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Originally Posted by msstate7

So does Georgia.
So does WKU
So does tulsa.

And all 3 of these have had pretty big drops offensively

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That's just massively wrong. UGA lost a crap ton of people included a 15 year starting QB. And he's completing 72% . They are ranked 13th in the nation on offense. That's not a massive drop off.


Tulsa has played the #8 ranked team and the 19th ranked teams. Sure thing, when 50% of your games as a AAC school is against top 20 teams, early stats will down. But there is a whole season. WKU in the same boat. They scored 4 less points on OSU than ND!

They also don't look lost on their blocking like we do.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I'm not an Air Raid guy at all. I just want a competent OC who isn't running his limited ass offense with players that have no business being on the roster at TE. It's not working. We've got the personnel from the AR. If you can't be flexible enough to get the best players out there, you suck. It is til game 4 to look remotely competent after sitting down with our QB to talk. Should've happen a month ago or more.

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Man, go on and preach! Truth!

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

That's just massively wrong. UGA lost a crap ton of people included a 15 year starting QB. And he's completing 72% . They are ranked 13th in the nation on offense. That's not a massive drop off.


Tulsa has played the #8 ranked team and the 19th ranked teams. Sure thing, when 50% of your games as a AAC school is against top 20 teams, early stats will down. But there is a whole season. WKU in the same boat. They scored 4 less points on OSU than ND!

They also don't look lost on their blocking like we do.

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Wku had 288 yds vs USA last week
Tulsa had 281 yds vs northern Illinois last week

As awful as we've been, we are ahead of both in total offense.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

That's just massively wrong. UGA lost a crap ton of people included a 15 year starting QB. And he's completing 72% . They are ranked 13th in the nation on offense. That's not a massive drop off.


Tulsa has played the #8 ranked team and the 19th ranked teams. Sure thing, when 50% of your games as a AAC school is against top 20 teams, early stats will down. But there is a whole season. WKU in the same boat. They scored 4 less points on OSU than ND!

They also don't look lost on their blocking like we do.

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Georgia has played Ball State, UT-Martin and UAB. They scored 24 on SC who we just laid 30 on. Georgia's O will not be what it was the last few seasons.

Tulsa will not be some offensive juggernaut this season no matter who they play

WK got to play the whole 2nd half against OSU's back-ups and still failed to score. ND didnt get that luxury.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Wku had 288 yds vs USA last week
Tulsa had 281 yds vs northern Illinois last week

As awful as we've been, we are ahead of both in total offense.

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Leach put 6 points on Bama last year. That'a pretty high bar to meet Saturday.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Wku had 288 yds vs USA last week
Tulsa had 281 yds vs northern Illinois last week

As awful as we've been, we are ahead of both in total offense.

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Picking just one game out of 12 to prove a point?
WKU averaging 367 yards per game, and that is with playing OSU. Who knows what type of let down they had the following week(last week).
We are averaging 388 yards per game , and against 3 teams with the weakest defenses we will face all season.

Where do you think we are headed in the month of October and November?
So by saying we are ahead of them.... it is by 21 yards a game, and we played 3 games against really bad defenses.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Leach put 6 points on Bama last year. That'a pretty high bar to meet Saturday.

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Leach won us 9 games with the same average QB as last season also.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Leach put 6 points on Bama last year. That'a pretty high bar to meet Saturday.

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And that's about all Leach ever scored against them. Only touchdown I believe??

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

And that's about all Leach ever scored against them. Only touchdown I believe??

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How many games and TDs have any MSU coach scored against Bama in 15 years, not including garbage time.

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Picking just one game out of 12 to prove a point?
WKU averaging 367 yards per game, and that is with playing OSU. Who knows what type of let down they had the following week(last week).
We are averaging 388 yards per game , and against 3 teams with the weakest defenses we will face all season.

Where do you think we are headed in the month of October and November?

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Throw out osu and wku is at 395.3 ypg, which would put them at 69th in the country. They were at 497.7 ypg (7th nationally) last year. Oh and that includes an fcs opponent. BTW, they played USA last year, and they got 677 total yards.

Are you really trying to see wku as anything but down offensively?

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Originally Posted by Santiago

How many games and TDs have any MSU coach scored against Bama in 15 years, not including garbage time.

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I would say we avg'd more than the previous 12 years than the last 3, which is 5.3 per game

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Leach won us 9 games with the same average QB as last season also.

