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Do any of those losses include Covid forfeits? You know it's coming. If MSU was serious, why we would even consider a normal dawg walk is beyond me with the concern of the variants.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
If you're getting vaccine, looks like moderna is the way to go...
Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine just 42% effective against infection amid delta spread, preprint suggests
https://www.foxnews.com/health/pfize...delta-preprint
I'm watching it closely... look my options are ban everyone talking about covid (which I'm not gonnna do) and delete the thread. Or let them be. If i just delete / lock the thread.. there will be another one tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Just pass on the thread if you don't wish to read it please.
An alarming stat but not peer reviewed. but who needs facts when linking to foxnews.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
From the article...Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
Researchers at the Mayo Clinic and Cambridge-based biotech company nference posted the retrospective study in medrxiv this week, drawing from tens of thousands PCR tests conducted at the Mayo Clinic and affiliated hospitals across nearly half a dozen states.
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I looked over the article, and found Mayo Clinic reputable. You disagree?
LOL, If you only knew......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Question about the booster from Pfizer: Since the original shot has shown an efficacy of around 6 months according to Pfizer, will this booster supply the same length of protection? Is the booster, in layman's terms, made of the same material as the original shot or has it been reformulated to provide protection longer?
We ALL need to pray that they are wrong. The people who have to look at the trends are getting scared, really scared. This is showing no sign of even leveling off.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
I hope to god you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
BTW, the fading of phizer sorta makes sense now when you look at Israel's numbers
ETA... I got phizer, and I tested positive last week. Didn't get sick though... mild fever and sore throat
Nice one. Way to divert from the fact you were posting a musician's meme...Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Depends on when Mayo's next album drops...Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
How am I supposed to understand what news to believe when I have to cross reference musician thoughts with a news organization? How do you find a way to get them all to align?
There are others that show them about the same. The Pfizer is evidently the one most people in Mississippi got. I saw one of the MSHD people mention that. In my family where I know what they got they were all Pfizer (7 or so) except me. I got my first one the first week in January so that may be why. The rest were a few weeks behind me. The point is the Mississippi numbers are showing 97% unvaccinated since DELTA became the main version here. They both remain equally effective against hospitalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Look deeper at Israel's numbers. Don't just read the headlines. They are doing pretty well and their numbers are about what you would expect to see. They are even better than that here so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Just looking at numbers, and then starting booster shotQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
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Here's the source for the tweet...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
CORONAVIRUSStudy Finds Most Highly Educated Americans Are Also the Most Vaccine Hesitant
https://summit.news/2021/08/11/study...cine-hesitant/
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Study by Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh
can you give any type of specifics? praying for you guys!Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
It has not been reformulated yet. The jury is still out on that six month thing too. Other studies show longer. The boosters approved so far are for a very specific set of people who are significantly immunity suppressed. Organ transplant patients for example. I saw something out of Miami Jackson hospital earlier this week. They were treating close to 400 COVID patients. A little short of 40 are vaccinated and 24 of those were organ transplant patients.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelCurtain74
You can do it yourself. Dobbs has said that something like 7-8% of cases here wind up in the hospital and around 15% of those wind up in the ICU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
A PHD in English and the like has no more real idea about this than most high school students. Their science education stops at biology 101. Also, think back on some of the PHDs you knew. That study is hardly surprising. Meanwhile 95% of MDs have taken it.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'd like this breakdown of what Ph.D.'s were refusing it. Where you getting it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Well ok but when you get Liver and 7 going on a debate, it might last for days or weeks*** I wish it was jeopardy and the final question would have a short answer and winner takes all!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
The debate want be known till a few years down the road, I'm gonna stay in my lane except when we talk sports and I know way more than either as I did Coach, LOL!
So you're saying covid threads are spreading as fast as covid now? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
Thank you for the source. In looking deeper at the information (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...5v1.full.pdf); it was derived using an online survey.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Volunteer online surveys do not produce valid results. (https://www.pewresearch.org/2010/12/...-online-polls/)
Here is an instance where the source would appear to be reputable, but when digging deeper - the means in which the results were derived make it worthless.
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Quick google search:Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
https://www.ama-assn.org/press-cente...ainst-covid-19
Sample size was only 300. Would like to see more responses and means on how they were derived.
https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...ine-report.pdf
First all of that is bullshit and why I I'm having to show ID to get horse wormer....Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Second, you know "BIG PHARMA" makes Ivemetrin and Hyroxyclorquinine too, right? Since they are Pharmaceuticals....
