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07-31-2018, 03:56 PM
sscjr1

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

Still doesn't make sense, why would we offer someone headed to JUCO

He's a 2020 guy
07-31-2018, 04:34 PM
preachermatt83

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

My understanding is that Florida set this up for him. The advantage is he can avoid JC by going one year there and getting the academic help to qualify.....like an extra year of high school....not sure if he can play ball there but he could train.

He can go to img, amg, or omg... it won't matter. He will never see a d1 campus.
07-31-2018, 04:47 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by sscjr1

He's a 2020 guy

So how common is that for a kid headed to JUCO to get an offer before he even takes a snap?...I don't generally follow that far ahead..
07-31-2018, 05:12 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

Mingo commits to OM
07-31-2018, 05:12 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

He can go to img, amg, or omg... it won't matter. He will never see a d1 campus.

So is he still an OM commit? Or do they drop him later? I'm sure they want him on their list for his ranking.
07-31-2018, 05:23 PM
bostondawg

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Mingo commits to OM

Now comes the part where they sew discord amongst the class because they have to start cutting guys to continue to recruit.
07-31-2018, 05:31 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by bostondawg

Now comes the part where they sew discord amongst the class because they have to start cutting guys to continue to recruit.

Honestly I didn't really care that much, I just wanted a stud at WR this class. No slight to Pruitt, Torbor, or the other guys left on the board, but Jackson and Mingo are the only 2 that fit that mold. All you ca hope for is that the season will change things, but we'll probably have to wait 4 months to find out if we got an A- or a C+ WR class
07-31-2018, 05:41 PM
Cooterpoot

If you can’t beat them recruiting or on the field, you reap what you sow. Thanks Dan! 17 you!
07-31-2018, 05:44 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

If you can’t beat them recruiting or on the field, you reap what you sow. Thanks Dan! 17 you!

Everything is Mullen's fault and everyone cheating. Cry me a river
07-31-2018, 05:45 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Is Mingo leaning OM?

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

No..

Sources...
07-31-2018, 05:50 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Here is what I've learned from watching Ole Miss try to win the recruiting title every year. They recruit big and then do nothing with it. The few bowls that they won with the greatest recruiting class of all time will probably be taken from them when allis said and done. It has also been my experience that if a highly rated athlete chooses to got to a school on probation, with limited scholarships, visists, and coaching experience then we PROBABLY don't need that athlete because he is following something that doesn't equate to long term success and potential. I think this is why we regularly see Ole Miss underperform even they they recruit well. Just my two cents. Moorhead seems to know what he is looking for and seems to evaluate talent well. He's given us no reason to not trust him. He's still learning but I think we are going to be just fine.

PS: if Mullen were still here this recruiting class would solidly be in the 30's right now.

Limited scholarships? They don't have any real limited scholarships. Their probation was and is a joke. All they got was a bowl ban but HS players aren't worried about a bowl ban because that will be over by the time they are playing. NCAA gave them nothing that would really impede their recruiting.
07-31-2018, 05:52 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Everything is Mullen's fault and everyone cheating. Cry me a river

Well, it’s true. We suck at cheating. Everybody cheats including us. Dan 17 us losing to their asses end of the season every year while job hunting. Now, with a great class we’ve got a new staff trying to sell goods sight unseen and most of the offensive players still talking about our conservative approach.
07-31-2018, 05:54 PM
Turfdawg67

"Jackson isn't going to OM"... next day commits to OM.
"Mingo isn't an OM lean" ... next day commits to OM.

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07-31-2018, 05:54 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Well, it’s true. We suck at cheating. Everybody cheats including us. Dan 17 us losing to their asses end of the season every year while job hunting. Now, with a great class we’ve got a new staff trying to sell goods sight unseen and most of the offensive players still talking about our conservative approach.

Then we aren't selling ourselves well enough.
07-31-2018, 05:55 PM
KOdawg1

I'm afraid we peaked too early. Lots of bad news lately and not a lot of good news on the horizon
07-31-2018, 05:56 PM
Ari Gold

Jackson flipping and Mingo committing were both blows but not surprising .
1. 2 months ago very few (me being one) thought we would land Jackson... And Mingo was less than 50/50 at best
2. It’s just August lots can happen over the next 4 month

I have gotten some info on Emery and what’s going on there. Kid is in a tough situation and that’s all I will say about that.

