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11-05-2023, 08:51 PM
Activated Alpha

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Originally Posted by Coach34

yes we are. We need older players. We havent missed much on HS guys- we just didnt have the money required to be in the mix

As this year is a testament, we don't necessarily need "older" players. You have consistently shite all over our older players this year. So we actually need better players along with a better coaching staff...
11-05-2023, 08:54 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Im struggling to find reasons to let him finish the year out

I mean Selmon is already talking to agents and we have had Arnett on 3 or 4 hot seat articles because agents know he’s about to get fired. I don’t think it hurts to just let him finish it out so long as we are doing everything behind the scenes needed to make a fast hire.
11-05-2023, 08:59 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I mean Selmon is already talking to agents and we have had Arnett on 3 or 4 hot seat articles because agents know he’s about to get fired. I don’t think it hurts to just let him finish it out so long as we are doing everything behind the scenes needed to make a fast hire.

These kids would play better if we made the move now, but I get it
11-05-2023, 09:10 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I mean Selmon is already talking to agents and we have had Arnett on 3 or 4 hot seat articles because agents know he’s about to get fired. I don’t think it hurts to just let him finish it out so long as we are doing everything behind the scenes needed to make a fast hire.

Agree, it playing out already behind the scenes
11-05-2023, 09:41 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

We never had 25 receivers under Leach. We actually had LESS than what he inherited.

I counted our Spring training roster and went to the scrimmage. Some were walkons but we easily had 25 or so slot & Wr types on that roster.
11-05-2023, 09:46 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by parabrave

There will have to be4 a cap or something like a national slot allotment like baseball. Congress will be getting involved at some point in time

Saw an article on MSN lastweek that the judge handling the former players' suit against the NCAA has turned it into a class action suit. Damages could now be $4.2 billion to the former and current players if the NCAA loses. Also mentioned athletes in all college sports would be eligible for a cut of ticket sales, tv revenue, etc. This could take years through the courts but NIL could be nothing compared to this. Some of you lawyer types might can explain with more details. College football as we knew it is going the way of the DoDo bird.
11-05-2023, 09:49 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by Jarius

We are signing a small high school class because we missed on most of our big time recruits within the state. The JUCO guys we are about to get committed are nothing that?s going to move the recruiting needle in a positive direction and we will finish around 30-35 which is not good at all. It really isn?t debatable that we are recruiting exceptionally poorly at the moment. Our average ranking per commit is going to continually go down the more players we sign because we have no more big targets left on the board. That will probably change once Arnett gets fired in 3 weeks because we have something to sell and transfers will have a reason to actually give us a look.

Hope our new bunch of "older' players look better in this staff's O and D than our current older players if we stupidly give them a 2nd year.
11-05-2023, 09:51 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Agree, it playing out already behind the scenes

I hope so. I've been worried about Selmon. I hope he surprises me. Pull the trigger and make a damn home run hire.
11-06-2023, 12:07 AM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Are we 12th? Who are we above? Missouri? Vandy?

We are squarely middle of the pack. Instead of following the idiot over here, talk to Charlie Winfield and get the scoop.

We've had an extremely productive year in NIL. This narrative that we're way behind everyone else - particularly Ole Miss, is just that - a narrative. We're competitive with all the teams in our weight class - Kentucky, SC, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Mizzou, etc.
11-06-2023, 12:52 AM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Loser mentality.

I wonder, is MSU really 15th in NIL. How big is the MSU gap to 8th or even 14th.
11-06-2023, 08:19 AM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by confucius say

This thread is weak and pathetic.
And the OP is factually wrong. Bad take and making excuses for incompetence.
We don't need 10-15 million annually to compete in football and every coaching candidate knows that. That is one of the dumbest things I've heard in life. I hope he was kidding.
Do we need more? Of course. But OM is going to be in a NY6 bowl (twice in 3 years) and is not spending anywhere close to 10-15 million annually in football. Not even half of that. Just a horrible post.

My thing is, if NIL is the issue and this is now just the elimination of the bagman giving money to the players 5 or so years ago?..why is NIL the issue?

The money was being spent a few years ago under the table and now it?s above the table.

Then NIL is a moot point. We had better players then than now.
11-06-2023, 10:56 AM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Whoa now- our lack of talent is on Leach. Our recruiting this cycle on rank of player is 26th in the country- aka- not poor. Stop with the BS narratives

Like I was saying, recruiting is going exceptionally poor. Our best commit just dropped us as well. You want to come again with this BS or are we good here? Yea, that's what I thought.
11-06-2023, 07:48 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Like I was saying, recruiting is going exceptionally poor. Our best commit just dropped us as well. You want to come again with this BS or are we good here? Yea, that's what I thought.

Kids arent stupid and it damn sure isnt all about NIL. If you are offering a real sum of money to a HS kid just to get him to come you are a dummy anyway. No kid wants to come play for these guys. We have 3 coaches on the entire staff that kids can relate to
11-06-2023, 08:07 PM
dawgday166

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11-06-2023, 08:10 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Whoa now- our lack of talent is on Leach. Our recruiting this cycle on rank of player is 26th in the country- aka- not poor. Stop with the BS narratives

https://i.postimg.cc/sgX7r3Tf/MSU-Recruiting.png
11-06-2023, 09:09 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

We are squarely middle of the pack. Instead of following the idiot over here, talk to Charlie Winfield and get the scoop.

We've had an extremely productive year in NIL. This narrative that we're way behind everyone else - particularly Ole Miss, is just that - a narrative. We're competitive with all the teams in our weight class - Kentucky, SC, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Mizzou, etc.

When I talk portal- I mean hiring another 7-8 people that do evals like other schools have. That's part of the money for NIL. We are not anywhere near where other schools are at this point no matter what you try to spout here
11-06-2023, 09:53 PM
Jarius

We are currently ranked 46th in the country and last in the SEC in recruiting. This staff is toast.
11-07-2023, 10:10 AM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Coach34

When I talk portal- I mean hiring another 7-8 people that do evals like other schools have. That's part of the money for NIL. We are not anywhere near where other schools are at this point no matter what you try to spout here

Instead of spewing stuff from your ass on here, pick up the phone and call Charlie Winfield. He'll be happy to educate you.
11-07-2023, 10:25 AM
msudawg1200

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Instead of spewing stuff from your ass on here, pick up the phone and call Charlie Winfield. He'll be happy to educate you.

You know whatever Narcissist34 says is the truth because HE said so
11-07-2023, 10:35 AM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

You know whatever Narcissist34 says is the truth because HE said so

I'm not attacking him. I have no issues with him and like most of what he posts. But sometimes he jumps the shark. I get that he has a buddy on staff so he's carrying water. But he's throwing out hot takes in this thread like he was Stephen A. Smith on a three day bender. The two biggest whoppers are that we're 13th in the SEC in NIL and that we're prioritizing jucos over high school recruits because we need to get older. Stuff than anyone with a functioning brain wave knows is wrong. I encourage everyone to get the facts and not just run with message board narratives. Rosebowl destroyed what little access/credibility he had left during the OC search because of stuff like that.

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