But know this, based on the R0 Of Delta, you will get Covid.
If you are Vaccinated, you give your body a 2 week head start in fighting the virus. If not, well maybe the hospitals will be empty enough so you won't be in the UMC parking garage.
Also to be fair, the number of people I know in academia, from R1's, to Vet schools, to small colleges like mine, this study certainly makes me dubious to its accuracy, because my experience/observation has been the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Previous infection with Covid will not protect you from Delta.
Vaccination will. Especially with the Moderna and Pfizer. CITE: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...a-variant.aspx
Yes it is..Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Cite for Mrna VAx being 88-90% effective vs delta https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...a-variant.aspx
Cite for previous infection not being effective vs Delta https://www.health.com/condition/inf...-delta-variant
Cite 2 https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-18...ays-oxford-led
Cite 3 https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/0...-an-infection/
And if you go to the ER with a broken wrist from falling off a ladder and they find a heart condition, they treat the heart condition, too. They don't just splint it up and let you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
I'm not sure you understand how healthcare works....
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Originally Posted by dawgday166
Because y'all are 17'ing this up for everyone else.
Delta (and other variants) were formed due to COVID spreading in unvaccinated populations.
And it's senseless to see people dying, when there is an easy and free way to prevent it.
And some of us have kids under 12 than we kinda like and don't want to see die from a preventable disease.
Do the rest of us a favor and sign a DNR/Do not treat to make sure when you get it, you don't take up a bed.
Help me here. What I've yet to understand, if you are protected by the shot you so believe in, what are you worried about? You will not get sick or need a hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
Fact is it is mostly the sick vaccinated that are spreading this. They think they are protected and are not. Israel study showed that natural immunity was 7X more effective than any vaccine. Millions of people don't need a vac, some vulnerable people do but not everyone. If you have natural immunity or have vac, what are you worried about?
I have my protection, I just don't understand the thinking? Please enlighten me.
Projections are based off of the percentages of hospitalizations and ICU admits to previous weeks. They are looking at the rising cases and applying that percentage to what they will have. If it holds, the national guard pop up hospitals will likely be used.
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
IMHO it is best to let them air it all out. It is what should be allowed on all media. We as Americans are in a terrible place in the history of this country since before July 4 1776.
As simple as I can put it.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
He has kids, his neighbors has kids, and he has friends that have kids that are not allowed to take the vaccine. They have no protection and no option for coverage by a vaccine at this time.
2nd, The vaccinated are not spreading this more than unvaccinated people. Anything stated otherwise is literally impossible to determine.
Just because someone has the vaccine does not mean they cannot still get sick from a variant or the original. It means they will have some immune response ready to go, but they can and will contract it if they come in contact with the virus at an efficacy rate around 80-95%, which is way, way, way better than 0% for no vaccine.
The virus, as with all viruses, spreads more quickly through unvaccinated populations. It seems like it is working through the vaccinated right now, because that is the hot button media darling at the moment.
When you look at the overall numbers of just the actively infected, it is 87% to 13%. 87% being unvaccinated people. The overall percentage of those being hospitalized are vastly different as well. Unvaccinated being the big percentage of cases versus hospitalization. Deaths too.
Perception in the media right now is all about vaccinated people coming down with Delta, but when you look at the number objectively (like Ole Miss) reality does not meet that perception.
When you have an area like that county in Mass or Isreal, with high high percentages of vaccinated people, the numbers look dire because everyone there that could get it is probably vaccinated. If you look at the percentage of that area, versus Florida and now Mississippi, it is spreading much faster and is more deadly.
So, simple answer. Get the vaccination. WAsh your hands. Socially distance when you can. Refrain from staying indoors for long periods of time with a bunch of other people. Keep your circle small.
Alright. Mississippi Facts coming up.
https://mississippitoday.org/2021/08...-unvaccinated/
1 in 65 covid deaths in Mississippi this year was from Vaccinated people.
Now I will be first to admit, this number is not the end all discussion because the vaccine was not available starting Jan 1.
But still, that is a clear indication, even if it were only 1 in 30 from March-July 22
You need age data too. I am under the impression that very few if any under 65 have died that had been fully vaccinated. The vaccine only works to trigger your immune system, if yours sucks, it's not going to work. So, the elderly and the very young will be in the most danger.Quote:
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