I have an idea for everyone.. Enjoy the ****ing upcoming season it’s going to be fun. Recruiting will be fine give the staff some time..
07-31-2018, 05:57 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then we aren't selling ourselves well enough.

Bingo. And haven’t for a long time and won’t.
07-31-2018, 05:57 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Mingo commits to OM

You could see that coming a mile away....now we can expect less than championship Caliber recruits at WR, LB, RB and OL....I hope this staff learns some things from this cycle
07-31-2018, 05:58 PM
KOdawg1

When does Hubbard announce? We need some good news to get momentum rolling again
07-31-2018, 05:59 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

You could see that coming a mile away....now we can expect less than championship Caliber recruits at WR, LB, RB and OL....I hope this staff learns some things from this cycle

Wouldn't count them out of getting at least 1 championship level LB
07-31-2018, 06:07 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Jackson flipping and Mingo committing were both blows but not surprising .
1. 2 months ago very few (me being one) thought we would land Jackson... And Mingo was less than 50/50 at best
2. It’s just August lots can happen over the next 4 month

I have gotten some info on Emery and what’s going on there. Kid is in a tough situation and that’s all I will say about that.

I have an idea for everyone.. Enjoy the ****ing upcoming season it’s going to be fun. Recruiting will be fine give the staff some time..

I really want to believe you.

The problem is that the staff doesn't control the amount of instate talent.

Per the amount of instate talent available, this has a chance to be one of our worst classes in a while. Again, compared to the amount of talent available in our state.

We've simply never missed this much.
07-31-2018, 06:09 PM
Bothrops

JoMo is gonna get his fill of OM sooner rather than later.
07-31-2018, 06:19 PM
msstate7

OM just got a 4-star o lineman from Arkansas
07-31-2018, 06:23 PM
GreenheadDawg

It amazes me that they continue to skull drag us in recruiting. It’s amazing
07-31-2018, 06:25 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

It amazes me that they continue to skull drag us in recruiting. It’s amazing

How did our recruiting go from so good to so mediocre in roughly a month?
07-31-2018, 06:25 PM
jacksondawg

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

It amazes me that they continue to skull drag us in recruiting. It’s amazing

$$$
07-31-2018, 06:26 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I really want to believe you.

The problem is that the staff doesn't control the amount of instate talent.

Per the amount of instate talent available, this has a chance to be one of our worst classes in a while. Again, compared to the amount of talent available in our state.

We've simply never missed this much.

We've also never had Bama, Auburn, UGA, and LSU recruiting as many MS kids. Used to be the top 4-5 guys were all that could leave the state, this year the top 15 or so have options.

The thing that hurts me is that the staff isn't getting who they're targeting. we did early but the last month and a half has just been loses on so many instate and out of state top targets. OM is 3-0 vs us (Black, Jackson ,and Mingo). We know their $trategy but that's always been that way, and we should be able to be way better than this at beating it.

Ari, you can say it'll be ok and I'm sure we'll finish top 25. However, there's simply no denying this class is shaping up to be a big missed opportunity. You called Turnage a while ago, that seems to have fallen through. You and others called Emery, that fell through. Bucky said OM was "not our biggest threat" for Mingo literally 2 days ago.

At this point I'm checking out on recruiting till the season is rolling... it's clear our target board is all over the place with targets comiting elsewhere so fast, insiders have no idea what's going on, and the season is the only variable that can really change our recruiting outlook. That and time to build relationships and counter $$$ influences. Either way there's not much good that will be happening soon, but a lot of chaos and disappointment for those ho try to keep up
07-31-2018, 06:30 PM
Bothrops

Ole Miss will get Dean, get another flip, and probably pull an elite player from out of state, that will get a lot of attention. They will sign a top 20 class in February.
07-31-2018, 06:31 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Ole Miss will get Dean, get another flip, and probably pull an elite player from out of state, that will get a lot of attention. They will sign a top 20 class this year.

At least we can fill our class out with the ones they have to drop (maybe **, maybe not)
07-31-2018, 06:33 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by msstate7

At least we can fill our class out with the ones they have to drop (maybe **, maybe not)

Well that may be a viable option for us, since we're running out of realistic targets.
07-31-2018, 06:34 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Well that may be a viable option for us, since we're running out of realistic targets.

Nah brah, country club gone... we recruiting top 10 now
07-31-2018, 06:35 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Ole Miss will get Dean, get another flip, and probably pull an elite player from out of state, that will get a lot of attention. They will sign a top 20 class this year.

