Quick Thoughts - JOMO Has To Go

Next year is the year that will tell the tale on Moorhead to me. Tutorgate won't be a factor, Schrader will be a full year into the system, and Shoop and co. will have had a 2nd year to rebuild the defense that lost a TON of talent from last year. And hopefully Kylin will come back. Today's game should have been won but TS was just not playing winning football today and GS is just not ready yet. Tommy was overthrowing everything for INTs and then fumbling the ball away running with it like a loaf of bread. The biggest factor that kept us in things today was 2 punt return fumbles by KSU and a fumble back to us after a TS INT. As for Garrett, he is just not ready yet. He is a gamer but he is getting confused and just giving up on too many reads and running even when the yardage situation doesn't call for it. For example, trying to run for 4th and 16 was just a panic thing for him and then on the very last possession with almost no time on the clock he was STILL taking off and running. Given all the current negatives I'm willing to stay behind Joe for one more year to see what happens. I mean, he is going to get AT LEAST 3 years regardless unless something unforseen happens. I'll admit though that what we have seen on the field through a season and 3 games does not inspire.

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Originally Posted by IMissJack

It was a terrible hire. We are a SEC program that had clawed our way out of the cellar and our AD killed all of that to save some dough. Now the losses to the program are going to be huge and hiring a coach would look cheap.

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Who could we have hired instead.. You rather have Jeremy Pruitt ?

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

Who could we have hired instead.. You rather have Jeremy Pruitt ?

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I imagine we could've gotten Satterfield or Klieman. But on paper Joe did look like a pretty good hire.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Again, where is the pride? Why aren't they pissed? This is what a broken culture looks like.

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Are you freaking serious? Do you really want our players to call out other players or coaches ON SOCIAL MEDIA? that would truly show A BROKEN CULTURE.

Goodness you are melting harder than ever lately..

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

Are you freaking serious? Do you really want our players to call out other players or coaches ON SOCIAL MEDIA? that would truly show A BROKEN CULTURE.

Goodness you are melting harder than ever lately..

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Yep. Heaven forbid a player tweeting that he wants to work hard this week to get better and that he loves his teammates. He should probably be benched for such a horrendous tweet.****

What exactly has he done to deserve anything?

The fact that we were even considering Pruitt shows that we aren?t far off from Tennessee. Cohen had to prove how smart he was and how planned he was for this hire.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Moorhead will be the best thing Ms ST has seen.

PERIOD.

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I'm not sure why you're choosing to die on the Moorhead hill, but it's only making you look silly at this point. You've been talking up this team for months (EVEN WHEN KNOWING ABOUT SUSPENSIONS), and now you're going to come on here after that 3 ring circus today and try to use suspensions as an excuse and tell us Joe will be the best thing that ever happened to MSU??! Good luck with that.

I knew the guy was a clown when he lost to Florida...knew it even more when we got that undisciplined mind thumping against UK, and then the exclamation with the Iowa bed shitting....all with the #1 D in the country. But folks like you told me I was crazy and needed to let him "get his QB". Well, I decided to be positive and optimistic and see what he could do, and the result is us looking like Sly and Woody's short bus brigade out there today.

If you have football knowledge and a pair of functioning eyeballs in your skull, you saw enough today to know that this guy IS NOT IT. Period. So we can keep playing this "give him time" BS and completely rebuild this bastard from the cellar up in 3 years, OR we can demand Cohen fix his screw up or follow him out the door when he finally does go. I for one am not interested in watching this awful product as we circle the drain for 2-3 more years. The fans deserve better and the players deserve better. Watching us waste Kylin this year the way we wasted Simmons, Sweat, and Abram last year, is about all I can take. Joe has done nothing to deserve the loyalty of us allowing him to tear apart everything Mullen and this program built over the last 10 years. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would put him above this program at this point, it's odd to me. But whatever.

And Joey Jones should have a For Sale sign in his yard tonight, because I've seen better special teams play and tackling on a Junior High field than I saw today out of his group.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm not sure why you're choosing to die on the Moorhead hill, but it's only making you look silly at this point. You've been talking up this team for months (EVEN WHEN KNOWING ABOUT SUSPENSIONS), and now you're going to come on here after that 3 ring circus today and try to use suspensions as an excuse and tell us Joe will be the best thing that ever happened to MSU??! Good luck with that.

