I?ve heard he?s staying at Ark earlier today, but more recently I?ve heard he?s accepted, & even more recently he?s signed & will announce tmrw. So I don?t know. Looks like it?s been a tough decision for him, but money talks. So does autonomy.
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I?ve heard he?s staying at Ark earlier today, but more recently I?ve heard he?s accepted, & even more recently he?s signed & will announce tmrw. So I don?t know. Looks like it?s been a tough decision for him, but money talks. So does autonomy.
Bulldog Friend of mine said he saw a picture of him at Arky basketball game sitting on the same row as Pittman. Hope Pittman was so teed off he wouldn't sit directly beside him!**
Arkansas 247 board as of now thinks he?s staying
I?ve been nosing around on his Twitter and will rogers followed him today but then within the last hour has unfollowed him again.
Yikes
Was Briles at the memorial a few weeks ago? I'm wondering if he reached out to arnett afterwards
He takes up 3 seats, you can?t sit directly beside him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I wouldn't be surprised with either decision. We ought to know in the morning.
Ark made it through the day without losing him. I say he's staying. Hope we have a good fall back plan
I can't believe how many of our fans fell for this. This was an obvious ruse to get a raise at Ark. Sure he showed interest with us and likely had in depth conversations with Zach, but his Agent is Jimmy Sexton, who plays cribbage while everyone else plays go fish.
We definitely have a very gullible fanbase. I never believed this for a minute. Why would an OC leave a traditional better program for the same position.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
And can easily match and exceed any salary we can offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
A shrewd AD (non Cohen) may have been able to sniff this out, but Zach likely was a rube in this situation.
You guys may be right, but it would be pretty hilarious if he comes haha.
It would great. He's outstanding. I just think once smoke comes out in situations like this that if it doesn't happen quickly, it doesn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
Zach is no rube and neither is his agent. Whether we end up with Briles or not, you absolutely have to go as far down as this path as you can to hire someone of this caliber if possible. We have reached out to multiple great coordinators which is exactly what he should do and what the vast majority of our fan base has complained about in the past. We complain about hiring what is perceived as average or easy or just promoting from within because it's easy. We complain about that and we complain about swinging outside of our norm...my word. Oh and if we eliminate coaches whose agent is Sexton, you just shrink your pool considerably. Jimbo just got swerved by who he thought he was going to hire and had to circle back to Petrino who had withdrawn his name and accepted UNLV's job.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Definitely not as optimistic as yesterday. If he is not announced today/this morning , then I believe he is starying at Arky. He would need to be in town working tomorrow if he is coming.
I wore my maroon into work today....expecting good news! Please don't let me down.
Sorry, but calling Zack a rube is just not right. Going out and hiring a top OC from an SEC west school is not easy and would require tough negotiations. Either we come to an agreement or we don?t. It doesn?t make someone a rube. I mean would you rather him not try??? I just hope we get a win in these type situations for once!!! It?s probably going to come down to how bad KB wants out.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Agreed. If the report isn't out by lunch, he isn't coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
People can be unhappy with their situation. He may be unhappy or not. If we are in negotiations, he must have some type of interest. And it’s definitely been long enough for AR to counter and he accept their offer and end this. So there may be some tough negotiations going on and he’s weighing it all out. But you know it’s always going to be tough with Sexton.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
Now that I have done a little more research I would imagine he would want at least the 1.8 million that they paid Odom last year. Probably more. So we're probably looking at at least 2 million. Unless he just wants out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
I could probably see this. It’s been long enough to hammer this out. We sure haven’t heard any other names since KB name came up thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
I'm not implying he is a rube, but likely used by Sexton as a rube in this situation. If you are publicly going after someone far out of your league, (as Uncle Jr told Tony) you better come heavy. Make a huge offer give him until the end of the day. Have several backups ready - you have to go into this knowing the odds are greatly against you. Jimmy Sexton plays Baccarat when everyone else is pulling the handle on a slot machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while.
