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Right, the biggest screwup was not signing Dylan Bradley (who would have played alot for Us). Now it looks like we are going to screw up Simmons. Stevie Wonder could see Bradley could play and the fact that His brother is a Stud really makes us look stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Shirley you don't mean 8 on each side? If so, that's insane. IYOK is saying 8-9 "total".Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
according to me discussing our recruiting with some HighSchool Coaches--we get our ass out worked every year. I reffed for 30 years and I know several HS Coaches. Plus I have some that are Kin to me. They pretty much say Hughes was only sure fire recruiter. it pretty much sucks for Us to lose a Kid from the Golden Triangle. I would have to say our reputation is we are Lazy recruiters.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
Don't know why the Coach I talked to would lie to Me. he said it looks like Bama. And we have not been hard after Him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I'm not calling anybody a liar. I'm just saying I've heard the exact opposite from folks from Noxubee & folks from MSU side. I'm not saying he's a lock but I'm saying we're going all out for Jeffery & not half ass recruiting him. I feel confident in saying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I have a good friend, state grad, played for Jackie, coaches in the state and bad mouths our coaches even Hughes somewhat. He has an agenda and I know it because of a certain situation. We have talked about it and disagree completely with each other but have stayed friends. Just don't discuss recruiting with each other. I know from his perspective the situation left a bad taste in his mouth. But Hughes was the one who discovered the situation or at least brought to the staff's attention. People are human and have agendas. Another friend played OL for Jackie absolutely hates Mullen but loves Hev and thinks he is a great OL coach. What little information I know I don't buy we are being out worked for Simmons or AJ or Lashley. Just don't see it. Now there are ebbs and flows in recruiting kids get a push from somewhere other than where they spend the bulk of their time (Simmons and AJ go to a lot of practices) and maybe there is a perception issue with that coach. But we have spent more time with those players than any other 2 or 3 schools combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Well I'm glad you said that. i just talked to someone else that is really close to the situation and He says We are still in the Mix, but he said Ole Miss is working their ass off .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Thanks for the info--we should spend lot of time with those two-they are the best 2 players in the State and maybe tops in the South and they are in our backdoor. I know we have some good people from here hoping he goes to State.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
"Surely" you don't think I was saying we spend 16-20 scholarships on DL / OL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
You can never have enough depth on the DL or OL..
Shirley you don't think I don't know how to spell surely...I think 8-10 is sometimes overkill. It always needs to be 5-9 (at least...and possibly more depending on attrition), but there are years where 5 total (depending on how many you signed/retained in the previous class (and to a smaller degree, the class before that) is sufficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
if you have classes where you sign 5 total OL/DL - then you better be damn sure that you didn't miss in a single class ahead of it of it. Even then, I don't like the idea of signing 5 players for 9 starting spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Nothing sneaky about it or an agenda. It bothers me that a players son isn't at least looked at seriously. That's no loyalty imo. Wherever he goes he'll make an Impact. And it doesn't take a MSU camp to recognize talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
It was already discussed in May when you started a thread about this then and stating the same stuff then as you have now. And being talked about again in another thread. It is what it is but it was pretty misleading to bring up Hev like you just got the info when you said some of the same stuff months ago. Hence the appearance of an agenda along with your push for Banks. I like him. Wish we had offered but can see how the spots are too tight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Honesty, it doesn't matter to me who the recruiter is. My only point is we're dropping the ball. And we didn't have to because the play was a easy handoff that could have occurred. If he goes to Bama and torches our asses you'll feel different then. If he becomes a star and is asked my didn't you go to State like your father? When he answers honestly that we didn't recruit him our entire staff looks like idiots nationally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Nationally? Nationally nobody will have a clue or care if we did or didn't offer him. And there are a lot of If's in your statement. He has a better chance of going to Bama and never playing than he does blowing up. Is his offer committable or is his offer a backup plan? Hope he does have a great career but again who are you dropping to add him? Where are you going to play him?Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Lol....what part of Bama offered don't you get? Everyone we have committed has a high chance of tanking so what are you saying? Nothing is guaranteed. And last I checked we don't any commit with a Bama offer. South Carolina offered the following day so we're still behind. He's already committed to North Carolina so he doesn't have to change anything. However,If he came to State I'd play him at corner that's the position of need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Exactly .. In the Sec you better have 16 sec ready guys to play every weekendQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
And this year apparently we didn't
There is a difference in offers. I don't know if it is committable right now or not. It may be. Buts not uncommon as a back up plan for larger schools. And for the 3rd or 4th time I already said I would have probably offered him but you are offering him as a CB and everybody else as WR. Does he prefer WR? And who are you dropping at CB to add him?Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I just told you it's committable. He honestly doesn't care or prefer any position. Being that Knott is not sure you get a player that can do everything and more with Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
No. You said what part of Bama offered did I not get. An offer doesn't mean he is necessarily a take right now for them. There is a difference and you didn't clarify.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Can we get back to talking about kids we're actually recruiting? Just saying
You are right. Any positive traction on Moon or still about the same?
Still trending. We have the parents in our corner which is always a plus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Screw that. I want to know who we have committed at CB in this class and which CBs we have on the team with at least three years of eligiblity after this year so I can know whether to be pissed we didn't offer Banks. Also, I'd like to know if Banks would be interested in playing CB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Seriously though, I hate that he didn't get an offer. Have no reason to think he should, especially with our recent track record with receivers, but would prefer for in state kids and legacies to get the borderline calls when possible. I am starting to view DBs like OL though considering how bad our safeties have been recently and how bad we will potentially be at CB this upcoming year.
We signed a 4* CB in Stamps & a kid with 50 offers in Smitherman last year. This year we have 2 borderline 4* guys in Morgan-Walker (offers from OK, A&M, UCLA, Baylor, etc) & Dantzler. Also an All state juco in Durr. Not to mention a chance to close with 1 of the top CB in the country in Knott.
Couple new OV set
Clyde Chriss 4* WR from New Orleans
Marquez Calloway 4* ATH from Warner Robbins
Both set to OV the 1/22 weekend.
Are these courtesy or legit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Is Velus and Chushenberry coming that weekend as well? Is he a take if he wants to decommit from USCw? I think we need to really impress to move up the other guy's boards.
How about Aaron Dowdell?
Not saying that the percentage is high that we get these guys, but you don't "courtesy" an OV when you're uncommittedQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I really can't say right now. I know Chriss has been on campus 2 or 3 times this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I don't expect anything to happen with Velus. I'll be very surprised if Cushenberry doesn't leave Starkville committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
That's definitely pretty solid. I hope at least two of them are ready this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Good deal. I expected if Cushenberry came on OV he would probably leave committed or shortly after. Think he is a good project to work with. And I am fine with Velus situation. Would like to land Couch and Moon to go along with the players that the board has talked about a lot. Sounds like a good shot with Couch and good position with Moon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Georgia telling him to look around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Who told you that? Guys take OV's knowing they're not coming to a school and coaches know it too. They try to change their opinions that's the reason these visits can be very beneficial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
You just described a non-courtesy visitQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Players coming only because asked with no intentions of attending with coaches having knowledge. It happens yearly across the country.
Let's hope espn is just mixing up the schools again.
@EMcKinneyESPN: #ESPN300 WR A.J. Brown said he'll take officials to Alabama (Jan. 15), Ole Miss (Jan. 22) and Cal (Jan. 29), plus some potential unofficials
Probably not. AJ has no reason to waste an official visit on his home town right? He can unofficially visit every weekend to State if he wants to I would think. Maybe I'm wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog