He’s as good or better than one we’ve got committed. But I don’t think we’re taking him. Not unless a couple guys tell us no.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
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He’s as good or better than one we’ve got committed. But I don’t think we’re taking him. Not unless a couple guys tell us no.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
The short video released of OL vs DL for Mississippi practice Tuggle looked really good. Small sample though
ETA - Wouldn't surprise me if he got an OM offer as they need to start filling that class and none of our 24/7 guys have even mentioned him as a possibility on the OL we're chasing
Really wish we could get Edgerinn Cooper but it looks like he's intent on being the backup plan for a blue blood.
He Is the type of players that the blue bloods keep warm to prevent him from signing early, and sign at the last second only for us to never hear of them again.
Cooper is the exact type of player that is the personification of why schollies need to be cut to 70-75. For a blue blood, he is nothing more than a stockpiled talent that they'll recruit over when he could be a productive starter for us. Just stinks that college football works like this.
It destroys the sports and creates the reason why most Saturdays we watch blowouts.
Oklahoma is as blue blood as it gets.. and he decomitted thereQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Kid is waiting on LSU and who could blame him..
I don’t think he was planning on signing Wednesday anyway, so let’s see how it plays out..
Let’s just get thru Wednesday with no hiccups and then focus on filing the class up in Feb...
What's your best guess on Forbes Wednesday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I'm told that E Forbes is solid.
Huge. I've saw this kid play, and I like him a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by timotheus
Saw where Gene said we are looking at this kid. It was VIP so I couldn’t read it, but might be worth a flyer on if we need an insurance QB. Intriguing prospect to me.
https://247sports.com/Player/Alijah-Martin-46053070/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/5432520/Alijah-Martin
Unless he backs out of signing Wednesday it will be the good guysQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Athlete not a QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Are we pursuing any grad transfer WR’s? I know Zuber didn’t pan out how we hoped but think it hurt him not coming in until what like July. It’s hard to see anyone outside of Malik being a for sure guy that will play a lot out of the WR’s in this class & we don’t bring back anyone that scares anybody. So have we been looking at any grad transfer options at WR?
I don?t usually have solid recruiting info, but I?ve heard nothing but good things on Forbes for the past month, I think he signs Wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Is the 4.81 40 time right on his profile?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don’t think so. He’s a two sport kid. I think he’s a backup plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
Forbes announced this afternoon he is signing Wednesday at 9AM
Yancy has been feeding the sheep that Forbes is a grade risk so that means he's 100% signing with usQuote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
may be about right, but I don’t know where he’d play. He’s fast, but not real quick and explosive. He’s a really good athlete for a qb, and a hell of a runner, but raw as it gets throwing the ball. Relf-esqueQuote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
Honestly, if we sign most of our guys Wednesday without any major surprises going against us, I'll consider it a win.
Last year, I think we signed around 13 in the early signing period, so we still had roughly half our class to hold on to until February. Knocking most of them out early just allows you to focus on on a couple of targets (like Cooper and an OL or 2).
I think this class is well-rounded and addresses most of our needs, except at OLB, but Joe has until February to get that fixed.
The 85 scholarship rule allows the blue bloods to eat so much of the available talent that it makes it almost impossible for a mid-tier team to build a complete, balanced roster with capable players
If that's a backup plan, I'll take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
Exactly. Losing Hill at OL and needing to find some LB's are the biggest things we need to work on right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
We have to be smarter with our roster management than we were under Dan. We can't just keep recruiting a class with one OL that qualifies while letting guys like Saahdiq Charles go unchecked basically, completely whiff on the WR position, somehow end up with freshmen only DT's, and etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
No- we'll never have Alabama type depth but we're different. We need our juniors and seniors to be SEC caliber while our freshmen and sophomores basically need to be guys that we are developing unless we get a rare Jeffrey Simmons type of player. We can't expect to compete in the SEC with several freshmen expected to start and play significant snaps unless they are the exception as noted.
Dolcine officially off the board now. Switched his commit to FAU.
So that puts us at 21 commits with Patterson I would assume not being one we take a commitment from. So 20 spots filled as of right now it seems.
Hopefully Wednesday locks almost all of this part of our class up.
