The same thing we all think about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
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The same thing we all think about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Well you are not getting him for anything under 1.1. That is his price.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Here's my question. Why would we not pay that?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I get he's young. But our fan base is exceedingly unrealistic on what pay for play really means. If we want guys with potential and who can play, we have to pay. And it's going to cost a lot of money. More than we are comfortable with.
The reason we don't get guys is because we aren't willing to pay. Period. We won two games. It's gonna cost money to get players.
Time to get over it. You want to win? Pay these kids a lot of money. Every year. And get used to it. To get good QBs, the word million is gonna have to be in the sentence. Hundreds of thousands doesn't get you QB talent. Sucks but it is what it is.
I do not mind paying that to a kid who is worth it or has done anything to deserve it. Van Buren is not a good QB. He has good physical skills, ie. strong arm. That is it. He dirts slant routes, has no clue how to move in the pocket, has shit ball control, and has no clue how to read a defense. If he was true Freshman that played sparingly this past year that would be ok. But he played in 10 games and started in 8. It is not a good sign that he was still making the same mistakes in Game 12 that he was in game 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Had a text from my source a 7:50 saying Arnold was coming to us and then at 8:30 saying something changed in that time frame. These kids are nuts man
Our coaching staff let him go on that trip. That is what happened. They were not letting him leave without committing. Murphy had already left without committing and the natives were restless. Welcome to the portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
$1.1 MIL for 1 win? I like him better than some but not at SEC full time starter money. I would been ok with half that and incentives getting him to his asking price. I'm ok with that with him but not $1.1 MIL. Which he had lowered from his initial $1.5 MIL. Where is his visits lined up btw?Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Because we're not paying 1.1 million dollars for a guy we see as our backup and who we don't think will be the starter in 2026.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Wth? Did Freeze blow JA himself or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Our OL was trash and Van Buren is a true freshman. He does need work. But put him in the same talent situation as Iamaleava at Tennessee and he would look a lot different.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He knows the offense and that has value and he clearly has arm talent. And a good P4 team will pay him some money to come in. And what we need right now is talent. Van Buren didn't change the game for us as much as he could have, but his surrounding parts forced us to not allow him to manage games but have to sling it all over the place.
Not a good recipe for a true freshman inserted 1/3 of the way into the year.
He went where he wanted to go, Auburn. They probably promised he'd start and he fell for it. He doesn't like competition so it was probably pretty easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
This is wrong. It changed the minute he scheduled the Auburn visit. At that point, it was over.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
This is the aspect nobody is talking about. He has a guaranteed starting spot there. He doesn't have that here. I'd pick Auburn too in that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
They promised him he would start. Now, when they bring in another QB, my guess is he will try to transfer again and he will try to transfer to us. That will not happen. His only option will be ride the pine at Auburn.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
We really really really suck at perception. Regardless if Arnold is worth a shit or not we need a positive perceptive media moment and can not do it to save our lives. It is unreal how bad we are at this.
I think the parents and JA were probably telling us this stuff, but yeah I agree with you. The minute I heard he was going to Auburn for a visit it was overQuote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Freeze will always be Freeze. I'm sure several girls not enrolled at Auburn but posing as sorority girls played a very important part.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Freeze has taken the part of the Gospel where Satan tempts Jesus in the wilderness and made it a recruiting strategy.
Good. Decisions have consequencesQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I don't disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
But in our building, he's behind Shapen and Taylor is the future.