We just missed on an instate DT prospect to a school he hasn't even visited yet. If we have enough to compete in NIL, I'm very curious about our plans for DT recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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We just missed on an instate DT prospect to a school he hasn't even visited yet. If we have enough to compete in NIL, I'm very curious about our plans for DT recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I am pretty sure he just committed to them for NIL leverage, I would wait till he signs before really saying anything.
Turner is using his NIL funds to go after proven guys in college. DL, OL, QB, and WR is where you spend your portal funds. Gone are the days of HS recruiting unless they?re a sure fire prospect you shore up the contract for. Our NIL is not far from OM, a lot of big donors that prefer to keep a low profile are making moves behind the scenes. A lot more wealthy alumni out of state than what people give credit for..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
We also got behind in NIL because of Cohen and we've had to catch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Good to hear that it sounds like we are finally getting there.
Because we backed away. He measured in at 6'1. I'm not saying we dropped him, but we aren't in a hurry to take him right now. He could end up in the class still, we'll just have to see. Hardy is the big dog on our board but he's got an Alabama offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Anyone got an update or rumors on who we really want or is indeed trending to us? Looking at the list on Genespage shows only one player "warm" to us and he's "warmer" to OM. I miss Arie and IYOK (unless one of them was Cohen!). I know winning 6 or 7 this year will help us out along with a lot of $. Any info appreciated, Hail State! Especially worried about DL recruiting.
Yeah I dont believ that. Going after proven guys is great, but it will cost you more money because if they're worth a shit everyone else wants them too. I don't see this as an effective plan. Especially when we struggled to get pick overs for this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
So you?d rather pay an undersized DL who may not pan out rather than get a young guy out of portal? You do realize just because they sign out of HS they can renegotiate once their freshman year is up even if they aren?t as good as they think (Jeff Pittman)
There is no question that the portal changes how you manage a roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
I was looking at Ole Miss's depth chart and I noticed that two of their current starting d-linemen are in state players who initially signed with an out of state school including one who is from Oxford. Now, I'm not saying that's the path we should go down where we just let guys go out of state later but I did think it was interesting. And it does go to show that with the volatility in the college football world which we know all to well about things can change over the course of one offseason very quickly. You're doing good if you can keep a head coach for five years nowadays. Stability like that is why Ole Miss is where they are now or a big reason for it.
We weren't too competitive in the DL portal market in this last cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
I?m fully aware and have been very outspoken about Turner?s lack of effectiveness since coming back last year. I will say though his portal pulls are playing meaningful snaps, but they had to because of the transfers out. He is lucky that Williams, Russell, and Dinkins were recruited previously. He needs to pick it up. But no need in bidding on a player who or may not be a game changer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Hope we start winning and something is going on behind the scenes, as genespage does not show a single target "warm" to us on their entire list. Anyone know the names of any visitors for the Toledo game or any positive rumors?
That is never updated anymore. No one really looks at that. Cunningham is visiting this weekend. Mario Nash will be here. Kamario will be back again. Tylan Wilson(26 safety) will be in town. Lockhart will be in town. There's a bunch that will be in town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Rion is showing some eyes FWIW
Hire Pernell McPhee as DL Coach in December.
Fletcher cox
You can kiss Caleb Cunningham good bye. He was a long shot anyways but he definitely isn?t coming now.
Yup. He is not going to want to play in this and I do not blame him one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Don?t be surprised if Turner is not around after the year. A guy who doesn?t want anyone who wants ?NIL isn?t going to last. Seems they?ve already identified who they want. And there is also talks about bringing back another former player who currently coaches LB at a Big-12 school.
Sounds like Jamar Chaney.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Right now I'm not even sure our DL talent is G5 level. It's more on FCS level. Something has to change there when u have this much playing opportunity, have the reputation we do producing DL and still nobody wants to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Going to be some turnover on the staff. Lebby isn't going to sit on some of these guys that don't want to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
If there not working no need in waiting, cut bait now.
2 big 4 stars and we aren't done
Lockhart and Mitchell are big ass grabs!
Interesting phrasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Two big ass grabs for a defense that has been doing a lot of grab-assing lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Harbor
It looks like a lot of guys just running by the guy with the ball. Grabbing their ass would be an improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCdawg
Mitchell is close with Hurstzler........ he needs talent on the D side of the ball.
Three 4 star players this week (1 is a 2026)
The only way to get out of the vicious portal cycle is to sign HS talent and Juco bounce backs. Then you can pick and choose your portal instead of taking the left overs.
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Harbor
These commitments along with the donation is a nice booster shot in the ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
We really need all the off field good news we can get given the on field results we are going to experience this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Now is an ideal time to be a juco DLineman because that?s all David Turner is offering right now! Geez man?it?s embarrassing. Competing with UAB and Coastal for Juco kids is not good. The kid we took last year Sheppard, whom 34 and Bucky deemed ?NFL future?, looks overmatched on this level and yet we continue to offer some of the same type of kids.
We haven't offered a bad Juco DL this round. Not to say we won't but we've offer Hardy and Coleman and both a players. Henry is an edge guy that's a stud too. The problem is we don't have a single SEC caliber HS DL committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
We'll have to dole out the funds to keep Henry from what I'm hearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Hardy is in the boat
Top 25 class currently. Basically down to a few HS prospects but mostly portal and Juco. Juco class is stout and it needed to be, I think we'll see two more jucos in the boat soon. Portal is where we need to make hay!
So I did a brief scan through of the recruiting thread and it seems as if there's hope for Cunningham yet. What about Dear and Knight? Are we okay with not getting Knight since we have Taylor? Weird to see Notre Dame get one of the best players in the state, but maybe that's an area where NIL helps.
JUCO's all on defense I am assuming?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I would take Taylor over Deuce for our offense. He is pretty much the prototype for a Veer and Shoot scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
Cunningham I don't know. I would definitely like to take him. I wouldn't be surprised if we get Dear and Cunningham back in the portal if they go to Bama first. Much better chance at flipping Cunningham IMO especially if we perform well the second half of the season.