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10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

So what do you think QBs rankings should be based on?

How they'll perform in college
10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
dantheman4248

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

From my living room that night he showed zero emotion. And was out there yucking it up with Coach Meatloaf while they carted his QB off the field.

Did he get livid when they tried to do the same thing to KT a few plays later?

“From my living room”

Enough said. If you don’t see it on TV then it didn’t happen. As another person who was there mullen was one of the angriest.
10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

So what do you think QBs rankings should be based on?

Wins
10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
RocketDawg

Trask is back.
10-05-2019, 04:08 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

How they'll perform in college

Then just rank the blue blood commits all 5 stars. Rank the Oklahoma commit a 5 star #1 QB every year regardless of his skill set

See the issue there?

That's why I think the only way to do it & to attempt to guess the NFL draft order of QBs. It's hard no doubt
10-05-2019, 04:09 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Glad someone else saw it. The ol tackles the guy into the qb

Yeah, that one should have been a holding call on Florida.
10-05-2019, 04:09 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Wins

Woof. So, AJ McCarron & McElroy should've been 5*s when both were marginal talents?
10-05-2019, 04:11 PM
IMissJack

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

It ain't easy to hire someone at MSU. It sucks but it is what it is. Our fans make it even harder than it has to be.

Our disgruntled fans are baby stuff compared to some schools.
10-05-2019, 04:11 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Yeah, that one should have been a holding call on Florida.

Yeah it was pretty blatant too
10-05-2019, 04:12 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

He threw a damn fit. I was THERE and saw it. You weren't but know more I guess. Our fans..........

Liver...

He's throwing a fit. Then within the span of five minutes, if that, he's laughing with Coach Kool-Aid Man like they're just talking about the weather. And Nick's career is, at that point, all but over. They would have had to restrain me from getting in Coach Fat Ass's face calling him a dirty m'fer.

But, I guess that was the perfect time to break the news to Luke. I'm sure Dan started whistling Rocky Top around him waiting for him to ask why.
10-05-2019, 04:12 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Woof. So, AJ McCarron & McElroy should've been 5*s when both were marginal talents?

I told you, I don't care about the NFL, at all. I judge college quarterbacks on wins. It's kind of like US Grant as a general. He wasn't as skilled as Lee in tactics in war, but he knew what he had to do to win, and did it. When he moved up to the next level, he didn't fare so well. But in the Civil War, he was a winner.
10-05-2019, 04:12 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Then just rank the blue blood commits all 5 stars. Rank the Oklahoma commit a 5 star #1 QB every year regardless of his skill set

See the issue there?

That's why I think the only way to do it & to attempt to guess the NFL draft order of QBs. It's hard no doubt

As Mullen said on Gameday today. The most important ingredient in a good QB is how fast they process information between the ears. And that's impossible to judge in HS. And it has to be processed faster in pros than college. And then they also have to be able to handle the pressure too
10-05-2019, 04:14 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

“From my living room”

Enough said. If you don’t see it on TV then it didn’t happen. As another person who was there mullen was one of the angriest.

Anger that evaporated like water.

Folks that was show.
10-05-2019, 04:14 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Liver...

He's throwing a fit. Then within the span of five minutes, if that, he's laughing with Coach Kool-Aid Man like they're just talking about the weather. And Nick's career is, at that point, all but over. They would have had to restrain me from getting in Coach Fat Ass's face calling him a dirty m'fer.

But, I guess that was the perfect time to break the news to Luke. I'm sure Dan started whistling Rocky Top around him waiting for him to ask why.

You weren't there by your own admission so you by definition have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but you are doubling down anyway. If you aren't already in politics you should consider it. You would go far.
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I told you, I don't care about the NFL, at all. I judge college quarterbacks on wins. It's kind of like US Grant as a general. He wasn't as skilled as Lee in tactics in war, but he knew what he had to do to win, and did it. When he moved up to the next level, he didn't fare so well. But in the Civil War, he was a winner.

That's fine but I just don't think that gets us closer to the answer of finding out who the best QBs are.

I also don't care that you don't care about the NFL. Fact is, the NFL is a fairly objective measure upon which we can compare recruiting rankings to.
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Liver...

He's throwing a fit. Then within the span of five minutes, if that, he's laughing with Coach Kool-Aid Man like they're just talking about the weather. And Nick's career is, at that point, all but over. They would have had to restrain me from getting in Coach Fat Ass's face calling him a dirty m'fer.

But, I guess that was the perfect time to break the news to Luke. I'm sure Dan started whistling Rocky Top around him waiting for him to ask why.

Coach kool aid man! Awesome!

Luke has always reminded me of private pyle from full metal jacket(Dennis D'Onfrio)
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

As Mullen said on Gameday today. The most important ingredient in a good QB is how fast they process information between the ears. And that's impossible to judge in HS. And it has to be processed faster in pros than college. And then they also have to be able to handle the pressure too

Agree. It's terribly hard & #1 reason why all those Elite 11 camps are complete BS that don't actually help anyone rank the QBs

Again, every other sports recruits get ranked based on their pro prospect status.