I don’t know what the man is worth, but I’m ready for us to step up and make a big boy move. Even if we are at 2 mil., Annett and KB together wouldn’t equal Leach(5.5mil right?). And we may be cheaper as whole between KB, ZA, and MB than we were with Leach and ZA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I understand that and laid out that out yesterday, you have to give a strong offer. I probably give more lead way in time IF there's communication through the night. But today is the day one way or another and I make that clear. We do have backup plans which from what I understand are still good options. ZA is a very sharp guy. Not just with X's and O's. He may end up with someone down his list but he definitely has a well planned list of targets.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Well in this situation, Sexton is the one who has all the leverage. It’s a lateral move and both sides have enough money to pay really well. Sexton is just sitting on the fence listening to what both sides will offer. I could probably negotiate this deal and have a good outcome for KB. It could be just boiling down to assistant coaches KB wants or other demands like that. And if he really wants out.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Got any other names? I’ve been anxious to hear of othersQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
No man, don't you know? Random internet dudes posting from their Mom's basement are always smarter, more knowledgeable, and better at being college football head coaches than, you know, actual college football head coaches who make millions to do a good job. Zach is totally a rube. But viverlibre? GENIUS! Just ignore the fact that he doesn't even know that Briles spells his name with an "i", not a "y".Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
There's one I'll have to sit on because no sense leaking out a name if we do end up with Briles. I understand we will circle back to Littrell for one and Johns at Duke are 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
I'm not disagreeing per se, but people need to remember that Arnett won't be at $3M for long if he's successful. He's going to get extended at the end of the next year. Pretty much guaranteed for recruiting purposes. If he has a good year, he's probably going to get moved up to $3.5M minimum. If he has a solid year after that in what should be a rebuilding year, he will have a lot of leverage at that point to ask for and get the SEC average. Now, Briles very may well be gone to a head coaching gig in two years, so it's not like you're committed to paying a top 1% coordinator salary forever, but you also don't want to plan as if you will have a discount on your head coach forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
I'll let the bean counters worry about the bean counting. If we say we can support what he's asking for financially, offer it and live with it. If not, don't offer it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
You realize I'm in a "no lose" situation? If the long shot comes home and we hire KB, I'll just reply, 'I'm glad I was wrong."Quote:
Originally Posted by PMDawg
I'm just trying to set expectations, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles could see this wasn't going to happen. If we offer $2 mil, Ark can offer $2.5, it we offer $2.5, Ark can offer $3, there is no way we are offering $3 (and likely not $2.5 either).
Well I say if he is successful, it’s money well spent. We were willing to offer Mullen 7mil, so we may have room to spare. Success brings in more money. So just win baby and it will take care of itself. We are not poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
It’s going to depend if he wants out. You are not taking that into account. If he sees a sinking ship, he may bail. If he’s unhappy, he may bail. All we know is we are in negotiations, so there is some interest. KB could have ended this. I’m sure AR has countered by now and he could have made a decision. We may have to put an ultimatum on KB to sh*t or get off the pot, too. Sexton will keep playing sides till he gets top dollars. But like I said, money may not be the end all be all if KB looking to get out.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Return on investment. Winning paysQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Also we can use the rest of the money this year to get Jefferson***
TV contracts are just going to get more valuable. May as well invest now and reap the rewards.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
I kinda thought yesterday if it wasn?t done by noon today, then he will not be the OC. I look for plan A or B to move quickly now and hear something this evening.
Shannon Dawson is a name I've heard a little bit here and there throughout the search. I imagine his name will pick up steam. Kevin Johns will probably be a hot name as well. Littrell is a pipe dream. Kittley has no intention of leaving TTU and I doubt Garrett Riley would bolt after a year and TCU can outspend us by miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Those are just the names off the top of my head at the moment. I know Jake Peetz turned down Matt Rhule but you may want to at least gauge his interest. The problem is that any hire not named Kendall Briles is going to be a let down and rightfully so because he will have turned us down. There's no rumors about it, he was offered the position and has an offer, if he is not the hire then the next guy will always be the second choice. If it ever got past Kevin Johns then you could always just give it to Chris Hatcher.
I think the Briles shipped has sailed. Sexton strikes again!
Ya'll kill me with this.. PatienceQuote:
Originally Posted by Tough Dawg
What about Chris Hatcher? His name was mentioned early on. Or is he like a plan D type?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve