I'm not, but to say we are better off settling for a mediocre established head coach rather than taking a chance that we are getting an up and comer when we hire a coordinator is just wrong, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
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I'm not, but to say we are better off settling for a mediocre established head coach rather than taking a chance that we are getting an up and comer when we hire a coordinator is just wrong, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Ok. I can agree with that. I always say just hire who you thinks the best and who wants to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Edit: I do like offensive minded coaches though(and I’m a defensive guy) because that’s what’s exciting and the rules give the offense the advantage these days. Hardly get to see the big hit anymore(brings a tear to my eye) because of targeting rule. Plus offense puts butts in the seats and always gives you a chance to come from behind. I hope Lebby can put the pedal to the metal this year.
Agree. Definitely prefer offensive minded coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Back to recruiting. Happy to get Whitson. Had me worried because once things get delayed it doesn’t seem to bode well for us!! Let’s keep it rolling! Who’s next?
A lot of action in the next 7-10 days. We have a lot of visits set up and are trying to get 5-6 more set. Have to see how things shake out with the playoff games today and tomorrow. I know we have sent some strong feelers out to guys currently on playoff teams. Just as we did with Squirrel White.
I actually am adding perspective. Only one other coach this century put up as bad of a record as Lebby did and he was fired. Expecting some amount of results next year (5 wins or more) is a ****ing low bar to clear. Idc what "situation" he inherited. This is an SEC job and we have a decent amount of money to spend. An average of 3 wins a year doesn't cut it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
If Lebby wins less than 4 next season then maybe you explore it. But to evaluate him solely on this past season is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
We were more competitive offensively in the league as a whole than we have been in a decade. We moved the ball against every opponent we played and the lack of scoring in several games was self inflicted. There was no 3-2 Auburn game or 24-2 Kentucky game.
Add in the fact that we couldn’t have done worse if we had just not lined up a defense at all. To not have a legit 2 deep in modern college football with the welfare money we get from the SEC is criminal.
In the SEC, Mark Stoops and Clark Lea both went 2-10 their first seasons. Lea went 2-10 last year in his 3rd season as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
You tried to get it back on topic, props.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Yea I didn't make a big deal about it but when Lebby told Murray that he was aiming for only 15 +/- portal commits I laughed. No way was that realistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Well and I mean realistically you do not go into that press conference and say ok I am going to lose Craver, Van Buren, Pollock, and we are iffy on Coleman and a couple of others. Had we brought back those pieces we may have been closer to 15. You also do not know what your just strictly depth guys are going to do. Guys like Hinton, Cooper, Harrell, etc. As a coach, you probably know their best bet is stick it out here, but they see differently because they just want to be on the field somewhere and they have representatives telling them that program B is going to value them more than we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
Well we said going in that we needed to completely revamp the DL, we have 7 transfers and we got Burroughs. I would said we have flipped that room and I do not believe we are done.
Finish with Grace and watch out👀Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If that is perspective let me off at the next stop. That kind of perspective is exactly why we are in the middle of this shitshow right now. That thinking is what landed us with possibly the worst athletic director in our mediocre history since Dudy Noble. Thank you no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Do we have any names for the WR and CB targets besides squirrel? That?s the last group right now I feel is far below SEC average. Everything else feels we have gotten to at least average or right below (maybe OL)
WRQuote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Cam Vaughn-Jax State
Markus Allen-Eastern Michigan
Squirrel White-Tennessee
CB
Stephen Hall-Wazzu
Denver Harris-UTSA
Michael Coats Jr-Nevada
Dwight Lewis-Marian
No chance with Mike Matthews?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Center from Colorado just entered the portal. Started 9 games for them. Hank Zilinskas.
I would assume a possible target for us with Loadholt onboard.
He didn't enter the portalQuote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Any chance at Tru Edwards from La Tech?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Not a fan of only being 285lbs, but if he can play he can play.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
https://www.essentiallysports.com/nc...a-usc-clemson/Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Am I missing something? Did he withdraw?
He doesn't have interest in us right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He never reached the portal officially. He was going to enter but changed his mind before hitting the portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Probably not. I have a feeling I know where he is going. He is a Louisiana kid who had a good year. You can kind of connect the dots there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We desperately need a playmaker or 2 at WR. Need a starting OT. A starting cornerback. And need to close the deal on Grace. Everywhere else is fine/decent.
We have a very solid haul already. And the makings to turn it into a great overhaul. Lebby has proven his recruiting prowess over again. It's a double edged sword in my opinion though because the product on the field better reflect it. The question on him is coaching. Can he do that? With the way the two deep is looking - he's got no excuse to be under 5 wins. Schedule be damned.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
He was born in Shreveport but raised in Texas.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
There's no double edged sword at all. You start getting the players, you start winning games. This thread is about portal recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Looking at the transfers out, the way I assess it:
We lost 3 guys to other SEC schools.
Crown jewel of hiring Lebby and his first class was one of them. It's a major negative to have what happened with Van Buren happen. I look at that as strike 2 towards saying he can't do this. (Strike 1 was the Toledo blowout.)
Coleman was a rental and went home. Craver wanted a payday that we didn't have the luxury to spend on. Hate it, but can't hold that against him.
Get some more OL bodies, get another 2 DBs, get another 2 WRs. Then I have optimism for 2025 into 2026. Win 5 games or more next year and 2026 looks exciting not just to fans, but to prospects as well. Don't and it would be strike 3. But up or shut up.
Completely could not disagree more concerning MVB. That's a positive for Lebby with how he handled that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
How are you feeling about Vaughn and Squirrel? I know Vaughn has a visit scheduled around the 6th, and we?ve made a solid offer to Squirrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Van Buren is not a loss in the leastQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
MVB got way to big for his pants and I figure will end up somewhere other than LSU in a year or 2
How can you give Lebby a strike for losing a player he wanted to upgrade (and did on paper at least)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
We were far and away the best offer for Craver. His handlers thought they had more bargaining power than they did with us. He will be in the portal in 11 months once again. His handlers are going to ruin that kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
If Shapen never had a season ended injury, we wouldn?t even have this discussion about MVB
Don't burn the tatersQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
If my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
But continuously crying in the club over a kid who transferred to ride the pine is stupid. He was serviceable at best. BEST. He had flashes and that was all. You don?t pin your hopes on a kid who didn?t perform better than he was expected. If he had come in during the 4th quarter of the egg bowl and won it in OT, while coming off an injury, we wouldn?t be having this conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
Some of y?all are willing to give MVB a pass for looking like sh!t sometimes for playing in tough games, but not willing to give Lebby the same leeway for coaching in the same game.