The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

You guys keep talking about loyalty to Trump. You still do not get it. It is not Trump as a person we are loyal to, but the ideology he represents.


Individual Freedoms: Get government out of the way so individuals can do what they do best

Right to life: Do not murder the innocent

America First: After all he is President of the US not the world

Freedom of Religion: Including Christians, not just Muslims

Promote Traditional Family: Mom and Dad (If I have to explain that, then you've lost all sense of biology)

Reduce Taxes: Self evident as to why

Limited Government: Large government infringe on its people, mandate higher taxes and interfere with free enterprise

Close the Border: Every sovereign country has the right and obligation to do so. Illegal immigrants drain social services meant for legal citizens

Strong Military: Self evident in todays world - Peace through strength

Reduce Immigration: Keeps employment high and improves salary for its citizens

Private Healthcare: Not government run - would be a disaster

Foreign Aid: Stop giving money to countries that don't like us

Energy Independence: Why rely of foreign resources and support foreign nations that use that money to hurt the US?

No Carbon Tax: Unfair taxation compared to other less developed nations

Appoint Pro-Constitution Judges: Stopped appointing judges that rewrite the Constitution from the bench

Pro Capitalism: Provides the best opportunity of living the American Dream

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**** it. I'm attacking this as a Christian.

Individual Freedoms: "No idols before me." God don't agree with you.

Right to life: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Both abortion and the death penalty are wrong here.

America First: Love Thy Neighbor. God disagrees again.

Freedom of Religion: circle back to 1.

Promote traditional family: Why does God make abominations without genitalia or with both? Why did God reward a brother/sister marriage? What's interesting is that the traditional biblical marriage was that the man owned the woman as property. But hey that's not good for business is it. We'll leave this one as a N/A. That keeps our tally as 0.5/4 for Republicans following God.

Reduce taxes: Greed man. Greed. Definitely not a trait God wants here. 0.5/5

Limited government: He is the ruler above all and absolute. I'll mark this one as N/A as well.

Close the Border: Love Thy Neighbor.

Strong Military: Yea... no. Not Christian thinking at all.

Reduce immigration: Love thy Neighbor

Private Healthcare: This one is more complicated because it definitely initially falls under love thy neighbor but your intentions COULD be to help everyone better in the long run. Call it a N/A.

Foreign Aid: Love Thy neighbor 0.5/9

Energy Independence: Not Applicable

No Carbon Tax: I think it falls under the branch of love thy neighbor, but I don't want you to feel too bad about this so i'll give you a wash here as well.

Appoint Pro-Constitution Judges: Yep. **** the 13th, 19th, etc. amendments. It's every MAN (white, not black) has the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Stop rewriting something that was written 250 years ago. It's still applicable now. But Trump's comments from 7 years ago aren't. We're definitely marking this as Anti-Christian as hell.

Pro Capitalism: Foster a place where it's better to not love your neighbor. Hmmmmm.

Final tally 0.5/11 Abortions are the only thing that is decidedly Christian. Party of Christianity my ass.

Can't we all agree that Nancy Pelosi is a horrible, hypocritical person and call it a day?

Now, let's all freak out on May 1st when everything is reopened and all of these people with symptoms infect the vulnerable. Yes, the economy needs to open but we need to be careful.

Also to add..... that stupid virus somehow brought my asthma back, and I'm on a stupid inhaler. I haven't used one of these since the 80s.

Our first case was January 21st.

And I don't expect him to just snap his fingers and things quickly happen... you keep taking it to two extremes. Almost like their is a spectrum here he could have had of acceptable response. (I know talking about spectrums instead of black and white can be a tough subject for some people, but it'll be alright I promise.) Him getting the ball rolling on things he waited to get the ball rolling in delayed our initial response and has compounded this issue. Again no guarantees, but him giving that much of a gap of inaction really really hurt. I don't think that he could have snapped his fingers and this would have been stopped, but he could have done a much better job of trying to.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

Can't we all agree that Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump are horrible, hypocritical people and call it a day?

Now, let's all freak out on May 1st when everything is reopened and all of these people with symptoms infect the vulnerable. Yes, the economy needs to open but we need to be careful.

Also to add..... that stupid virus somehow brought my asthma back, and I'm on a stupid inhaler. I haven't used one of these since the 80s.