I knew the guy was a clown when he lost to Florida...knew it even more when we got that undisciplined mind thumping against UK, and then the exclamation with the Iowa bed shitting....all with the #1 D in the country. But folks like you told me I was crazy and needed to let him "get his QB". Well, I decided to be positive and optimistic and see what he could do, and the result is us looking like Sly and Woody's short bus brigade out there today.

If you have football knowledge and a pair of functioning eyeballs in your skull, you saw enough today to know that this guy IS NOT IT. Period. So we can keep playing this "give him time" BS and completely rebuild this bastard from the cellar up in 3 years, OR we can demand Cohen fix his screw up or follow him out the door when he finally does go. I for one am not interested in watching this awful product as we circle the drain for 2-3 more years. The fans deserve better and the players deserve better. Watching us waste Kylin this year the way we wasted Simmons, Sweat, and Abram last year, is about all I can take. Joe has done nothing to deserve the loyalty of us allowing him to tear apart everything Mullen and this program built over the last 10 years. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would put him above this program at this point, it's odd to me. But whatever.

And Joey Jones should have a For Sale sign in his yard tonight, because I've seen better special teams play and tackling on a Junior High field than I saw today out of his group.

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Only rainbows and unicorns related Jo posts allowed here. BTW, I was there for the entire game and was disgusted. Also watched his press conference and his lack of fire almost put me to sleep, but heck, it's late. BTW, if Joey Jones positioned the "For Sale" sign as poorly as he does our special team players, no one would ever see it! Hail State, but we have multiple problems!

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm not sure why you're choosing to die on the Moorhead hill, but it's only making you look silly at this point. You've been talking up this team for months (EVEN WHEN KNOWING ABOUT SUSPENSIONS), and now you're going to come on here after that 3 ring circus today and try to use suspensions as an excuse and tell us Joe will be the best thing that ever happened to MSU??! Good luck with that.

I knew the guy was a clown when he lost to Florida...knew it even more when we got that undisciplined mind thumping against UK, and then the exclamation with the Iowa bed shitting....all with the #1 D in the country. But folks like you told me I was crazy and needed to let him "get his QB". Well, I decided to be positive and optimistic and see what he could do, and the result is us looking like Sly and Woody's short bus brigade out there today.

If you have football knowledge and a pair of functioning eyeballs in your skull, you saw enough today to know that this guy IS NOT IT. Period. So we can keep playing this "give him time" BS and completely rebuild this bastard from the cellar up in 3 years, OR we can demand Cohen fix his screw up or follow him out the door when he finally does go. I for one am not interested in watching this awful product as we circle the drain for 2-3 more years. The fans deserve better and the players deserve better. Watching us waste Kylin this year the way we wasted Simmons, Sweat, and Abram last year, is about all I can take. Joe has done nothing to deserve the loyalty of us allowing him to tear apart everything Mullen and this program built over the last 10 years. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would put him above this program at this point, it's odd to me. But whatever.

And Joey Jones should have a For Sale sign in his yard tonight, because I've seen better special teams play and tackling on a Junior High field than I saw today out of his group.

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This! Bravo good sir! Sick of this crap! We want to see good football and not excuses!

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

Are you freaking serious? Do you really want our players to call out other players or coaches ON SOCIAL MEDIA? that would truly show A BROKEN CULTURE.

Goodness you are melting harder than ever lately..

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Hell, didn't Guidry call out our HC at halftime last year?

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Next year is the year that will tell the tale on Moorhead to me. Tutorgate won't be a factor, Schrader will be a full year into the system, and Shoop and co. will have had a 2nd year to rebuild the defense that lost a TON of talent from last year. And hopefully Kylin will come back. Today's game should have been won but TS was just not playing winning football today and GS is just not ready yet. Tommy was overthrowing everything for INTs and then fumbling the ball away running with it like a loaf of bread. The biggest factor that kept us in things today was 2 punt return fumbles by KSU and a fumble back to us after a TS INT. As for Garrett, he is just not ready yet. He is a gamer but he is getting confused and just giving up on too many reads and running even when the yardage situation doesn't call for it. For example, trying to run for 4th and 16 was just a panic thing for him and then on the very last possession with almost no time on the clock he was STILL taking off and running. Given all the current negatives I'm willing to stay behind Joe for one more year to see what happens. I mean, he is going to get AT LEAST 3 years regardless unless something unforseen happens. I'll admit though that what we have seen on the field through a season and 3 games does not inspire.