If they do I want us to sling money around like there's no tomorrow. 17 it- if all the other West teams hand out Chargers, and OM isn't even trying to hide it, then we have to accept this is the new reality. NCAA won't do anything, even if they did decide to investigate is (which is like a 5% chance at most). Can't spell MSU without a little dyslexic SMU
07-31-2018, 06:35 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

So how common is that for a kid headed to JUCO to get an offer before he even takes a snap?...I don't generally follow that far ahead..

Moorhead and Huff recruited him when he was in HS and they were at PSU.
07-31-2018, 06:36 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Ole Miss will get Dean, get another flip, and probably pull an elite player from out of state, that will get a lot of attention. They will sign a top 20 class this year.

They very well may do that, but their top 2 commits are guys who aren't expected to make it to school (Black and Ealy) and besides Dean, they won't have any elite defensive guys coming in to fix that already terrible defense.
07-31-2018, 06:37 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by bostondawg

Now comes the part where they sew discord amongst the class because they have to start cutting guys to continue to recruit.

Exactly!
07-31-2018, 06:38 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

We've also never had Bama, Auburn, UGA, and LSU recruiting as many MS kids. Used to be the top 4-5 guys were all that could leave the state, this year the top 15 or so have options.

The thing that hurts me is that the staff isn't getting who they're targeting. we did early but the last month and a half has just been loses on so many instate and out of state top targets. OM is 3-0 vs us (Black, Jackson ,and Mingo). We know their $trategy but that's always been that way, and we should be able to be way better than this at beating it.

Ari, you can say it'll be ok and I'm sure we'll finish top 25. However, there's simply no denying this class is shaping up to be a big missed opportunity. You called Turnage a while ago, that seems to have fallen through. You and others called Emery, that fell through. Bucky said OM was "not our biggest threat" for Mingo literally 2 days ago.

At this point I'm checking out on recruiting till the season is rolling... it's clear our target board is all over the place with targets comiting elsewhere so fast, insiders have no idea what's going on, and the season is the only variable that can really change our recruiting outlook. That and time to build relationships and counter $$$ influences. Either way there's not much good that will be happening soon, but a lot of chaos and disappointment for those ho try to keep up

They aren't 3-0 against us. You don't think they wanted Jones, Pickering, Moore or Russell?? And if you are speaking of flips, Mingo has never even been an MSU lean much less committed to us.
07-31-2018, 06:40 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

They aren't 3-0 against us. You don't think they wanted Jones, Pickering, Moore or Russell?? And if you are speaking of flips, Mingo has never even been an MSU lean much less committed to us.

I've disagreed with you a lot in the past, but this is spot on. They would trade Jackson or Mingo for one of our DL commits in a heartbeat.

Now granted, they're going to try to flip one of them anyway
07-31-2018, 06:43 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Limited scholarships? They don't have any real limited scholarships. Their probation was and is a joke. All they got was a bowl ban but HS players aren't worried about a bowl ban because that will be over by the time they are playing. NCAA gave them nothing that would really impede their recruiting.

Does losing the appeal cause their scholarship limits to kick in (ever so slightly)? I went to Nafoom thread on their recruiting last night and one of their posters said that he thought that they could sign 29 this cycle. Is this even possible? I thought the limit per year was 25 at most. No more meltdowns. Whatever will be will be. Long way to Dec with a season to play out first. Keep working. Hail State!
07-31-2018, 06:43 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Honestly I didn't really care that much, I just wanted a stud at WR this class. No slight to Pruitt, Torbor, or the other guys left on the board, but Jackson and Mingo are the only 2 that fit that mold. All you ca hope for is that the season will change things, but we'll probably have to wait 4 months to find out if we got an A- or a C+ WR class

We will win 10 or 11 and a good bowl game and Mississippi will go 6-6 or 5-7 and sit at home and we will see some of the recent OM commits get real shaky fast! We just need to be in the game and we can get the best recruiting class we've ever had! Hail State!
07-31-2018, 06:44 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

If they do I want us to sling money around like there's no tomorrow. 17 it- if all the other West teams hand out Chargers, and OM isn't even trying to hide it, then we have to accept this is the new reality. NCAA won't do anything, even if they did decide to investigate is (which is like a 5% chance at most). Can't spell MSU without a little dyslexic SMU

We'll be the one school that ****s up and pays in checks and leaves a paper trail a mile long.

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