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Fixed it, but I can admit that. Too many people deify trump to agree to it.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Our first case was January 21st.

And I don't expect him to just snap his fingers and things quickly happen... you keep taking it to two extremes. Almost like their is a spectrum here he could have had of acceptable response. (I know talking about spectrums instead of black and white can be a tough subject for some people, but it'll be alright I promise.) Him getting the ball rolling on things he waited to get the ball rolling in delayed our initial response and has compounded this issue. Again no guarantees, but him giving that much of a gap of inaction really really hurt. I don't think that he could have snapped his fingers and this would have been stopped, but he could have done a much better job of trying to.

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No ... YOU keep taking it to extremes. Could he have done some things better ... Sure. But as I've stated before ... A LOT of smart folks were giving him their opinion and he had to wade thru all that to make any decision. And some of those smart people were wrong too. And Trump has erred also. You expected perfection when it was impossible to even come close to that.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Fixed it, but I can admit that. Too many people deify trump to agree to it.

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Definitely not a Trump fan, but I'm afraid of the alternative. I'm afraid to reopen the economy, but I'm also afraid that my friends and family will be without a job if we don't. No matter what happens..... people are going to get pissed off and lives will be ruined.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

No ... YOU keep taking it to extremes. Could he have done some things better ... Sure. But as I've stated before ... A LOT of smart folks were giving him their opinion and he had to wade thru all that to make any decision. And some of those smart people were wrong too. And Trump has erred also. You expected perfection when it was impossible to even come close to that.

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No. I expected better. Trump was supposed to bring in only the best around him. You asked me what I thought he could have done better. I answered. Then it's I'm expecting perfection. No, I expect better. Not a hard concept. The dude didn't do enough to quell this. Not near enough, not quick enough. And he's undoing what was working.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

Definitely not a Trump fan, but I'm afraid of the alternative. I'm afraid to reopen the economy, but I'm also afraid that my friends and family will be without a job if we don't. No matter what happens..... people are going to get pissed off and lives will be ruined.

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This is where I have the disconnect.

You're afraid of them not having a job... why?

List out some reasons why.

And then ask yourself... can't the government subsidize these things right now? Instead of injecting money to big business... couldn't they cut out the middle trickle down man and just bailout on the personal level? We can throw 1.5 trillion into big business on a whim, but not give it to the people?

Can y'all at least follow the logic there? Idc if you agree with it, but damn at least be able to follow it.

Either y'all will make it or your lungs will melt. Good luck to you all!

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Originally Posted by hacker

You know Trump was a democrat until 2008 right? Wouldn't say ideology is his strong suit.

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Ha ha ha.

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Originally Posted by hacker

It's only been 12 years man. He donated to Hillary's campaign in 2008.

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Lots of people donate to various campaigns. You know that right??

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

**** it. I'm attacking this as a Christian.

Individual Freedoms: "No idols before me." God don't agree with you.

Right to life: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Both abortion and the death penalty are wrong here.

America First: Love Thy Neighbor. God disagrees again.

Freedom of Religion: circle back to 1.

Promote traditional family: Why does God make abominations without genitalia or with both? Why did God reward a brother/sister marriage? What's interesting is that the traditional biblical marriage was that the man owned the woman as property. But hey that's not good for business is it. We'll leave this one as a N/A. That keeps our tally as 0.5/4 for Republicans following God.

Reduce taxes: Greed man. Greed. Definitely not a trait God wants here. 0.5/5

Limited government: He is the ruler above all and absolute. I'll mark this one as N/A as well.

Close the Border: Love Thy Neighbor.

Strong Military: Yea... no. Not Christian thinking at all.

Reduce immigration: Love thy Neighbor

Private Healthcare: This one is more complicated because it definitely initially falls under love thy neighbor but your intentions COULD be to help everyone better in the long run. Call it a N/A.

Foreign Aid: Love Thy neighbor 0.5/9

Energy Independence: Not Applicable

No Carbon Tax: I think it falls under the branch of love thy neighbor, but I don't want you to feel too bad about this so i'll give you a wash here as well.