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If you need another season to tell dumbass is over his head your a dumbass also.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Next year is the year that will tell the tale on Moorhead to me. Tutorgate won't be a factor, Schrader will be a full year into the system, and Shoop and co. will have had a 2nd year to rebuild the defense that lost a TON of talent from last year. And hopefully Kylin will come back. Today's game should have been won but TS was just not playing winning football today and GS is just not ready yet. Tommy was overthrowing everything for INTs and then fumbling the ball away running with it like a loaf of bread. The biggest factor that kept us in things today was 2 punt return fumbles by KSU and a fumble back to us after a TS INT. As for Garrett, he is just not ready yet. He is a gamer but he is getting confused and just giving up on too many reads and running even when the yardage situation doesn't call for it. For example, trying to run for 4th and 16 was just a panic thing for him and then on the very last possession with almost no time on the clock he was STILL taking off and running. Given all the current negatives I'm willing to stay behind Joe for one more year to see what happens. I mean, he is going to get AT LEAST 3 years regardless unless something unforseen happens. I'll admit though that what we have seen on the field through a season and 3 games does not inspire.

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Unless Hill gets hurt, He gone.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm not sure why you're choosing to die on the Moorhead hill, but it's only making you look silly at this point. You've been talking up this team for months (EVEN WHEN KNOWING ABOUT SUSPENSIONS), and now you're going to come on here after that 3 ring circus today and try to use suspensions as an excuse and tell us Joe will be the best thing that ever happened to MSU??! Good luck with that.

I knew the guy was a clown when he lost to Florida...knew it even more when we got that undisciplined mind thumping against UK, and then the exclamation with the Iowa bed shitting....all with the #1 D in the country. But folks like you told me I was crazy and needed to let him "get his QB". Well, I decided to be positive and optimistic and see what he could do, and the result is us looking like Sly and Woody's short bus brigade out there today.

If you have football knowledge and a pair of functioning eyeballs in your skull, you saw enough today to know that this guy IS NOT IT. Period. So we can keep playing this "give him time" BS and completely rebuild this bastard from the cellar up in 3 years, OR we can demand Cohen fix his screw up or follow him out the door when he finally does go. I for one am not interested in watching this awful product as we circle the drain for 2-3 more years. The fans deserve better and the players deserve better. Watching us waste Kylin this year the way we wasted Simmons, Sweat, and Abram last year, is about all I can take. Joe has done nothing to deserve the loyalty of us allowing him to tear apart everything Mullen and this program built over the last 10 years. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would put him above this program at this point, it's odd to me. But whatever.

And Joey Jones should have a For Sale sign in his yard tonight, because I've seen better special teams play and tackling on a Junior High field than I saw today out of his group.

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Outstanding sir, simply outstanding!

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm not sure why you're choosing to die on the Moorhead hill, but it's only making you look silly at this point. You've been talking up this team for months (EVEN WHEN KNOWING ABOUT SUSPENSIONS), and now you're going to come on here after that 3 ring circus today and try to use suspensions as an excuse and tell us Joe will be the best thing that ever happened to MSU??! Good luck with that.

I knew the guy was a clown when he lost to Florida...knew it even more when we got that undisciplined mind thumping against UK, and then the exclamation with the Iowa bed shitting....all with the #1 D in the country. But folks like you told me I was crazy and needed to let him "get his QB". Well, I decided to be positive and optimistic and see what he could do, and the result is us looking like Sly and Woody's short bus brigade out there today.

If you have football knowledge and a pair of functioning eyeballs in your skull, you saw enough today to know that this guy IS NOT IT. Period. So we can keep playing this "give him time" BS and completely rebuild this bastard from the cellar up in 3 years, OR we can demand Cohen fix his screw up or follow him out the door when he finally does go. I for one am not interested in watching this awful product as we circle the drain for 2-3 more years. The fans deserve better and the players deserve better. Watching us waste Kylin this year the way we wasted Simmons, Sweat, and Abram last year, is about all I can take. Joe has done nothing to deserve the loyalty of us allowing him to tear apart everything Mullen and this program built over the last 10 years. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would put him above this program at this point, it's odd to me. But whatever.

