Rumor Mill Friday: 3 things I am hearing today...

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Originally Posted by smootness

? Franks is much more of a passer than a runner. He was never a good fit in Mullen's offense.

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So is Trask, even more so, and he did great with Mullen.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Agreed 3-3-5 sucks, AND it doesnt fit our personnel since we have recruited way better at DL than LB. 4-2-5 is perfect for us.

Moreover, Stongs Ds as a HC haven't been impressive at all. He failed to improve the D on either team.

So if he as HC hired mediocre coaches on the defensive staff, what makes anyone here happy hed hire the defensive staff if he was DC? He obviously doesnt have a good eye for coaching talent even on his side of the ball

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At Florida he was top 10 DC. But still not like Shoop's years (except TN and last year). Shoop's 3 Ds at Vandy that were like 18 to 21 over 3 years are about as impressive to me as his #1 & #2 Ds at MSU/PSU. And I agree on 4-2-5. In 2014 we kinda had that alignment cause Matt Wells was really a tweener LB/S.

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

Franks was actually playing really well this season until he got hurt.

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He was playing better & his completion percentage was up, but I've never watched him thought he was good player.

That being said, one thing I'm not going to do under the new regime is question Mike Leach about who our QB should be

We can question recruiting, are we RTGDF enough, & the defense, but questioning him about who the QB should be is about like questioning a heart surgeon on how to avoid the coronary arteries.

You just let them handle it

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

How would Strong compare with Shoop or Grantham? Also, how is his recruiting?

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Strong is a STUD when it comes to recruiting.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

He was playing better & his completion percentage was up, but I've never watched him thought he was good player.

That being said, one thing I'm not going to do under the new regime is question Mike Leach about who our QB should be

We can question recruiting, are we RTGDF enough, & the defense, but questioning him about who the QB should be is about like questioning a heart surgeon on how to avoid the coronary arteries.

You just let them handle it

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Coming off an injury also, think we can do better, quick fix with Franks doesn't ring the cowbell for me.

If franks wants to come here and we turn him down, it would be idiotic... well, unless we get a better transfer or franks wants a guaranteed starter promise.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

He was playing better & his completion percentage was up, but I've never watched him thought he was good player.

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Franks can be really good. or really freaking terrible.

Problem is he can be both in the same game.
And his low points are way worse (and more regular) than his high points.

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Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

Franks can be really good. or really freaking terrible.

Problem is he can be both in the same game.
And his low points are way worse (and more regular) than his high points.

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I would always be cautious of a transfer QB unless he was a really special player that the whole team would buy in that he would make them way better.

Every other position isn't that big a deal, but you can sure screw up a team on QB decisions. Sometimes even with QB's you already have.

The QB should be THE leader on the team. I don't care what you say, the QB sets the tone for the whole team.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If franks wants to come here and we turn him down, it would be idiotic... well, unless we get a better transfer or franks wants a guaranteed starter promise.

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I'm pretty confident our 3 (Shrader, madden, Rogers) will be very good. Not sure we need that 4h unless Mayden is out. Not saying Franks isn't good enough, but I didn't like his on field antics. Has the potential to be a cancer.

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Originally Posted by gravedigger

I'm pretty confident our 3 (Shrader, madden, Rogers) will be very good. Not sure we need that 4h unless Mayden is out. Not saying Franks isn't good enough, but I didn't like his on field antics. Has the potential to be a cancer.

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I thought mayden leaving was a done deal, thus why I said franks should be a certain take. If mayden isn't leaving, the decision becomes a decision

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If franks wants to come here and we turn him down, it would be idiotic... well, unless we get a better transfer or franks wants a guaranteed starter promise.

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All of our guys are learning a new system and need reps. I just dont see the need of a one year rental taking reps away from players who are long term and need it.

He had 4 qb's on the roster last year at WSU. I imagine he wants the same here.

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Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

Franks can be really good. or really freaking terrible.

Problem is he can be both in the same game.
And his low points are way worse (and more regular) than his high points.

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Not really sure what you can base that on. He had to learn a new system last year that didn't really fit his skill set, yet he still put up solid numbers as a soph. He was 7th in the sec in passer rating last season, and was off to an even better rating this year before he got hurt. Systems that fit the qb skill set matter... take a look at burrow last year vs this year. Burrow's passer rating (12th in sec) was 10 points lower than franks' last year. Putting a QB in a position to succeed can make a world of difference. Mullen thinking that system is leach's carries a ton of weight with me. Now we'll see what leach thinks, which ultimately is the only opinion other than franks that matters anyway

We really need 4 QB’s. Injuries and more arms to work more receivers in drills. Leach likes to run the 4 QB drill throwing to all 4 receivers at the same time. Get more repetitions that way. Trust Leach to make the right offensive calls. The guy knows more about the offensive side of the ball than everyone on this board combined! No offense.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Not really sure what you can base that on. He had to learn a new system last year that didn't really fit his skill set, yet he still put up solid numbers as a soph. He was 7th in the sec in passer rating last season, and was off to an even better rating this year before he got hurt. Systems that fit the qb skill set matter... take a look at burrow last year vs this year. Burrow's passer rating (12th in sec) was 10 points lower than franks' last year. Putting a QB in a position to succeed can make a world of difference. Mullen thinking that system is leach's carries a ton of weight with me. Now we'll see what leach thinks, which ultimately is the only opinion other than franks that matters anyway

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Franks was also the 5th best Pro style QB in the country out of high school. He has a lot of talent that Mullen's system didn't fit that great. Think how much better Tyler Russell would fit Leach's system compared to Mullen's.

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Originally Posted by Behrdawg

Strong is a STUD when it comes to recruiting.

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Well why didn't he win more games?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I thought mayden leaving was a done deal, thus why I said franks should be a certain take. If mayden isn't leaving, the decision becomes a decision

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Mayden leaving was never a done deal. It was just an assumption based off an assumption. There was never any serious buzz about him leaving.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Well why didn't he win more games?

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You can be a very good coordinator & not a good HC. See: Joe Moorhead Exhibit A.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

You can be a very good coordinator & not a good HC. See: Joe Moorhead Exhibit A.

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I understand but Strong is known as a defensive guy, maybe you know more than I but on paper I doesn't look good. Strong was a DC years ago, I think he is more of a gamble than say Shoop.

How you been, I will PM u in a few days, can't wait for baseball to get here, LOL!

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Originally Posted by AlSwearengen

Franks was good at running but struggled mightily with accuracy and decision making in the games that I saw.

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Franks was completing 76% of his passes when he got hurt last year