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A) Leach won 8 games. Arnett coached the bowl game and got the 9th win.

B) Leach had Forbes (who scored 3 TD's for us), Wheat, and some good safeties that had us 7th in the SEC and 40th in the country last season. We dont have that this season.

C) As others have mentioned- 2 just had his best day as a QB this past Saturday. That terrible D of SC held Georgia to 24 points.

Defense is way more a problem for this football team than offense.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I would say we avg'd more than the previous 12 years than the last 3, which is 5.3 per game

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That is big time then ***
I saw stats from Robbie that the average margin of loss to Bama by us and Ole Miss is the same spread. Ole miss gave up more points to them each game but scored more. We scored less but gave up less.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Wku had 288 yds vs USA last week
Tulsa had 281 yds vs northern Illinois last week

As awful as we've been, we are ahead of both in total offense.

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That's not even the topic. You said they are having a massive drop off in offense. They are not. They simply played ranked teams who out recruit them by alot. They also have a New QB and RB at Tulsa. etc etc.

MS ST has the most returning starters and VET team we have had. If you can't teach the system, don't run it.

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Leach won us 9 games with the same average QB as last season also.

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Leach won 8 games last year. That defense bailed him out a lot. We don't have that defense now. The OL hasn't handled actually having to block people without a drop 8 looking at them. And let's be honest, they struggled blocking 3 and 4 guys routinely last few years in the AR. Leach played ball control and let his defense work. There were no big plays. Will had more big plays last week than in 3 years with Leach. Now, we've got no defensive talent and no OL and no TE. The AR would help some with the OL and getting the ball out. That's about it. We need our OC to show he can adjust. SC filled up the box and we burned them. When they stopped doing that, we stopped scoring. I'll stop there too.

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Originally Posted by Santiago

That is big time then ***
I saw stats from Robbie that the average margin of loss to Bama by us and Ole Miss is the same spread. Ole miss gave up more points to them each game but scored more. We scored less but gave up less.

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Surprising since the AR equals the field in talent

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Georgia has played Ball State, UT-Martin and UAB. They scored 24 on SC who we just laid 30 on. Georgia's O will not be what it was the last few seasons.

Tulsa will not be some offensive juggernaut this season no matter who they play

WK got to play the whole 2nd half against OSU's back-ups and still failed to score. ND didnt get that luxury.

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And has nothing to do with a change of OC but a change in QB and key players that either graduated. That's both UGA and Tulsa!

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Originally Posted by Coach34

A) Leach won 8 games. Arnett coached the bowl game and got the 9th win.

B) Leach had Forbes (who scored 3 TD's for us), Wheat, and some good safeties that had us 7th in the SEC and 40th in the country last season. We dont have that this season.

C) As others have mentioned- 2 just had his best day as a QB this past Saturday. That terrible D of SC held Georgia to 24 points.

Defense is way more a problem for this football team than offense.

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Defense is a problem but the offense is a big concern. We are averaging 388 yards per game and against the easiest stretch of teams of a 4 game stretch we will see all season. We are 126 in the nation in time of possession.....which Arnett used as an excuse of going against his public comments on not changing much.
Against Arizona they gifted us short field for an entire half and we could not do much with it.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Leach won 8 games last year. That defense bailed him out a lot. We don't have that defense now. The OL hasn't handled actually having to block people without a drop 8 looking at them. And let's be honest, they struggled blocking 3 and 4 guys routinely last few years in the AR. Leach played ball control and let his defense work. There were no big plays. Will had more big plays last week than in 3 years with Leach. Now, we've got no defensive talent and no OL and no TE. The AR would help some with the OL and getting the ball out. That's about it. We need our OC to show he can adjust. SC filled up the box and we burned them. When they stopped doing that, we stopped scoring. I'll stop there too.

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The OL has been a top 2 or 3 rated line in the SEC the past 2 years. Every advanced statistic showed they were one of the best teams in not allowing pressure or sacks considering how much they were pass blocking. But yeah sure all those stats are wrong. It's the same line basically with a bad OC and bad OL coaches.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

The OL has been a top 2 or 3 rated line in the SEC the past 2 years. Every advanced statistic showed they were one of the best teams in not allowing pressure or sacks considering how much they were pass blocking. But yeah sure all those stats are wrong. It's the same line basically with a bad OC and bad OL coaches.

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Do you think facing 3 dlinemen and rarely any blitzes could skew those stats?