Go to page 6 in this thread and read. That way you can plead your case with several others.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Go to page 6 in this thread and read. That way you can plead your case with several others.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I'd be surprised if it's Hodge so why the hell not right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
On3 were the ones saying that KT was going to start first if I'm not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlSwearengen
What we don't know is if Bumphis told them and told them to keep it quiet and they went with it or not.
That?s why when you?re told to keep this between the walls of the Bryan Building, you don?t tell anybody. If he keeps his mouth shut, he might still be employed.
But of course it not.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Exactly. And rumor is Bumphis was warned before about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
At this rate with Lebby it will probably be Kevin Barbay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Joe Moorhead OC, Kevin Barbay QBs, and Steve Spurrier Jr WRs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Dream TeamQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Be still my heart...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Pissing off every faction of MSU fan at the same time is one way to get everyone pulling in the same direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Well Rosebowl's sources are all at CAA now. He doesn't have much sourcing in our building anymore. That left with Cohen. I think he's still got some sources, but I know he doesn't have the sourcing he used to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Did Arnett switch to CAA in 2023?
I think it was before 2023 because he was with Jimmy before he got the head job.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Well it makes more sense now. Lebby is using his CAA connections.
Bump was the low man on the staff for WRs. His recruiting was not great. Our main WRs came from Lebby and others.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Yep. Lebby and Benton Duby.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
When you think about what Lebby is doing and remove emotions of it, I believe he is pushing hard to improve it all. It did not matter that Arnett helped destroy the team as HC (and we can debate the ends and outs of that). What mattered was Arnett as a DC and could it make the outcome better. It did not matter that Hutzler was his "friend" as suggested by many here. What mattered was the product on the field. It did not matter that Bump is loved by MSU. What mattered was how do we improve the offense... what is the weak link.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
It's great to have a HC with that mentality.
Maybe that's the ticket, give us a common enemy to focus on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
How did they come from Lebby? Only one player played at Oklahoma with Lebby. The rest of the guys were recruited by their position coach, Bumphis. Just so you guys are aware head coaches are apart of the recruiting process not the head. Lebby would be responsible for Thompson because he knew him. The remainder "Top guys" come from the position coach recruiting them.
I posted during the regular season that I counted about 24 WR types on our roster and we never even had a third receiver step up. Looks like a lot of bad evaluations or lack of development from someone. Heck, on the pass call (Boneheaded in my opinion), against FL, we had a true FR WR running a slant (and our 6th year 6' 2",(?), QB didn't see a 6"4" 320 NT drop into coverage. It was reported here that he ran the wrong pattern, I don't really know, but a critical call to a FR with about one catch at that time in the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Cam Coleman will be going to OU. Unless we way overspend to outbid them.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Anthony Evans was originally an OU commit under Lebby. Georgia outbid them late and he took the bag. The relationship was already built prior.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Craver is Bump's. Not gonna argue what happened on the way out or give 50/50 here. But Bump got us 1 year of Craver.
Coleman was Lebby. For argument sake - I'll give you half because I know you're going to argue it. So 1.5 seasons of good WR play in 3 years. Even rounding up to 2 years - that's anemic. 2 WR seasons with a good season in 3 years that he recruited. You need at minimum 2 seasons a year - ideally 3 to be competitive. He just wasn't producing, I'm sorry.
Give Kamario a big body that can roll like Coleman to throw to and overspending may be worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
This. It's amazing what one really good extra guy can do for you, especially when you consider your number one then becomes a number two and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Hutzler to Auburn as DE coach.
We better spend the majority up front, its hard to throw a pass laying on the turf.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Matt Holecek... Steve is saying something is happening there. Looks like he is gone.
Again, something we've hinted heavily at. I had heard that Kendall would be the hire. That didn't come to fruition, although I guess I should've just taken the info I got on the surface and not tried to infer.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
What I was told was, "Art has told Kendall his best way to get a HC job is get back into the SEC." I just assumed that meant us. I should've probably asked specifically about us. A few other TCU guys in DFW that I know thought the same as me so I really thought that's where this was heading. Oh well, missed on that one.
I really don't know who the hire will be. Phillip Montgomery makes a lot of sense due to previously coaching with Lebby at Baylor and being a part of that tree but I wouldn't be comfortable saying that's who we're targeting
Fwiw I independently did the same thing and reached the same conclusion. Looking at other folks reaction though I do think might have talked ourselves up a bit much on the Briles thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
For me - I just want an OC that Lebby can delegate some HC/OC responsibilities to.
That was where I was drawing my conclusions. I had reported all of that stuff about 5 hours after the Egg Bowl and had been talking to my TCU buddies in Dallas and the conclusion all of us came to was that from what they were hearing and reading between the lines, Kendall was going to be at State. One of them text me last night and said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
"Kendall just hitched his wagon to Shane 17 Beamer?!?!? At least Lebby is his brother in law and that one makes a little bit of sense."
Lol, the wrong route? The ball was intercepted by the DT. There's no route ran where that happens that's all on Shapen for hittinghim in the chest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Yeah anybody that thinks that wasn't on Shapen don't know ballQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I simply say 2 years under Lebby and the WR'S have not been the reasoning for any loss. Evaluations are finalized by the head coach who also scouts via film. Those so called poor scouting takes lay square on the head coaches shoulders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Or didn't watch the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Oh he did run the wrong route. That is supposed to be an option route. Still does not excuse Shapen for throwing it directly to the DE. Even if the receiver runs the correct route, the ball is still picked.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Thee corner squatted which is why the WR kept going which is what the WR & QB are taught. STILL ON SHAPEN.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Without a doubt still on Shapen. Which is why I said, "still does not excuse Shapen for throwing it directly to the DE."Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
He is probably thinking if he can ball out and let Beamer do Beamer he will be fired and then Kendall gets the USCE HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I guess. He also is probably thinking if he can make Lanorris Sellers look good then he can parlay that into an HC job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91