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10-29-2022, 02:43 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Cohen getting out before Leach gets him fired.

If Cohen leaves this is probably true.

Then we can start the cycle all over again and hire someone like Napier ... so we can lose all our SEC games except Mizzou. And instead of losing to KY & LSU on the road, we can lose to them at home, like Napier.

I'm ready ... let's goooo!!
10-29-2022, 02:45 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

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If I tell my son that if he doesn?t have his room cleaned in one hour he will be grounded. I?m not accounting for the fact that a ****ing tornado would come and hit his room.

You're just digging yourself deeper. You'd be better off just admitting you're full of shit than trying to act like "a tornado destroys my house" is equivalent to the 30-40% chance the metrics give us to beat Georgia.
10-29-2022, 02:50 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I had one of my most epic meltdowns here on a bye week a few years back lol

Haha!!
10-29-2022, 02:51 PM
WhiskeyPirate

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

If Cohen leaves this is probably true.

Then we can start the cycle all over again and hire someone like Napier ... so we can lose all our SEC games except Mizzou. And instead of losing to KY & LSU on the road, we can lose to them at home, like Napier.

I'm ready ... let's goooo!!

Agree with your post. In every metric this is a bottom tier sec program, all the ingredients are there to sink down into the mire with vanderbilt and Missouri. The AD change relating to the coach is a logical conclusion as well. The difference here is Leach is going to coach next year, no matter the outcome of this year. Leach will win a lot of games next year, probably 9-10. He is extended until 2025. He isn’t going any where unless he decides to in all likelihood.
10-29-2022, 03:02 PM
Dawg2003

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Agree with your post. In every metric this is a bottom tier sec program, all the ingredients are there to sink down into the mire with vanderbilt and Missouri. The AD change relating to the coach is a logical conclusion as well. The difference here is Leach is going to coach next year, no matter the outcome of this year. Leach will win a lot of games next year, probably 9-10. He is extended until 2025. He isn’t going any where unless he decides to in all likelihood.

I laughed, but this is so true. People hate on Cohen and think that another AD could change things. I have doubts about that.
10-29-2022, 03:05 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Agree with your post. In every metric this is a bottom tier sec program, all the ingredients are there to sink down into the mire with vanderbilt and Missouri. The AD change relating to the coach is a logical conclusion as well. The difference here is Leach is going to coach next year, no matter the outcome of this year. Leach will win a lot of games next year, probably 9-10. He is extended until 2025. He isn?t going any where unless he decides to in all likelihood.

I'm ready! Let's do IT!!!
10-29-2022, 03:06 PM
Saltydog

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Returning starters don't mean the most talent in the SEC.

CHECKMATE.....
10-29-2022, 03:09 PM
vindastra

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

For all those that think Cohen stinks when it comes to football, go back and look at all the head coaches some of you wanted to hire over the last 5 years and where they all are now.

Also, check to see if you've increased or decreased your giving to our university or have contributed in any way to NIL.

Cohen has done a pretty good job. Lemonis won a championship. Soccer, softball, and volleyball have all been ranked in the Top 25 in the last year and are plying as good as they ever have. He fired Howland and I think made a solid hire in Jans. And Leach has been about as good as our history indicates a football coach will be.

Plus we have the premiere college baseball stadium in the country and are handling renovations at the Hump.

Not sure what else you all want from Cohen honestly.

No idea why people hate on Cohen here.

The Moorhead hire was universally hailed by everyone (there was even an article comparing Cohen's meticulous search vs what TN did at that time).

We are most likely going to hire some "experienced" AD that would be put us in a hole like how A&M or AU or FL are now. People really need to read the Rant to understand what other ADs are doing in the SEC.
10-29-2022, 03:11 PM
WhiskeyPirate

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'm ready! Let's do IT!!!

Then the pea brains will want to change coaches again in three years. The guys out there who can rebuild a small financially poor programs into solid middle of the pack programs are a very short list, more misses than hits. Cohen did his homework on Leach. Texas tech and WSU are basically Miss State, Texas tech probably a little stronger in relation to the big 12 and program history, WSU a little weaker.

Then you get in a financial hole, because you are a small financially disadvantaged program. You get locked in on a bad hire and you can’t get out of it, you are still paying buyouts with a,limited budget and can’t afford facility upgrades. This scenario plays out over and over with the doormat programs.

