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11-21-2023, 07:51 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm not exactly sure why so many MSU fans seem infatuated with Kendall Briles. At first I assumed it was because some fans thought that he could bring KJ Jefferson with him. His current OC is considered much better. I would be much more on board with Odom and Jeff Lebby honestly if I had to choose between Lebby and Briles.

Briles is a good OC. KJ fell off a cliff without him
11-21-2023, 08:11 AM
WPS

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Briles is a good OC. KJ fell off a cliff without him

He?s solid, only issue is his redzone offense is pretty bad but otherwise KJ was a perfect fit for him. Not sure why he?s had so many struggles at TCU but I know they?ve had some QB injuries.
11-21-2023, 08:30 AM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Man I would take either coach in Kansas in a red hot minute. Those two coaches are studs.

1. Klieman
2. Leipold
11-21-2023, 08:30 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by WPS

He?s solid, only issue is his redzone offense is pretty bad but otherwise KJ was a perfect fit for him. Not sure why he?s had so many struggles at TCU but I know they?ve had some QB injuries.

That's my assessment of him too. Solid but that's about it. I wouldn't hate having him but I also wouldn't sell off the farm to get him.
11-21-2023, 08:53 AM
DawgFromOxford

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

If we were to hire Odom I would prefer he bring his current oc with him. Ive watched probably 6-7 of their games this year and I like that offense

So what happens if we hire Odom and then his OC leaves after a year or 2? Doesn?t sound like there are a ton of guys out there who could run/coach his offensive style
11-21-2023, 08:54 AM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

Man, who would y?all choose between Chadwell, Leipold, or Kleiman? IMO, the 2 Kansas guys will be super hard pulls.

Kleiman

He's my #1 at the moment
11-21-2023, 08:57 AM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Coach34

From 2020:

https://247sports.com/longformarticl...82941/#1565577

You know that's revenue right? Not athletic budget...
11-21-2023, 08:59 AM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Jarius

People are going to look at his SEC time and be against it but he has reinvented himself at UNLV and running a totally different offensive scheme that is making a big difference in his success.

Then why doesn't he bring his current OC?
11-21-2023, 09:03 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Kleiman

He's my #1 at the moment

He is not coming. You need to remove him off your board.
11-21-2023, 09:12 AM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

You know that's revenue right? Not athletic budget...

If you want to know budgets, bookmark this page: https://knightnewhousedata.org/

And Liberty is private like Vandy and doesn't disclose their spending on athletics - so no one really knows.
11-21-2023, 09:13 AM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Jarius

They associate the name Briles with awesome offenses. None of them have probably ever heard of his current OC, who will run the most exciting offense we have ever had here. He goes up tempo A LOT and he marries the power run game with the air raid. It?s a mixture of what everyone here wants.

Damn, you've convinced me. Let's roll if he brings this guy with him.
11-21-2023, 09:19 AM
basedog

So, Hugh Freeze had it made and with all the money as some say, he bolted, so why would Liberty have so a huge buyout and contract for Chadwell, asking for a friend?
Liberty may have tons of money, but they will never be a strong powerhouse unless they get into a conference bigger than what they are in. Strong conferences are made from top to bottom, not just one or two good programs. Btw, so what the Ncaa expands the playoff teams, can't see Liberty being the next Bama. Plus I can't see Liberty having a TV interest like say the Sec or Big 10 programs.
11-21-2023, 09:21 AM
Turfdawg67

@BrunswickDawg... That is an amazing site! Thanks for sharing.

So MSU spent $29M on football in 2022 and Kansas spent $21M

ETA: $21M is the FBS median. So we are spending $8M more than your average FBS, including Kansas.
11-21-2023, 09:24 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We damn near get 2 every year with only 4 slots.

W no conference champion guarantee. That takes up almost half of the 12 now. Changes the numbers. And yeah most years we will get 3. Some 4 possibly. But it's not certain
11-21-2023, 09:27 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by basedog

So, Hugh Freeze had it made and with all the money as some say, he bolted, so why would Liberty have so a huge buyout and contract for Chadwell, asking for a friend?
Liberty may have tons of money, but they will never be a strong powerhouse unless they get into a conference bigger than what they are in. Strong conferences are made from top to bottom, not just one or two good programs. Btw, so what the Ncaa expands the playoff teams, can't see Liberty being the next Bama. Plus I can't see Liberty having a TV interest like say the Sec or Big 10 programs.

Because they knew that Freeze would bolt the second he built them up. But when he built them up they knew they needed to stay at that level. So they went out, hired a great HC, and made his buyout 8 figures so if someone really wanted him they would have to pay up and Liberty would have even more money to go get the next coach. They are protecting their valuable assets.
11-21-2023, 09:47 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Because they knew that Freeze would bolt the second he built them up. But when he built them up they knew they needed to stay at that level. So they went out, hired a great HC, and made his buyout 8 figures so if someone really wanted him they would have to pay up and Liberty would have even more money to go get the next coach. They are protecting their valuable assets.

Not disagreeing, point is can they keep a good Coach. Sec has way more to offer, and yes Msu can pay a good salary when needed. I do hear Chadwell is our #1 target, pretty sure he has so many days to decide then it's time to move to plan B if he says no. Also, not so sure about the buyout, I was told not even close to $12 Million but still a little high.
I learned a little about Herman also, he is not high on list.
11-21-2023, 09:48 AM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

@BrunswickDawg... That is an amazing site! Thanks for sharing.

So MSU spent $29M on football in 2022 and Kansas spent $21M

ETA: $21M is the FBS median. So we are spending $8M more than your average FBS, including Kansas.

The problem is that the SEC median is $47m .
11-21-2023, 09:50 AM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their athletic budget does not dwarf ours. Their athletic budget is literally half ours.

I read that and just started laughing. I don?t know where some of these people come up with this stuff
11-21-2023, 09:53 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by basedog

Not disagreeing, point is can they keep a good Coach. Sec has way more to offer, and yes Msu can pay a good salary when needed. I do hear Chadwell is our #1 target, pretty sure he has so many days to decide then it's time to move to plan B if he says no. Also, not so sure about the buyout, I was told not even close to $12 Million but still a little high.
I learned a little about Herman also, he is not high on list.

You are correct on both points. And we have a group of boosters that has already agreed to pony up for that buyout, which you are right is not near the 12 that was reported. And there is a time limit on that offer.
11-21-2023, 09:55 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by basedog

Not disagreeing, point is can they keep a good Coach. Sec has way more to offer, and yes Msu can pay a good salary when needed. I do hear Chadwell is our #1 target, pretty sure he has so many days to decide then it's time to move to plan B if he says no. Also, not so sure about the buyout, I was told not even close to $12 Million but still a little high.
I learned a little about Herman also, he is not high on list.

Nobody outside knows the actual buyout. There have been multiple reports published that speculated $12 MIL +. I've seen some say as low as $4 MIL but I never posted that as I've been told it's well above that. What's the actual number? The closest I've been told is that is 8 or close to 8 figures.

I've been saying Herman wasn't high on the list since before we actually fired CZA.

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