Well then we don’t have a problem because the coaching community today see the issues with the team from the coaching aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
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Well then we don’t have a problem because the coaching community today see the issues with the team from the coaching aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Go back to your ashram Gandhi. That's stupid as ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
It's been done before, and Cohen, or the President, most likely won't be who pulls the trigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Yup. And it won't be the same way we checked the temperature for the head baseball coach position. We will have a verbal understanding with a trustworthy agent with at least the details of total salary and guarantee included. Presumably also at least some discussion around other big ticket items like budget for assistants or whatever the agent/prospect thinks are important points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
No it's not. That's how we wound up with Rick Ray. It's how ole miss wound up with Coach O 1.0. It's how a lot of really bad hires are made.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
LOL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
You really think coaches are that stupid?
"Oh no, Joe Moorhead underachieved for two years with a stacked cupboard and nine years of a solid coaching foundation! How can I hope to do better with such resources?!!!". SAID NO COACH EVER!!!!
If the rumors are true we've had head coaches reaching out to us since the Tennessee fiasco. They know what Joe's putting on that field is not the best this program can produce. Not by a long shot.
That isn't the point. Not at all. It's if we perceived as being to trigger happy for what we are that matters. FSU can get away with it. Arkansas has a historically bad team for them. Our situation is not like either of those. We have people SAYING our situation is like Arkansas, but its not, not even close. We had people wanting to fire Joe LAST year. That was noticed for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
It has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with how they perceive OUR expectations and how patient we are. We aren't some blue blood. No matter how much we say that doesn't matter, it does. Where did you get your rumors?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Let me let you in on a little secret, the president is the one working with the boosters. No one is sitting bracket wringing their hands here wondering what if. After the last 3 major hires by this athletic administration they have a short leash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Some of the rumors came from people on this board. And not Shotgun. If the media is all in agreement that Joe is a dud then we have ZERO to worry about with other coaches. This timid, woe is me bullshit is why we got Ray. Which, btw, there are plenty of rumors of other coaches wanting the job when we hired Ray. We royally screwed the pooch on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Of course he is, but who calls the shot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Yes, there were plenty of rumors like that when we hired Ray. I saw them on Ole Miss boards when the wound up with O 1.0. That's EXACTLY my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Okay. Whatever. I'm out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
If the coaching community does not see us possible making a move this year as a negative, then there is no point because they don’t perceive us as being impatient. You specifically said the coaches having an issue with it, but they don’t. Many see and have stated we have coaching issues. We have multiple coaches already reaching out to us. Now can or will we fire him at 6-6? That’s a tougher question but as of today the coaching community, who you referenced as being the ones to be concerned with perception, do NOT have a negative opinion of us if we cut ties. To be honest, all indications are our coaching pool of candidates today will be the exact same if we finish 6-6 and fire him. Other than they possibly taking a job the prefer. The coaching community as a whole only see a negative with our coaching NOT if we make a change this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
So do you think guys that want this job will turn us down because we expect for a coaching staff to actually be prepared for 13 Saturdays a year? UK game in 2018 and the UT game in 2019, it was really obvious that the team was not in any form prepared to take that field. Guys who understand football would know better than the average joe on a message board how shitastic of a job that Joe is doing. It was so obvious after the UT game that Moorhead apologized for how shitty of a coaching job he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
It seems that our expectations are that the team actually give a shit from the beginning of the game to the end of the game and right now that is not happening. Hell, we gave Croom 5 years because at least he had our players give effort out there.
Really? You need that spelled out for you? Not John Cohen is that enough. I’m not going any deeper, other than to say if he wins 6 he stays we can’t touch him we would look like shit on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
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Originally Posted by wild_dawg
Can anyone that knows that is willing to do so, throw out the names of just who has contacted us as being interested if the job becomes available? Gotta figure Napier is one of them, but who else other than him is reaching out to us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I've heard Hud, Napier, and Norvell FWIW. Not claiming to be any kind of inside expert. It's just the names I've been told and have seen reports of contacting us.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
Norvall’s agent has. I’ve heard of 3 others, one kind of surprising, but not enough info to name them and they may have just been initial intel feelers or falseQuote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19