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12-04-2023, 12:39 PM
Quaoarsking

When was the last time a top 5 national QB only went 6-6 or less? It just doesn't happen.
12-04-2023, 12:42 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

When was the last time a top 5 national QB only went 6-6 or less? It just doesn't happen.

When was the last time a top 5 national QB was on a roster as bad as ours? Just saying, we do suck in a way that makes cross comparisons hard. Caleb Williams went 7-5 this year with far more star talent than we have
12-04-2023, 12:45 PM
msstate7

I really hope that Lebby doesn't just go all-in on offense with the NIL money.
12-04-2023, 12:46 PM
Quaoarsking

What would we have been in 2023 with Lebby and Gabriel? Pretty easily 8-4, right? And now we don't have to play Alabama or LSU next year.

I'm not guaranteeing that we'll be 8-4 next year, but it will be disappointing if we don't
12-04-2023, 12:48 PM
DesotoDog1967

Could there have already been at least talks between Lebby and Gabriel, or are we to believe a QB doesn't talk to his coach?
12-04-2023, 12:49 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I really hope that Lebby doesn't just go all-in on offense with the NIL money.

I'll agree with you there
12-04-2023, 12:53 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I really hope that Lebby doesn't just go all-in on offense with the NIL money.

This year we didn't have much of either. An offense maybe gets us two more wins.
12-04-2023, 12:56 PM
BorneDawg

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Gabriel is the perfect situation. Parsons is our future. Gives him a year to learn the system. Parsons is going to be a star. We are looking at finding a way this year to get to 6 wins. This does it.

This is the correct answer!
12-04-2023, 01:03 PM
msumudcat

Gabriel puts butts in the seats at DWS. He also will attract OL and WR talent that would otherwise not come to MSU. He more than pays for himself. Think of the overall ROI rather than just the expense.
12-04-2023, 01:09 PM
Quaoarsking

Without Gabriel - maybe we make a bowl
With Gabriel - definitely make a bowl, good chance to finish ranked, outside shot at the CFP

Obviously you do everything you can to land him. Everything. There's no such thing as overpaying
12-04-2023, 01:18 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Without Gabriel - maybe we make a bowl
With Gabriel - definitely make a bowl, good chance to finish ranked, outside shot at the CFP

Obviously you do everything you can to land him. Everything. There's no such thing as overpaying

Brother you need to back down those expectations, you have no what a huge mess our program is at the present. A QB a single player is not going to solve all the issues within.
12-04-2023, 01:19 PM
chef dixon

My best comparison would be Gabriel at State is like Rattler at USCe. We prob go 6-6 and he will have his moments
12-04-2023, 01:22 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Brother you need to back down those expectations, you have no what a huge mess our program is at the present. A QB a single player is not going to solve all the issues within.

We were 8-4 in 2022. Any halfway competent coach gets us to 8-4 in 2023. It's completely reasonable to think that with a massive upgrade at QB and hopefully at coach we can do 8-4 in 2024.
12-04-2023, 01:26 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

The criteria should be simple...
2 years of eligibility at least
Previous transfer

Why? Not following how any of that would be relevant
12-04-2023, 01:30 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Forget 6 wins. Anything less than 9-4 and ranked in the final poll is a huge disappointment if we can get Gabriel. And we know he and Lebby are going to aim even higher than that.

You are going to be very disappointed
12-04-2023, 01:36 PM
defiantdog

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

We were 8-4 in 2022. Any halfway competent coach gets us to 8-4 in 2023. It's completely reasonable to think that with a massive upgrade at QB and hopefully at coach we can do 8-4 in 2024.

We need massive upgrades in more than just qb
12-04-2023, 01:38 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coach34

You are going to be very disappointed

It's not like your prediction track record lately is going to faze me...
12-04-2023, 01:39 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

We need massive upgrades in more than just qb

Is a sentence people said in 2022 (when we finished ranked) and 2023 (when a halfway decent coach would have gotten us ranked)
12-04-2023, 01:56 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by msumudcat

Gabriel puts butts in the seats at DWS. He also will attract OL and WR talent that would otherwise not come to MSU. He more than pays for himself. Think of the overall ROI rather than just the expense.

Abso - freakin' -lutely!!!

Gabriel will make the Mizzou and Tennessee games competitive.

Gabriel makes a humdrum, barely mediocre rebuilding season into something a bit more special.

Lebby makes a splash his first year and the high school recruits and potential transfers will take notice.
12-04-2023, 01:59 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

When was the last time a top 5 national QB only went 6-6 or less? It just doesn't happen.

USC just went 7-5
UNC just went 8-4
South Carolina just went 5-7
Colorado just went 4-8

Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Spencer Rattler and Shedeur Sanders are all in the discussion for top 5 status, and went a combined .500.

I'm just saying, it happens.

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