blue states.

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Huh?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So how long do we have to wait and draw conclusions on Georgia's reopening?

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Zero days. Cause we already know what is going to happen. People will go out and about. They will go to work. At some point, they will contract the virus. A large percentage will not even know they have it. They will continue to infect people over the course of 10-20 days, including old people and immune compromised people. They may or may not ever show symptoms themselves. People they know are going to get sick, some will die. No one will be at fault, and the same time, all of us will be at fault.

That is the worst part of this virus. Its slow development and the unknowing. At least with other viruses you know really quickly within a day or two whether you have it. H1N1 and Ebola both present themselves very quickly and you can trace it. This one you cannot.

So, trust me, I understand the need to get back to work for the overall economy. I get it. As a country we will just have to make a choice. Economy or protecting older folks. It really is that simple.
If you want to open everything back up, you should have been screaming for mass nationwide testing 2 months ago. Or start now, so 2 months from now we can do it much safer.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I think it will be proven to be a genius move. Red states are going to thrive and the blue states will linger behind. All that nose rubbing they threw at red states is going to end up being bad karma on thier part. They are the ones begging for money from the Federal goverment.

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Everyone is looking for emergency money. Red Blue, purple it doesn't matter. If you have employees that need to make their mortgage payments and cannot work, you do what you have to do.
Red states do have two advantages. 1st, they are way less populated than blue states. 2nd, they have contact with less people per day than average blue states. That is it. It has nothing to do with your political leanings or your outlook on the constituation. So they should be relatively safer than the traditional high density areas of the country.

Edited to remove a personal attack.