Appoint Pro-Constitution Judges: Yep. **** the 13th, 19th, etc. amendments. It's every MAN (white, not black) has the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Stop rewriting something that was written 250 years ago. It's still applicable now. But Trump's comments from 7 years ago aren't. We're definitely marking this as Anti-Christian as hell.

Pro Capitalism: Foster a place where it's better to not love your neighbor. Hmmmmm.

Final tally 0.5/11 Abortions are the only thing that is decidedly Christian. Party of Christianity my ass.

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Move to Russia and leave their thread. You've ruined hacker's good info for one.... two, clearly there's a better place for you to live. Take off

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

You should stop by for the threads when someone says the Earth is, in fact, not 6,000 years old***

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Gotta give beardo props for calling this early on.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

This is where I have the disconnect.

You're afraid of them not having a job... why?

List out some reasons why.

And then ask yourself... can't the government subsidize these things right now? Instead of injecting money to big business... couldn't they cut out the middle trickle down man and just bailout on the personal level? We can throw 1.5 trillion into big business on a whim, but not give it to the people?

Can y'all at least follow the logic there? Idc if you agree with it, but damn at least be able to follow it.

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If you throw money at the person instead of the business, the person has no job to come back to Bc the business is gone. And wo that there is no money for the "government" to support them. The government gets its money from businesses one way or the other. Wo them, there is no business tax and therefore no personal income tax. Is that hard to understand?? Oh yeah I guess the "government" will just pay for it and fix it forever?? Damn your ignorance shows no end.
And last time I checked the stimulus only gave 350 billion to the small business yet gave people checks in their pockets. Well.... some people. Hope you spend yours well....

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Lots of people donate to various campaigns. You know that right??

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He donated to both parties. He's a business man.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

If you throw money at the person instead of the business, the person has no job to come back to Bc the business is gone. And wo that there is no money for the "government" to support them. The government gets its money from businesses one way or the other. Wo them, there is no business tax and therefore no personal income tax. Is that hard to understand?? Oh yeah I guess the "government" will just pay for it and fix it forever?? Damn your ignorance shows no end.

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The business should have saved up for a rainy day. Sounds a lot like socialism and handouts if the government has to subsidize the business.

If the businesses are run where they can't take a week of hiccup then they clearly are doing a poor job at running the business.

No really the problem with that is your comment lends to the fact that somewhere wealth is being created in this cycle. 1. if wealth can just be created, then why aren't they doing that instead of begging for a socialistic bailout. 2. You're saying that the government will get the money back out of the business instead of the people? Lower income people spend way more % of their wealth than high income. That money will get directly injected into the economy. The more hands it goes through and the more at the top, the more chances for it to stop and not be reinjected.

Without the CONSUMER there is no business and no income tax. Just look at oil to show you the true mark of this. Businesses will exist and rise up as long as there is demand.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

The business should have saved up for a rainy day. Sounds a lot like socialism and handouts if the government has to subsidize the business.

If the businesses are run where they can't take a week of hiccup then they clearly are doing a poor job at running the business.

No really the problem with that is your comment lends to the fact that somewhere wealth is being created in this cycle. 1. if
wealth can just be created, then why aren't they doing that instead of begging for a socialistic bailout. 2. You're saying that the government will get the money back out of the business instead of the people? Lower income people spend way more % of their wealth than high income. That money will get directly injected into the economy. The more hands it goes through and the more at the top, the more chances for it to stop and not be reinjected.

Without the CONSUMER there is no business and no income tax. Just look at oil to show you the true mark of this. Businesses will exist and rise up as long as there is demand.

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The businesses should have saved up for a rainy day? Hahah. Clearly clueless. And have a either have a govt job OR no job at all.
A week of hiccup hmm I'm pretty sure we are past a week. I've been reading your shit for weeks...
The lower percentage as you call it will spend it and will be fine. Some have more now than the ever had. Yet, our economy is about to be in the tank go figure....
Lastly, the businesses do come from consumers. But if there are no businesses, consumers can't do crap. But you can't see the forest for the trees

This is the most political nonpolitical thread I've ever seen. But hell, I'll throw in my two cents.

For the person that was comparing abortion and the fealty penalty...that is the most 17ed up argument I've ever seen. With the death penalty you have someone paying the price for committing one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. With abortion, you have an innocent baby being killed for no more reason than the woman decided this just wasn't a convenient time to be pregnant in 99% of the cases.