And Joey Jones should have a For Sale sign in his yard tonight, because I've seen better special teams play and tackling on a Junior High field than I saw today out of his group.

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Completely agree. Good post.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm not sure why you're choosing to die on the Moorhead hill, but it's only making you look silly at this point. You've been talking up this team for months (EVEN WHEN KNOWING ABOUT SUSPENSIONS), and now you're going to come on here after that 3 ring circus today and try to use suspensions as an excuse and tell us Joe will be the best thing that ever happened to MSU??! Good luck with that.

I knew the guy was a clown when he lost to Florida...knew it even more when we got that undisciplined mind thumping against UK, and then the exclamation with the Iowa bed shitting....all with the #1 D in the country. But folks like you told me I was crazy and needed to let him "get his QB". Well, I decided to be positive and optimistic and see what he could do, and the result is us looking like Sly and Woody's short bus brigade out there today.

If you have football knowledge and a pair of functioning eyeballs in your skull, you saw enough today to know that this guy IS NOT IT. Period. So we can keep playing this "give him time" BS and completely rebuild this bastard from the cellar up in 3 years, OR we can demand Cohen fix his screw up or follow him out the door when he finally does go. I for one am not interested in watching this awful product as we circle the drain for 2-3 more years. The fans deserve better and the players deserve better. Watching us waste Kylin this year the way we wasted Simmons, Sweat, and Abram last year, is about all I can take. Joe has done nothing to deserve the loyalty of us allowing him to tear apart everything Mullen and this program built over the last 10 years. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would put him above this program at this point, it's odd to me. But whatever.

And Joey Jones should have a For Sale sign in his yard tonight, because I've seen better special teams play and tackling on a Junior High field than I saw today out of his group.

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I agree 100%, question is if we only get 2-3 more wins this year (my best guess) do we dump this clownshow at the end of the year?

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Next year is the year that will tell the tale on Moorhead to me. Tutorgate won't be a factor, Schrader will be a full year into the system, and Shoop and co. will have had a 2nd year to rebuild the defense that lost a TON of talent from last year. And hopefully Kylin will come back. Today's game should have been won but TS was just not playing winning football today and GS is just not ready yet. Tommy was overthrowing everything for INTs and then fumbling the ball away running with it like a loaf of bread. The biggest factor that kept us in things today was 2 punt return fumbles by KSU and a fumble back to us after a TS INT. As for Garrett, he is just not ready yet. He is a gamer but he is getting confused and just giving up on too many reads and running even when the yardage situation doesn't call for it. For example, trying to run for 4th and 16 was just a panic thing for him and then on the very last possession with almost no time on the clock he was STILL taking off and running. Given all the current negatives I'm willing to stay behind Joe for one more year to see what happens. I mean, he is going to get AT LEAST 3 years regardless unless something unforseen happens. I'll admit though that what we have seen on the field through a season and 3 games does not inspire.

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I disagree that we should have won the game yesterday. They dominated the OL and DL on the LOS. They had pass receivers wide open with nobody near them, and their backs were running though our DL like croton oil through a widow woman. We were lucky keeping the game as close as we did, due to their fumble and late hit on Stevens. I knew the game was lost when the game was tied 24-24, they punted and we had the ball on our 5. We run Hill up the middle twice for short gains, throw an incomplete pass and have to punt, giving them good field position. They had no trouble moving the ball down the field and scoring.

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Originally Posted by redstickdawg

I agree 100%, question is if we only get 2-3 more wins this year (my best guess) do we dump this clownshow at the end of the year?

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If Cohen is who he says he is....yes. So I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

Are you freaking serious? Do you really want our players to call out other players or coaches ON SOCIAL MEDIA? that would truly show A BROKEN CULTURE.

Goodness you are melting harder than ever lately..

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+1

I understand the frustration we're having but we don't need to over analyze absolutely everything construably connected to a disappointment like this. And especially before sleeping off the beverage of the day and taking some time to calm down.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This is the culture Jomo has instituted. I love Kylin, but this is bullshit. This isn't leadership, this is enabling.

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That is absolutely leadership. Would you rather him get on there and air out dirty laundry for the entire world to see? Or get on there and bitch about playcalling?

Negativity is usually never the answer to shit. Constructive criticism and calling someone out behind closed doors is. Twitter isnt behind closed doors. Drink a beer man I know you wanna win but this is an overeaction