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09-09-2023, 08:11 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

We tried to throw it early, Will missed 2 open men and then we quit.

But if you want to pretend the plan is to be run heavy... maybe we should put in the running QB to make it that much harder on Zona. I mean if we were down 20 and had to pass to come back youd expect the passing QB to be in, so if we're just trying to run it down their throats Wright should be in by the same logic.

Or maybe we were running it that much because we could.
09-09-2023, 08:11 PM
Activated Alpha

Also y?all better adjust expectations this year with Will because he has obviously not progressed for being so experienced
09-09-2023, 08:12 PM
CaptainObvious

They read the message boards and believed they just had to line up and play every other play.
09-09-2023, 08:12 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

Get Will out of there. If Wright is not showing enough in practice to compete with Will he must be horrible.

Will rogers is a 4th year starter and holds SEC records and was pre season All SEC based on name recognition. The coaches can't just bench that regardless of how the backup looks. But if WIll proves he sucks on the field, then the media doesn't crucify the coaches for making a change
09-09-2023, 08:12 PM
vindastra

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

WILL ROGERS HAS 45 YARDS OF PASSING AND ZERO RUSHING YARDS

The problem is right in front of you

~23 yards
09-09-2023, 08:12 PM
memsu06

We should go air raid the 2nd half.
09-09-2023, 08:12 PM
StarkVegasSteve

Either let Will throw it 40 times a game or put Wright in there and run the GD Relf Coast. It is not rocket science. But Barbay sure is making it seem like that.
09-09-2023, 08:12 PM
HoopsDawg

If we can go +3 on turnovers again in the 2nd half, we may win.
09-09-2023, 08:12 PM
Turfdawg67

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

WILL ROGERS HAS 45 YARDS OF PASSING AND ZERO RUSHING YARDS

The problem is right in front of you

Maybe we should 17'n let the #3 all time SEC passer throw it?!?!?!? A godda*mn screen would work brilliantly. Defend this piece of sh*t OC all you want. Disaster
09-09-2023, 08:13 PM
mo7888

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

That's on the OC

Yup
09-09-2023, 08:13 PM
civildawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Either let Will throw it 40 times a game or put Wright in there and run the GD Relf Coast. It is not rocket science. But Barbay sure is making it seem like that.

This
09-09-2023, 08:14 PM
HoopsDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Either let Will throw it 40 times a game or put Wright in there and run the GD Relf Coast. It is not rocket science. But Barbay sure is making it seem like that.

Yeah, I mean we aren't asking Will to make any reads or throws that Wright can't make.
09-09-2023, 08:14 PM
NCMSTFAN

Will has 45 passing yards and the few passes he has thrown have looked bad! If all we are going to do is rely on the run game then play Wright!!! At least we can run an option to keep the defense on their heels.
09-09-2023, 08:15 PM
mo7888

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Maybe we should 17'n let the #3 all time SEC passer throw it?!?!?!? A godda*mn screen would work brilliantly. Defend this piece of sh*t OC all you want. Disaster

Dumbest damn decision ever to try and turn a passing team into a ground and pound offense.
09-09-2023, 08:15 PM
PGHBulldogBG

We need to regroup and settle down. Got to stop them on this first series
09-09-2023, 08:15 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by vindastra

~23 yards

Lets do Air yards. WIll missed wide open 15 and 20 ish yard passes, and the longest competed pass was 7 air yards. SEVEN
09-09-2023, 08:16 PM
Maverick91

Barbay and Arnett need to look Will in the face and say “we are going to throw every play this second half. If we lose it’s on you, you have it in you to make the throws. Make them or Mike is getting the whole fourth quarter.” Challenge him, become a diamond or dust. We are to freaking good this year to be so hamstrung by an inept QB.
09-09-2023, 08:16 PM
NeuteredDawg

Missed FG and defensive backs shit bed on back to back plays. Should be 17-0, minimum.

Agree on Will. Lack of mobility is a killer.
09-09-2023, 08:17 PM
tireddawg

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Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN

Will has 45 passing yards and the few passes he has thrown have looked bad! If all we are going to do is rely on the run game then play Wright!!! At least we can run an option to keep the defense on their heels.

And a bad sack
09-09-2023, 08:18 PM
MBDawg601

I'm speechless. Both teams have 160ish total yards. Neither defense is good either. Just ugly football.
09-09-2023, 08:18 PM
starkvegasdawg

Should have planted their QB several times and I guess we don't want to cover the guy out of the backfield. But that long pass play before half should have never happened. Ball should have been picked but our DB's must have been looking at the cheerleaders.
09-09-2023, 08:18 PM
Maverick91

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Will rogers is a 4th year starter and holds SEC records and was pre season All SEC based on name recognition. The coaches can't just bench that regardless of how the backup looks. But if WIll proves he sucks on the field, then the media doesn't crucify the coaches for making a change

Bump-you gotta make him throw it to prove it.
09-09-2023, 08:20 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg

Missed FG and defensive backs shit bed on back to back plays. Should be 17-0, minimum.