That sounds great in theory but the talent level in HS football isn't deep enough for most all of the mid tier teams to field a complete, competent roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Sure, we'd love a balanced roster but when faced with the option of taking a bad OL prospect vs taking an athletic safety prospect that MAY have a chance, you take the safety.
My point remains. You can have the smartest recruiting people in the world, but when they can create more adequate prospects to recruit.
Charles was always going to LSU and Moorhead screwed up our RB and LB recruiting last/this year. WR is basically more of the same. We?ll be getting a new coach next year and starting over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Charles was going to LSU as long as Hevesy was at state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I wouldn’t say CJM screwed up RB recruiting last year . We went fishing for a Big one and we ended up with Witherspoon who might turn out to be a really good player. The screw up with RB was the previous 2 years with Dan and crew
With LB we have some young guys just have to see how they develop. And getting Wheat this year bridges that gap for those guys esp If Willie returns
Charles was going to LSU as long as Hevesy was at state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I wouldn?t say CJM screwed up RB recruiting last year . We went fishing for a Big one and we ended up with Witherspoon who might turn out to be a really good player. The screw up with RB was the previous 2 years with Dan and crew
With LB we have some young guys just have to see how they develop. And getting Wheat this year bridges that gap for those guys esp If Willie returns
Are Caleb Ducking, Tulu Griffin, or Jaden Walley expected to contribute much next season? We need another impact WR to go with Heath. What we bring back from this year ain't gonna cut it. We need to be shopping the grad transfer market hard for a WR if we aren't already....
I think Tulu will because he is a slot guy and I think he might return kicks as well. The other two- maybe. Ducking could surprise some people. Walley looked good in the ASG practices so I wouldn’t rule him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
Sounds like Dylan Spencer might be moving up our board. OL from Madison Central that is committed to USM but is signing in February now. Per Paul Jones.
Quietest day before signing day that I can remember since I followed recruiting in the late 90s.
Can anyone remember a quieter one?
Bottom line for us is that we are a developmental program. Until we start signing a 5 star every other year and ten 4 stars every year, which most likely won't ever happen unless things change, we need to be redshirting just about every freshman and utilizing them as 5th year seniors instead of true freshmen.
We need to be smarter with our true freshmen in not wasting a year as I explain below, but also letting them get their feet wet with the new 4 game rule. We aren't utilizing that aspect of it as well. We have true freshmen not getting in ANY games at all. I know it's hard to get them all in, but if they didn't get in ANY games this year with what all we had going on, you know JoMo isn't going to get them in when we have a full roster eligible.
Case in point on wasting a year, Lee Witherspoon. He lost his redshirt by playing in 5 games. His fifth game?....Abilene Christian where he had 1 carry. So instead of possibly having him a full season as a 5th year senior, we lost that by having him carry the ball 1 time against Abilene Christian. To me, that is unforgivable and just plain stupid.
Let's see how he progresses and take a look after what will now be his senior year and think to ourselves that this could have been his junior year and we'd have another year of his services. We've done this with other players in the past as well.
Eerily quiet!! First year I recall with no talk of flips and shenanigans. Like I said, eerie.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips
That's criminal. Gross negligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips
Yep. That is downright stupid. 1 carry for a guy that could be a 12-15 per game kid as a senior. We just costed that kid 175 carries in his career with 1 carry.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Good management there. We could have put KT in the game for that snap.
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips
Except that it isn't true. Witherspoon played in 10 games - some of it on Special Teams. He had 5 games where he had carries (USM, KS, AU, Ak, ABC), 2 games with a reception (LSU, Bama), and 1 game with kick return (A&M).Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
While I agree that it would have been best to RS him, this was one of the impacts of the Tutor 10. We had to sacrifice a couple of RS this season in areas where it hurts.
Agree.. it is a shame we didn’t get to redshirt him or give him more carries.. same was done with Collin Duncan. Basically played every game but took very few snaps at his position DB But played in almost if not all games on special teams..Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
it’s the nature of the beast when guys are suspended / hurt / bad previous recruiting at certain positions/ ect..
But I agree the roster could have Possible been managed better to maybe save those guys redshirts..
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold