Yea, and pretty sure Trapp was a JUCO. Got 2 extra years of evaluation on him and Hev still couldn't see he wasn't worth a scholarship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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Yea, and pretty sure Trapp was a JUCO. Got 2 extra years of evaluation on him and Hev still couldn't see he wasn't worth a scholarship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
There should be a junior college offensive lineman in the state of Mississippi that is going to be a sophmore or redshirt freshman next year that was fully qualified coming out of high school that has grown or developed enough that we should take a chance on given our O line numbers in this class. They would have 4 to play 3 or 3 to play 3 and give us a little depth for the future
And a from a juco in Los Angeles. That was one of the strangest recruits I?ve ever seen anyone sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Right now getting 3 quality HS OL per year sounds like hitting the jackpot given our recent history. We are probably going to need to keep signing at least one quality JUCO OL per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Agreed. Yeah to makeup ground we gonna have to beat the juco bushes for sure and hope Joe is more concerned about finding quality ol than the previous staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
The 25 man hard cap makes it more difficult to take JUCO's. As deep as the 2019 class is in Mississippi I think the strategy should be to sign as many Mississippi players as we can along a Schrader and then a 4 star RB. That's another reason why undersigning hurts- and it will hurt even worse in the coming years.Quote:
Originally Posted by desotodawgz
. Yeah, surely we called every Juco coach in the state and asked if they had one guy. I mean surely there is one guy in the entire state with d1 potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by desotodawgz
Under signing from here on out is gonna be a death blow to a program. Just can?t happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
OM just offered Tylan Knight from Pearl.
Like I said earlier in the thread, somebody will offer him and he deserves it. Size be damned
I bet we wait until 2020 for the JUCO prospects on the o-line. That just makes a lot more sense to me at the moment. Joe could also go after grad transfers as well- something Dan very rarely did.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Exactly. It would be essentially the same as a NFL team leaving a draft pick on the table. You have to take 25 and then adjust as necessary...hopefully 1-2 go to the NFL as juniors, about 10 play as true freshmen and then the rest redshirt. Hopefully no more than five don't pan out and have to be processed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
That's interesting. They do like scatbacks. Almost as much as they like WR's. I think he could be a pretty good kick returner in the SEC to be honest- I wouldn't mind offering if we have space.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Shotgun and some of the ''experts'' on here will probably go nuclear on me again for saying this but we are incompetent if we are worried about undersigning and we dont offer this kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Even if all we get is a good special teams player/returner its worth it and better than signing no one. He will make OM or wherever he goes a better program
I agree with you. Better to sign a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
We aren’t undersigning.
The key here is still 85 on scholarship. You can’t sign 25 every year and redshirt players, those numbers won’t work. Some guys will have to be processed. You can sign 25 every year if you are willing to process 5-6 every year and don’t redshirt many. New math.
Lot of people forget this. We are a low attrition program that doesn’t lose a lot of juniors either. So we can sign 25 every year. But we have cut or lose 4 per year to make that work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandawg
You're going to see several players leave after spring.
I agree, and next year we will sign 25 and have to process some more.
Coach has stated he isn’t going to run anybody off right now, everyone has a clean slate. That’s part of the reason he isn’t going to over sign this year, along with the new staff hasn’t had a full recruiting cycle here. The guys we have “lost” to other schools aren’t from Mississippi and have no loyalty to State. And while I know it hurt’s some folks feelings that those guys didn’t choose State, some folks don’t see the attraction that we see.
I say we offer a borderline at all the high schools that have a big time recruit next year or a high school we want an in at to finish out the class. At least sign the freakin 25.
wait a minute--Joey did not start but he was a back up and gave us depth plus he was on punting and field goal teams. So He wasn't a bust. So in y'all opinion if a guy doesn't start He is a bust??Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
i think we have 3 -OL red shirtted--2 Jucos and Suggs--am I right?Quote:
Originally Posted by desotodawgz
Jocquell Johnson never started and he was 3 year player. Sign guys that should develop into to SEC players
I like this idea if we can't find replacements. That or go find some freak athletes playing basketball that we can try at DEQuote:
Originally Posted by Roy Munson
Absolutely. Definitely have a chance if you sign someone as opposed to not signing anyone. And now with the 25 cap even more important.Quote:
Originally Posted by vv83
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Originally Posted by sandawg
I admire Coach JoeMo for doing this because it gives every player an equal opportunity to earn a position, and not just based on what Mullen's thinking and evaluation was. It's Coach JoeMo's team now, and he may see something in a certain player that Mullen didn't. I agree. I think most of those complaining are still looking back when MSU was recruiting kids who grew up being Bulldogs, or had connections to MSU, and thinking these AL, LA, etc. kids have that same mindset. Also kids change their minds and sometimes they just like one school better than another one.
David Johnson even has his CB prediction to MSU for Lovett and Reed this morning.
That?s some good news, at least to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yep to me too. I probably shouldn't have put for the gloom and doom comment> I'll edit and delete that.
To add to all the gloom and doom and meltdowns ..
Of the top 5 guys we missed on. If we had the old staff still intact we prob just land 2 of them. ( McDowell and Bleich)
Carvin - Tenn
Smith - Bama
Bishop - would have still flipped to Arky
And I bet Mason would have still flipped as well.
So let’s see what the new staff can do now that they are all intact and have been here more than a minute or 2.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Since we have open scholarships, I wish we would offer Tylan Knight as a special teams specialist. He will probably sign with Ole Miss.
This why I don’t do recruiting. Moorhead has been here, what, three months, max. And this talk already?
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Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I agree too.
Yeah I?m not in favor of us leaving schollies on the table especially with the cap coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Again.....there will not be scholarships that go "unused". I don't why people keep talking about this crap. Dan is gone.
So what is our number to have 85 scholarship players in the spring?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Of course that ensures that we will have "unused" scholarships in the spring (obviously we'll give them to somebody, but it will be upper classmen walkons) because we will have attrition after people get an idea of where they are on the depth chart.
Nobody has 85 scholarship players in the spring. Not when you're going to add 10-18 guys every year in the summer. Unless I'm not understanding your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
From what I understand the total we have scholarships for is 21 I believe. Any more and you have to process that many out which Moorhead said he wasn’t going to do this year. We have 18 committed (1 sign and place) add Lovett and reed. We have 1 scholarship remaining unless someone processes themself.
We only have 15 that have signed so if 21 is the max we have 6 left that we could sign next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyDawg
We do have the 3 that are committed and If those 3 signed we would have 3 left.