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Originally Posted by hacker

You know Trump was a democrat until 2008 right? Wouldn't say ideology is his strong suit.

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Originally Posted by hacker

It's only been 12 years man. He donated to Hillary's campaign in 2008.

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Trump was a registered Republican in the state of NY in 1987. A few years later he was an Independent. He's donated to both parties.

I used to have a really good video saved to my Youtube favorites but it's now banned by Youtube and it's incredibly hard to find anything anymore that paints him in a good light, but here's a good one that hasn't been banned yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi60DJvh9Pc It's an interview Trump did on Larry King in 1987.

Would like it if people at least watched the first minute or so before responding. The whole interview is great and one can see that his policies and viewpoints really haven't changed from 1987 to 2020.

Edit: Here's a great video as well a year later - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

This is an amazingly well put together video on Trump! I doubt some of the people here will watch all 25 minutes but it really shows just how consistent Trump has been.

Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNhzS4xkss

Btw I don't endorse everything the content creator believes. The video happens to be very good.

Some of you savages amaze me... wait... no, I'm not amazed...

carry on....

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

SO because he hasnt' done these two things you mentioned then the President has done nothing? How about this? The US has performed more Covid-19 tests than any other nation thus far...in a shorter time span.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/f...ime=2020-02-15..

Also, it's funny you reference an article on the DPA from March 28th. 5 days later the DPA was enacted by the President. Ultimately, though, he has left private owned companies alone and allowed them to support the effort at their own discretion (which they have). To date there is no shortage of ventilators in the US or critical care beds. I would say that some hospitals have struggled but other hospitals in thase same general regions are ghost towns. I think that has a lot to do with mismanagement of resources at the local level by hospitals. (i.e. We are short 5 beds so lets send the patient a county over to the hospital with 25 open ICU beds. Wait...then we don't get paid for them...)

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What has he produced with the DPA?

Why are govenors having to get their own supplies.

We still cannot do more than 150,000 tests in a day.
To reopen, per the white house, we have to do 10x that.



We have vents due to social distancing..

Trump has done nothing .

No coordination.

Everyone is left to figure it out on their own.

That's on trump

So what's everyone's opinion of trump? Jeez

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Originally Posted by confucius say

But if you are showing symptoms sufficient to go get tested, aren't you quarantining? The people I know who have gotten negative test results were already quarantining several days before they got results and then were told to still stay quarantined even though the results were negative.

I think we'd be well served to pour our efforts into antibody testing.

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We need both

Normal testing to do contact tracing and find the asymptomatic spreaders

Antibodies to see who has already had it and can *maybe* go back to work

*if it is true you cannot get sick again*

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

**** it. I'm attacking this as a Christian.

Individual Freedoms: "No idols before me." God don't agree with you.

Right to life: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Both abortion and the death penalty are wrong here.

America First: Love Thy Neighbor. God disagrees again.

Freedom of Religion: circle back to 1.

Promote traditional family: Why does God make abominations without genitalia or with both? Why did God reward a brother/sister marriage? What's interesting is that the traditional biblical marriage was that the man owned the woman as property. But hey that's not good for business is it. We'll leave this one as a N/A. That keeps our tally as 0.5/4 for Republicans following God.

Reduce taxes: Greed man. Greed. Definitely not a trait God wants here. 0.5/5

Limited government: He is the ruler above all and absolute. I'll mark this one as N/A as well.

Close the Border: Love Thy Neighbor.

Strong Military: Yea... no. Not Christian thinking at all.

Reduce immigration: Love thy Neighbor

Private Healthcare: This one is more complicated because it definitely initially falls under love thy neighbor but your intentions COULD be to help everyone better in the long run. Call it a N/A.

Foreign Aid: Love Thy neighbor 0.5/9

Energy Independence: Not Applicable

No Carbon Tax: I think it falls under the branch of love thy neighbor, but I don't want you to feel too bad about this so i'll give you a wash here as well.

Appoint Pro-Constitution Judges: Yep. **** the 13th, 19th, etc. amendments. It's every MAN (white, not black) has the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Stop rewriting something that was written 250 years ago. It's still applicable now. But Trump's comments from 7 years ago aren't. We're definitely marking this as Anti-Christian as hell.