PG rankings & Basketball stars are awarded based on the rankers guessing their prospect status. Why is football different? Just because it's hard?
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

As Mullen said on Gameday today. The most important ingredient in a good QB is how fast they process information between the ears. And that's impossible to judge in HS. And it has to be processed faster in pros than college. And then they also have to be able to handle the pressure too

Absolutely correct.
10-05-2019, 04:16 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

You weren't there by your own admission so you by definition have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but you are doubling down anyway. If you aren't already in politics you should consider it. You would go far.

Okay, Eyewitness News you win.**
10-05-2019, 04:16 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

That's fine but I just don't think that gets us closer to the answer of finding out who the best QBs are.

I also don't care that you don't care about the NFL. Fact is, the NFL is a fairly objective measure upon which we can compare recruiting rankings to.

And it's all about wins there too.
10-05-2019, 04:17 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

And it's all about wins there too.

Tell that to Tim Tebow & Trent Dilfer
10-05-2019, 04:17 PM
dantheman4248

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Anger that evaporated like water.

Folks that was show.

Doesn’t help a coach to wallow in anger. He didn’t have the high definition view to confirm it was dirty so he did like a good coach. Showed his emotion to voice his displeasure and try to rally the troops. Then refocused and went back to playcalling a trash game for 3 Qs.
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Okay, Eyewitness News you win.**

Better than basing your opinion on what ESPN wanted you to see, especially when Ole Miss is involved. Do your homework.
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
CovertDawg

Watching the QBs in this game have to actually go up against good defenses, not sure I would trade Shrader for any of them.
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
msstate7

Run the clock out
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Tell that to Tim Tebow & Trent Dilfer

It still was.
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
dantheman4248

Ranking QBs by wins is like ranking pitchers by wins. It’s archaic.
10-05-2019, 04:19 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Doesn’t help a coach to wallow in anger. He didn’t have the high definition view to confirm it was dirty so he did like a good coach. Showed his emotion to voice his displeasure and try to rally the troops. Then refocused and went back to playcalling a trash game for 3 Qs.

Bravo.

This is the explanation I can agree with. Thank you.
10-05-2019, 04:21 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Agree. It's terribly hard & #1 reason why all those Elite 11 camps are complete BS that don't actually help anyone rank the QBs

Again, every other sports recruits get ranked based on their pro prospect status.

PG rankings & Basketball stars are awarded based on the rankers guessing their prospect status. Why is football different? Just because it's hard?

Naww ... Cause QBs getting the shit knocked out of them. And cause of complexity of offense too. QB is toughest position to play in sports.
10-05-2019, 04:22 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by CovertDawg

Watching the QBs in this game have to actually go up against good defenses, not sure I would trade Shrader for any of them.

Ain't it the truth? Shrader just seem to have "it"
10-05-2019, 04:22 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Ranking QBs by wins is like ranking pitchers by wins. It’s archaic.

Agree.

I don't think anyone's opinion on how we should value QBs is dumb. It just seems to me that, if we were truly trying to be right about this, we would rank them based on what type of NFL player they project to be.

In the league where rosters are close to even, how good will they be?
10-05-2019, 04:23 PM
Commercecomet24

Dan just said it was a dirty play. Watch the video dan it was caused by your ol!

Now the unm hit on Nick was dirty but not this one by Auburn
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
RougeDawg

Dans comment at half sums him up as a person. His OLineman is holding the DL, shoving him into the QB and Dan asks the league to protect QBs from dirty plays. Slime ball.
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

ONE MORE TIME, Mullen threw a fit about what happened to Fitz.

When in the locker room? I was there and he looked pissed walked onto the field, looked at Fitz and walked off. Did something happen in the locker room?
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Agree.

I don't think anyone's opinion on how we should value QBs is dumb. It just seems to me that, if we were truly trying to be right about this, we would rank them based on what type of NFL player they project to be.

In the league where rosters are close to even, how good will they be?

So tommie Frazier was a bad QB? What about Tebow or Vince young?
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
CovertDawg

Such a pathetic comment by Mullen...why can a coach call a play dirty that was not dirty and get away with it? How is that not defamation of the Auburn lineman. Pathetic.
10-05-2019, 04:25 PM
dantheman4248

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Bravo.

This is the explanation I can agree with. Thank you.

Just see how quickly he calmed down and went back to playcalling in this for an example. He’s still pissed on the inside but it does no good beyond the initial outburst.
10-05-2019, 04:25 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by CovertDawg

Watching the QBs in this game have to actually go up against good defenses, not sure I would trade Shrader for any of them.

Bo Nix is more polished than Shrader, but Shrader's skill set is better. I think Nix currently throws a little better, but Shrader's size & athleticism gives him a pretty big leg up in the running.

I also like the way Shrader naturally moves in the pocket better than Nix. The only think IMO that Nix currently does better is that I think he spins it a little better with a quicker release.

They should've been rated close to the same. Shrader was a 91 rated QB & Nix should've been a 90-92 type
10-05-2019, 04:25 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by IMissJack

Our disgruntled fans are baby stuff compared to some schools.

Yeah, but a lot of schools aren't in the middle of rural Mississippi.
10-05-2019, 04:27 PM
Commercecomet24

Dan calls out auburn but never said a word about unm being dirty? Wow

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