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We will see, but I just don't see the Braves being a major player for any of the major free agents this year , pitchers included. I think next year's free agency is a lot stronger in bats and we could see a move then. If you move maybin, that leaves a gaping hole in the outfield and I don't see the Braves giving him up unless it's for an immediate can't miss top prospect.
Gonna be another interesting offseason. Fwiw, I like and wanna keep Maybin unless Mallex somehow wins the cf job in STQuote:
Originally Posted by trob115
Allard debut...
1.0 ip 0 h 0 bb 0 er 3 k
Not bad
Peraza debut with Dodgers at 2b...
1-4, 3b
Hope we don't regret this trade
Teheran seems to be back... Great sign.
Olivera and FF are both on assignments. Should see both in a week or so. I'm excited about seeing Olivera.
Still wanna see our young starters start pitching better. Perez had a nice start this week, but that's it lately. Hopefull they're bout to turn the corner.
Ready to see what we do with Garcia when Olivera comes up. I'd send him down and let him play 3b, 1b, and LF in AAA. If he can handle LF and 1b defensively, he could be a nice utility guy next season. Love his bat
Teheran looked great last night. He looked like he did back in 2013 and 2014 when he was an All Star. If he keeps pitching like that, he's clearly a #1 or #2 in the rotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Matt Wisler is at about 57 major league innings. Teams have film on him now, and he needs to adjust to what they are doing. He's a very young pitcher, so that process will not be an overnight thing. Tom Glavine and John Smoltz weren't HOF pitchers at 23.
Mike Foltynewicz is the guy I want to see progress the rest of the way. He has John Smoltz type stuff, and like a young Smoltz, command and emotions can get the best of him. Overall, I think he has the best stuff of anyone on the staff. With that said, he could figure in as a starter or back end of the bullpen guy going forward.
Alex Wood has a 5+ ERA since the trade. Jim Johnson's ERA is like 29 right now after the trade. Peraza's triple was a bloop single that Bryce Harper misplayed. It shouldn't be scored a triple, but that's the threat his speed gives you. He didn't have a position with the Braves though. The Braves felt he was very much sub par defensively at 2B. He's a good contact hitter whose speed is valuable, but Mallex Smith is an 80 speed guy who has better skill at getting on base. Behind him, Ozhaino Albies also has shown better awareness of the strike zone at the plate at a young age.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If Olivera plays the way the Braves scouts believe he will, the Braves will not regret this trade. Wood was the one I didn't want to lose, but I do wonder if there is some Tommy Hanson there with him in that his delivery may lead to arm problems at a young age.
Wood hasn't been great for the Dodgers, but it's way early. I think wood will pitch well down the stretch. If we're using small samples, Olivera hasn't got a hit at the lowest level of the minors yet. HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I wasn't necessarily against trading wood and peraza. I just hope Olivera is worth them. His age and injury issues are a huge concern of mine
I've never heard peraza described as sub par defensively. He has always been described as above average at SS.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
If the plan was to trade peraza, we should've played him at ss in AAA. Maximize his trade valueQuote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
I understand folty is still somewhat young, but geez. Consider me not a fan and not very hopeful about his future. Heard someone call him the white Juan Jamie and I'm starting to agree
I think his future is in the bullpen, not the rotation. He's pretty good for 1-3 innings, but then he gets shelled. First and foremost he's gotta get the control issues fixed, but it seems like he might need to add a pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He had a few really good starts early in the year in which he pitched efficiently and was in control through 7 innings or so. I agree that he's got work to do if he wants to stick in a rotation, but his potential is still too high to throw in the pen just yet. He's shown flashes, so I'd let him start next year, either in MLB or AAA, and see if he can fix some of his issues. Even if not, though, we probably have a really good setup man or potential closer.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
the plan had been for him to take over at 2B, so that's where he was playing. he started playing SS again in a week or two before he was traded, and got some time in CF before that, both after Jace had taken over at 2B.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
@mlbbowmanQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
Dating back to the Papelbon trade (July 28):
Phillies 9-9, 3.22 bullpen ERA, 7/7 save ops
Nationals 6-14, 5.03 bullpen ERA, 2/4 save ops
Braves down 9-0 to the Padres in the 8th. Melvin Upton Jr. has 2 homers and 5 RBIs. Fun times...
What we need to do is extend fredi again and trade Teheran and Mallex smith for another 30+ year old position player... Maybe Andre ethier**Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaver
@mlbbowman
The #Braves have now lost 17 of their past 19 road games. They have gone 9-7 at home during this same span.
We're starting 4-5 position players (AJ, Bourn, markakis, swisher, Garcia, Gomes) that are 30 or older with Maybin knocking on the door. You would think all these veterans would help us win some road games. We're just old and suck.
AJ continuing to catch everyday is a joke with Bethancourt absolutely slashing at AAA.
I have zero confidence that wisler, folty, or Perez will be a starter long term.
We traded away a young lh starter and a top 50 prospect for another old position player that struggles to stay healthy.
Saying I'm frustrated and doubting what hart is doing is an understatement. Please get here sept 3rd...
Neither of those three young pitchers have even started a full season. You would have pulled Cueto after his first year (4.81 era) if not sooner and put him in the pen. His second year you definitely would have made a change with him. They may not work out but it is extremely common for the first FULL season or TWO of starting (which none of these guys have done yet) to struggle.
Don't you think there is a very good reason Bethancourt is still in AAA? And what does his slash have to do with his troubles catching defensively. AJ hitting is fine so what bringing him up do for you? Showcase his MLB troubles again, including hitting possibly? Sept call ups are close and if we are looking at trading AJ soon then he needs to be hitting right now.
Bourne and Swisher?? you know what that deal was about. And with Fredi out who do you want playing 1st anyway?
We've already stated that AJ won't be traded. We want to extend him. Bethancourt has had 1 passed ball at Gwinnett.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I didn't say I was giving up on those 3 rookie pitchers. I said I have zero confidence they would stick as starters. We can't give up on them. I would demote one or move 1 to bullpen in favor of Jackson though. Jackson has pitched well this year and I'd like to see him get a shot at starting again.
Bethancourt was pulled early last night so hopefully he gets promoted today