Pro Capitalism: Foster a place where it's better to not love your neighbor. Hmmmmm.

Final tally 0.5/11 Abortions are the only thing that is decidedly Christian. Party of Christianity my ass.

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Your problem is, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE SCRIPTURES. Sure, you can quote parts of scripture, so can Satan - Matthew 4, but you do not understand the bible or what is required of man!

As Jesus said in Matthew 22:29, when a TEACHER OF THE LAW came to Jesus and tried to trick him with made up fantasies and stories to prove how righteous they were, Jesus replied, ?You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God."

As Proverbs 26 says "Don?t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are. ..." And that my friend is YOU!

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

You guys keep talking about loyalty to Trump. You still do not get it. It is not Trump as a person we are loyal to, but the ideology he represents.


Individual Freedoms: Get government out of the way so individuals can do what they do best OK Like marry who they want? be what gender they want? make their own health choices? Freedoms like that?

Right to life: Do not murder the innocent Says they guy arguing to reopen the economy and kill 30% of the old people

America First: After all he is President of the US not the world ????

Freedom of Religion: Including Christians, not just Muslims WTF You realize by limiting the state involvement in relation it protects Christianity

Promote Traditional Family: Mom and Dad (If I have to explain that, then you've lost all sense of biology)How does this link to personal freedom of not having the government tell you what to do. It's almost like one of these cannot be true...

Reduce Taxes: Self evident as to whyto increase the disparity between the rich and poor?

Limited Government: Large government infringe on its people, mandate higher taxes and interfere with free enterpriseHow is this different from point 1? and again, how does this happen when you also want the government to legislate your morality?

Close the Border: Every sovereign country has the right and obligation to do so. Illegal immigrants drain social services meant for legal citizens Cite? both for a Major candidate wanting no border, and for the social services drain. But where are the workers going to come from? Note the the GOP wanted to LOWER wages to workers

Strong Military: Self evident in todays world - Peace through strengthWe spend more than the next 10 countries combined.... 7 of them Allies with a mutual defense agreement... There are 22 aircraft carries in the world, the USA has 20 of them...
Who are we fighting?

Reduce Immigration: Keeps employment high and improves salary for its citizensWhere will the workers come from? we were at 3% unemployment and still were not raising wages, meanwhile the GOP was suggesting lowering wages to attract more workers...

Private Healthcare: Not government run - would be a disasterExcept for LITERALLY in every other industrialized country in the world, that all pend less public money than the USA does, for better results

Foreign Aid: Stop giving money to countries that don't like usno issue here, but what about those that do like us? or those that we want to sell things to?

Energy Independence: Why rely of foreign resources and support foreign nations that use that money to hurt the US?Great idea, Glad you like the Green New Deal. Because that's the only way we get Energy Independent

No Carbon Tax: Unfair taxation compared to other less developed nations Um you just said you wanted Energy Independence, I don't think you understand how that works...

Appoint Pro-Constitution Judges: Stopped appointing judges that rewrite the Constitution from the bench Completely agree

Pro Capitalism: Provides the best opportunity of living the American Dream

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With regulation it does, but the unregulated capitalism has killed the American dream since 1970...

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Some of you savages amaze me... wait... no, I'm not amazed...

carry on....

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Right on!

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

The businesses should have saved up for a rainy day? Hahah. Clearly clueless. And have a either have a govt job OR no job at all.
A week of hiccup hmm I'm pretty sure we are past a week. I've been reading your shit for weeks...
The lower percentage as you call it will spend it and will be fine. Some have more now than the ever had. Yet, our economy is about to be in the tank go figure....
Lastly, the businesses do come from consumers. But if there are no businesses, consumers can't do crap. But you can't see the forest for the trees

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Yep.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

Definitely not a Trump fan, but I'm afraid of the alternative. I'm afraid to reopen the economy, but I'm also afraid that my friends and family will be without a job if we don't. No matter what happens..... people are going to get pissed off and lives will be ruined.

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Agree. I have a lot of mixed feelings about everything.

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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked

With regulation it does, but the unregulated capitalism has killed the American dream since 1970...

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With freedom comes responsibility, something socialist and communist do not understand!

"Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being. With freedom comes responsibility. For the person who is unwilling to grow up, the person who does not want to carry his own weight, this is a frightening prospect." - Eleanor Roosevelt.

With apologies to Bob Dylan for yet another paraphrase of his famous lyric, marriage is what it is. Regardless of attempts (and even successes) to redefine it in law, the nature of the institution remains unchanged. Faux marriages, be they same-sex or polygamous or whatever, are not what their participants claim they are. Men and women are created in “the image and likeness of God” (Genesis 1:26-27). They have equal value before Him. But equality does not mean the absence of differences, which intellectual honesty requires us to acknowledge. Procreation and complementarity are the twin facets of marriage as it is naturally, in terms of biology, neurology, morphology, and psychology. Neither procreation nor complementarity can be replicated in anything but a male-female union.

As has once been said - "The essence of freedom is that each of us shares in the shaping of his own destiny." That is some*thing the fattening hog cannot do. And it is something a human being might not be able to do even if all the four freedoms so passionately idealized by our earlier president are fully provided for. If sharing in the shaping of your own destiny means anything, it means having a freedom of your own person. It means a freedom to move peacefully from place to place. It means a freedom to enjoy the fruits of your own body and that means a freedom to enjoy the product of your own labor. It means freedom to enjoy, use, and dispose of the things for which you have worked and which you have accumulated by the sweat of your brow. These are all things the fattening hog does not have even though the four freedoms of an earlier day are supplied in abundance. But the truly significant thing is that the fattening hog could not have the four freedoms he does enjoy unless he also had a master, that is to say, unless he had an owner who was providing them. Neither can any government provide its citizens with those four freedoms unless that government is also a master with power to seize the material necessities from somewhere else. And from where and from whom is government to make such a seizure? The answer should be clear."

So the Fat Boy in N. Korea is sick from the virus. It will be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't make it.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

So the Fat Boy in N. Korea is sick from the virus. It will be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't make it.

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Lots of conflicting reports out there, which isn't surprising considering its the DPRK. That would provide some small amount of justice. Who would even replace him?

More stats of excess deaths across the world

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ng-deaths.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWIi9csX...pg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVRBsuEW...pg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWIk9HBW...pg&name=medium

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Originally Posted by hacker

More stats of excess deaths across the world

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ng-deaths.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWIi9csX...pg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVRBsuEW...pg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWIk9HBW...pg&name=medium

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Not sure the bottom analysis is correct. Wouldn't you have to see if deaths fall overall once corona deaths went down to prove that? Example: I die of corona in April rather than pneumonia in November

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Not sure the bottom analysis is correct. Wouldn't you have to see if deaths fall overall once corona deaths went down to prove that? Example: I die of corona in April rather than pneumonia in November

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This is exactly what I’m wondering. Have no clue the answer and it’d be months+ before we’d know the answer

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Lots of conflicting reports out there, which isn't surprising considering its the DPRK. That would provide some small amount of justice. Who would even replace him?

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You are right. Seems like every intelligent agencies have different reasons why he has been missing. No doubt something is going on.

Some Good news.

LA County reporting that 4.1% of its population have Covid-19 antibodies or 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That's 55x what testing to date has shown. So, it is not as deadly, to the young, as originally thought...

The bad news is that means it's spreading faster and means we need to have a higher % get it to get to herd immunity...

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Not sure the bottom analysis is correct. Wouldn't you have to see if deaths fall overall once corona deaths went down to prove that? Example: I die of corona in April rather than pneumonia in November

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This also does not deduct the reduce traffic fatalities and reduced violent crime deaths during social distancing...

https://qz.com/1822492/traffic-accid...-the-pandemic/
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...id-coronavirus

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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked

This also does not deduct the reduce traffic fatalities and reduced violent crime deaths during social distancing...

https://qz.com/1822492/traffic-accid...-the-pandemic/
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...id-coronavirus

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Good point

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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked

Some Good news.

LA County reporting that 4.1% of its population have Covid-19 antibodies or 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That's 55x what testing to date has shown. So, it is not as deadly, to the young, as originally thought...

The bad news is that means it's spreading faster and means we need to have a higher % get it to get to herd immunity...

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This study was published on redstate.com only FWIW

It also can't tell the difference in antibodies between SARS-CoV-2 and coronaviruses that cause the cold.