We All Underestimated How Good Mullen Was

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09-30-2018, 12:52 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

You are going to be disappointed. He will win at least the SEC there.

Hahahaha you think Mullen is gonna get to Atlanta and beat Bama. No that is never happening. Saban coaching till he's 140 is more likely than that.
09-30-2018, 12:55 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Hahahaha you think Mullen is gonna get to Atlanta and beat Bama. No that is never happening. Saban coaching till he's 140 is more likely than that.

He won't beat Saban, but Saban won't be there that much longer. He will get to Atlanta at Florida if they for once allow a rebuild to happen. That was a BAD football team last year.
09-30-2018, 01:26 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

He won't beat Saban, but Saban won't be there that much longer. He will get to Atlanta at Florida if they for once allow a rebuild to happen. That was a BAD football team last year.

Mullen will be lucky to go 8-4 this year. 7-5 is possible if FSU figures it out by the end of the year. He ain't beating UGA, LSU or Mizzou.
09-30-2018, 01:33 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

You are going to be disappointed. He will win at least the SEC there.

If Mullen wins the SEC at UF I will never post again
09-30-2018, 01:43 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Mullen will be lucky to go 8-4 this year. 7-5 is possible if FSU figures it out by the end of the year. He ain't beating UGA, LSU or Mizzou.

Both of which would be a dramatic improvement.
09-30-2018, 01:53 PM
Bothrops

Yes, Mullen was mostly good, but he gone. It's not like we ran him off, he left because he wanted to. We did what we had to do from there and that's make a hire from a small group of candidates.
09-30-2018, 02:33 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Both of which would be a dramatic improvement.

From an interim coach not from McElwain it isn't.
09-30-2018, 03:18 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

From an interim coach not from McElwain it isn't.

It is an improvement from last year. I know that upsets you.
09-30-2018, 03:38 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Wait? He publicly announced he was interviewing with other schools?

He never denied that he was looking around when he was asked. He said "If a better opportunity comes along you have to look at it."

Also see my post below.
09-30-2018, 03:45 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

So there were cameras at the interviews were there? Mullen said so too? Got a link. This is hilarious.

"I'm not talking about any of that," Mullen said, via the Clarion Ledger. "Every year I come here, every single year, you guys ask me the same questions. I'm not going to waste my time commenting on rumors on the Internet."

https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/..._mullen_8.html

By not talking about it he basically left the door open that he could leave. This comment alone hurt us in recruiting for two years- and this was the same offseason we lost Lashley and AJ Brown FWIW.
09-30-2018, 04:30 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

It is an improvement from last year. I know that upsets you.

Not at all. I never said he wouldn't do better than an interim.
09-30-2018, 04:48 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

"I'm not talking about any of that," Mullen said, via the Clarion Ledger. "Every year I come here, every single year, you guys ask me the same questions. I'm not going to waste my time commenting on rumors on the Internet."

https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/..._mullen_8.html

By not talking about it he basically left the door open that he could leave. This comment alone hurt us in recruiting for two years- and this was the same offseason we lost Lashley and AJ Brown FWIW.

Outside media even applauded his response to job rumors

https://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...-rumors-112315

Even late this past season his response was on target

http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/c...out-other-jobs

He answered those rumors as well as any other sitting HC, and those responses are what?s public. Sorry but you are stretching the public addressing of jobs being an issue
09-30-2018, 04:52 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Outside media even applauded his response to job rumors

https://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...-rumors-112315

He answered those rumors as well as any other sitting HC, and those responses are what’s public

Are you telling me that my link from an Alabama newspaper quoting Dan from the Clarion-Ledger isn't "public"?

He did start to answer that question better after he hired Sexton- but of course that was AFTER my article and by then the damage was done to the point where no one outside of the delusional like Liverpool actually believed it.
09-30-2018, 05:03 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Are you telling me that my link from an Alabama newspaper quoting Dan from the Clarion-Ledger isn't "public"?

He did start to answer that question better after he hired Sexton- but of course that was AFTER my article and by then the damage was done to the point where no one outside of the delusional like Liverpool actually believed it.

The Fox article I linked was Before the article you linked. And if that was your idea of an indictment of how he should talk about job rumors, completely disagree that his comments meant he was publicly looking at other jobs. Did not get that at all.
10-01-2018, 01:32 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

"I'm not talking about any of that," Mullen said, via the Clarion Ledger. "Every year I come here, every single year, you guys ask me the same questions. I'm not going to waste my time commenting on rumors on the Internet."

https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/..._mullen_8.html

By not talking about it he basically left the door open that he could leave. This comment alone hurt us in recruiting for two years- and this was the same offseason we lost Lashley and AJ Brown FWIW.

That is not saying "HEY!! I'M LOOKING FOR A JOB ELSE WHERE!
10-01-2018, 01:35 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

The Fox article I linked was Before the article you linked. And if that was your idea of an indictment of how he should talk about job rumors, completely disagree that his comments meant he was publicly looking at other jobs. Did not get that at all.

Correct. His response was due to the question being asked on a regular basis. I was happy with his response. Why? Because it was like the media was saying "why the hell would you want to be in Starkville, Ms"
10-01-2018, 02:31 AM
Pit Bull

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I think it's clear that we took him granted and never realized how much garbage and lack of talent he covered up.

Just look at the evidence:

- Last night Florida's OL can't block us. What does he do? All quick passes. Gets the ball out of the QB's hands with quick reads.

- 2010 vs Florida, has a QB that can't throw and beats Florida at the swamp without throwing in the 2nd half.

- 2015 he has a 160 lb running back and decides to throw all year.

We can complain all day about why Mullen didn't recruit better but it's more than evident that he was willing to adapt his offense to the strengths and weaknesses of the team and it's clear that we never gave him enough credit for that and that JoMo May not have the ability do that.

I always thought Mullen was good. The difference between him at UF and JoMo at PennState is TWO National Championship rings. Kind of a big difference if you ask me. Now, I didn't think Mullen was a great coach. He said early on when someone asked him how long he would stay at MSU....."when it gets to the point where he realized he could not win a Championship at MSU". Apparently, he finally realized that in 2014 when he got us to #1 with Dak and still couldn't win it.
10-01-2018, 02:36 AM
Pit Bull

Mike Norvell would have been very intriguing to me. What he's done at Memphis and their paltry talent, makes me wonder what he could have done with our current talent.
10-01-2018, 07:02 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

The Fox article I linked was Before the article you linked. And if that was your idea of an indictment of how he should talk about job rumors, completely disagree that his comments meant he was publicly looking at other jobs. Did not get that at all.

You can take it however it makes you feel better. However the reality is our very own athletic administration and President took it the same way I did. As did opposing coaches who use it against us in recruiting. Hence why he wasn't given an extension after an eight win season. And there is a reason why they interpreted it that way. A very good reason.

As I said no denial is the same as coming up and saying I'm looking around.
10-01-2018, 07:03 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Correct. His response was due to the question being asked on a regular basis. I was happy with his response. Why? Because it was like the media was saying "why the hell would you want to be in Starkville, Ms"

No it was because he thought he was going to Miami.

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