Agree on Will. Lack of mobility is a killer.

True, last two minutes a complete crap show.
09-09-2023, 08:21 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

If Will can't even throw a pass then he should not be in there

Seriously! This is the only smart statement of the night... unless there was a "Jimbo sucks" one I missed. Why, oh why is he in there if he's only gonna hand it off to Woody? Put Wright in and give us a dual threat instead of a zero one.
09-09-2023, 08:21 PM
maroonmania

Well we gave away 3 points because we stupidly went for 4th and goal on the first drive out at the 4. At the 1 or 2 I could that but from the 4 you need to take the points.
09-09-2023, 08:21 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

We can say to let Will throw it 40 times, but look at what we HAVE seen from him- 8 attempts, his 2 deepest throws were misses of wide open men, he's a sack threat every dropback because he has no mobility. SELA he made zero nice throws there too.

Fact is, maybe barbay isn't letting WIll throw it because he knows Will CAN'T throw it

"Will has records of course he can throw it!!!" you might say. Yes, Will has records throwing it 5 yards. I broke down his numbers compared to other Leach QBs and Will had the 2nd worst combo of Y/A and QBR of any of them. Same system, same coach. He's just not a good QB if his stats are worse than the no name low 3* QBs Leach always used
09-09-2023, 08:21 PM
BankerDog

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Either let Will throw it 40 times a game or put Wright in there and run the GD Relf Coast. It is not rocket science. But Barbay sure is making it seem like that.

We should?ve either kept Miller and Hollingshead with Will as our QB or go get Barbay with a transfer. We have good enough WRs but our QB can only hit middle of field throws. He can?t get it to sideline or push it up field. Mr. G5 is back..
09-09-2023, 08:22 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

We should?ve either kept Miller and Hollingshead with Will as our QB or go get Barbay with a transfer. We have good enough WRs but our QB can only hit middle of field throws. He can?t get it to sideline or push it up field. Mr. G5 is back..

You and I have talked about this. We did get a transfer for Barbay and it is Wright. This offense is made for him and not Will. We need to go ahead and pull the trigger.
09-09-2023, 08:22 PM
R2Dawg

Our D seemed to back off the pressure too. Why did we change what was working?
09-09-2023, 08:23 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

I will agree the playcalling has sucked. Trying to get cute with Wright handoffs to Will. Keeping WIll in the game if he's not going to throw. Keeping Will in the game on 4th and short even though the defense isn't respecting the pass and we just have WIll handoff. I think Barbay thought "well I can run it for 9 anytime I want, maybe I should try some of the funky stuff" and lost our rhythm
09-09-2023, 08:23 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by mo7888

Dumbest damn decision ever to try and turn a passing team into a ground and pound offense.

Dude... we are running down their throats. Woody has close to 100 yds in the first half. You just gotta mix it up some...
09-09-2023, 08:23 PM
maroonmania

I feel like we will end up losing because Arizona has a passing game and we don't.
09-09-2023, 08:23 PM
tireddawg

We got a transfer
09-09-2023, 08:24 PM
civildawg

Our offense is terribly boring right now and the crowd is so out of it because of the offense
09-09-2023, 08:24 PM
BlackSailsDawg

No qb is going to get in a rhythm throwing that few times.

You all seemed to be pissed about reality. The OC is making the calls. Not the qb no matter what qb is in the game.
09-09-2023, 08:25 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I feel like we will end up losing because Arizona has a passing game and we don't.

They don?t really have a passing game. Because their QB isn?t a statue!
09-09-2023, 08:25 PM
Dawgface

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Originally Posted by civildawg

Running the triple option with a QB that runs at a snails pace

I've joked that we would be running the wishbone this year but we would actually be better off running it with Wright at QB. This shit product we are running now is pitiful with Will at qb.
09-09-2023, 08:26 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick91

Barbay and Arnett need to look Will in the face and say ?we are going to throw every play this second half. If we lose it?s on you, you have it in you to make the throws. Make them or Mike is getting the whole fourth quarter.? Challenge him, become a diamond or dust. We are to freaking good this year to be so hamstrung by an inept QB.

We will loose. Maybe tell him that but for a single series, then let Wright get a full series when Will fails and go from there
09-09-2023, 08:28 PM
tireddawg

4 years of playing D1 ball in the SEC and you talk about rhythm? Quit making excuses for Will. His job is to execute when called upon. If he can't and just gonna run the ball, Wright can run.
09-09-2023, 08:28 PM
Dawgology

Quote:

Originally Posted by maroonmania

I feel like we will end up losing because Arizona has a passing game and we don't.

We won’t if we commit to the run and play Wright. Unless Will figures out how to complete a pass during halftime.

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