I think the people that really make these decisions know the reality.
10-29-2022, 03:13 PM
William Tecumsah Sherman

I?m shocked at this development. I can?t help but think Cohen believes State is toast in this NIL world and he is bolting.
10-29-2022, 03:14 PM
IMissJack

So are the ad?s the problem or Keenum? Legitimate question, does he give an AD the leeway to be more successful or not?
10-29-2022, 03:16 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Then the pea brains will want to change coaches again in three years. The guys out there who can rebuild a small financially poor programs into solid middle of the pack programs are a very short list, more misses than hits. Cohen did his homework on Leach. Texas tech and WSU are basically Miss State, Texas tech probably a little stronger in relation to the big 12 and program history, WSU a little weaker.

Then you get in a financial hole, because you are a small financially disadvantaged program. You get locked in on a bad hire and you can’t get out of it, you are still paying buyouts with a,limited budget and can’t afford facility upgrades. This scenario plays out over and over with the doormat programs.

I think the people that really make these decisions know the reality.

Yep. I'm ready to jump into the never ending cycle of hiring/firing every 3 years while paying buyouts to multiple coaches at the same time. Makes sense to me as to being the road to prosperity.
10-29-2022, 03:25 PM
DownwardDawg

We need more bye weeks. This thread has helped me through my workday today.
10-29-2022, 03:32 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Why do y'all want Cohen to leave?

I do think it would be good to have Byrne, Strick, and Cohen all as AD at other schools. They should look out for us more than others would.

I don?t have a strong opinion of him, but with all the animosity towards him, it?s not terrible for for him to leave while there is still goodwill. He and Stricklin will be voting their employers interests first, but when there is not a conflict, I would expect them to look out for us. Not sure if Byrne has any goodwill towards us, but if he does, that?s three allies plus Sankey. Again, not going to be biased in our favor or anything, but should at least be on the lookout against us getting screwed.
10-29-2022, 03:37 PM
CaptainObvious

My reason for telling Cohen to hit the road is not because I dislike the guy. It is because it looks exactly like the Striklin move. Interviewing with another SEC program. It stinks of disloyalty by an Alum. If he is making decisions based on what message board heroes think of him, that is another strike against him.

I just think his goal is to move to Alabama and run for Senate as a Progressive to counter Tubberville. 😂😂😂😂😂
10-29-2022, 03:37 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I don?t have a strong opinion of him, but with all the animosity towards him, it?s not terrible for for him to leave while there is still goodwill. He and Stricklin will be voting their employers interests first, but when there is not a conflict, I would expect them to look out for us. Not sure if Byrne has any goodwill towards us, but if he does, that?s three allies plus Sankey. Again, not going to be biased in our favor or anything, but should at least be on the lookout against us getting screwed.

I'm not getting where Byrne or Strickland helping us at all. Didn't stop Saban from hiring away 2 assistants after 2018. I don't see squarely called games against Bama either.
10-29-2022, 03:53 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'm not getting where Byrne or Strickland helping us at all. Didn't stop Saban from hiring away 2 assistants after 2018. I don't see squarely called games against Bama either.

When the SEC is figuring out who to give everyone as their 3 permanent opponents in the 16-team, 9-game format, I expect Florida, Auburn, and Alabama to all vote for a plan that gives us Ole Miss and Kentucky as 2 of our 3.

Obviously they're not going to put us in front of any of their current jobs, but they will do some little things to help us. Another example would be if a cowbell ban comes up for a vote again for whatever reason, I strongly expect all 3 of those to vote No.
10-29-2022, 03:55 PM
Eric Nies Grind Time

I can't believe people are melting down about this. I have a higher opinion of Cohen than many on this board, and even I don't think he will be very hard to replace with someone better.
10-29-2022, 03:57 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

When the SEC is figuring out who to give everyone as their 3 permanent opponents in the 16-team, 9-game format, I expect Florida, Auburn, and Alabama to all vote for a plan that gives us Ole Miss and Kentucky as 2 of our 3.

Obviously they're not going to put us in front of any of their current jobs, but they will do some little things to help us. Another example would be if a cowbell ban comes up for a vote again for whatever reason, I strongly expect all 3 of those to vote No.

I also haven't thought we got any kind of favorable scheduling either. Ole Miss gets much better scheduling than we do. JMO tho.
10-29-2022, 04:02 PM
msugolf

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

I can't believe people are melting down about this. I have a higher opinion of Cohen than many on this board, and even I don't think he will be very hard to replace with someone better.

It's because most people are pu**ies and are scared of their own shadow.

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