I understand what you?re saying, but a text telling me ?we couldn?t get him to sign the papers? was coming from a good one. Should?ve never let him get there in the first place but that?s hindsight.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
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I understand what you?re saying, but a text telling me ?we couldn?t get him to sign the papers? was coming from a good one. Should?ve never let him get there in the first place but that?s hindsight.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
And that is where this hurts. Perception. Now if we get the FSU kid, which looks like it is going to happen, we will get a little bit of perception back, but Arnold was perceived as a big fish. Now whether he is or not as a different discussion entirely. I personally think Shapen is better than him Shapen just can’t stay healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawdawg
Question from a non-insider hoping to learn more about how the portal game is played: What was our coaching staff supposed to do to prevent him from taking the visit to Auburn? Or visiting anywhere else?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Do you say come to State as your only visit and sign, or our offer is off the table?
That's one way. The problem is we don't have the stroke to do that as a 2-10 team.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeCannotGo
This isn't amazon. We can't just get whomever we want because we have the money to buy. Guys have to want to come here or be sold on our vision.
Kind of but the main thing is as soon as it popped up you already have the money ready to offer what's needed to cancel that trip. If he wants to go still, then you pivot hard to your other options. Auburn brought Murphy in first, we should have had our other top options ready to fly in ASAP if they still crawfish about committing.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeCannotGo
Yeah you can do that and play hardball, you can pay more than Auburns 25k to visit, you can know AU will up the price so say come here now skip AU and we give you 1.5M instead of 1M, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by HeCannotGo
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
Doesn’t matter and you know it. All we’ve heard is “Arnold is Lebby’s hand picked QB to run his system.” The fans bought it and wanted it. Now they can’t have it and are asked to keep funding but can’t even get what the perceive they wanted. The athletic department at some point has got to deliver on something the fans want. It’s is unreal how much they do not understand this. Getting Arnold would have been a win within the fanbase. Does not matter if we get the FSU kid who is ranked higher and probably a better player. He’s not who the fans were sold on.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
But, if we are balling with Kromenheok next year and look like a real SEC team again no one is gonna think about Jackson Arnold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawdawg
And if he falters at AU it will be even better.
Who told you "Arnold is Lebby's hand picked QB?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawdawg
If your next to last sentence is correct, Y'all can have the perception. I want the better player.
But I think Shapen starts over both.
I like Shapen but his health is a liability.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Um literally every recruiting expert has said Arnold was Lebby’s QB of the future at Oklahoma. And the thing about signing him now was to show the fans the Lebby had a plan all along instead of missing on a guy he had a longtime relationship with. That sell a brighter future than moving to portal plan B. We have got to do a better job of pushing a narrative and then executing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
So. Steve was right...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
He started 13 games in 2022.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
He started 8 in 2023.
Last year was the only season ending injury.
But I agree you need a solid backup just in case.
Preferably one that can hurt you with his legs. A running qb is important to Lebby's system.
Agreed. Shapen needs some milk...lol. whichever Qb is brought in let him and the incoming freshman battle all early and often and be prepared to play. My biggest concern with Shapen is that he'll play trying to protect himself. You can't do that in football. We need to let him talk to Favre or Fitz.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Which recruiting experts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawdawg
No, Auburn was right. I'll give Lebby credit. The fact that he has the FSU Qb scheduled for a visit proves he was aware Arnold was fickle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Can hate Steve all you want. But he's right way more than he is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
One in the same in this situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Yep. And that FSU qb visit was setup well before Arnold's Auburn visit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28