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12-21-2016, 01:04 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

My mistake. I corrected it above. He had almost twice as many receptions as Gray. If Gray's numbers were affected that much by Fitz's development then Ross's would have been a lot closer to Gray assuming that Gray is an elite WR since we all know Ross is an elite receiver.

You are full of yourself Mr Play Station! I ain't talking sunshine, you are talking sh@t that you haven't got a clue unless you are sucking Mullen off!

Talk is all the coaches are talking about, there is nothing wrong with looking at players at other positions, obviously you never played football nor coached it dude! Spring practice is for fundamentals and experimenting, what a dumb ass you have become! Maybe ED should have a "Play Station section and you can be the master blaster of all sports.

Mullen is becoming the best ever but you post always with some negative remark. Damn on you for being a Msu fan of any sport, you and the clarion ledger have a lot in common.
12-21-2016, 01:06 PM
lamont

I've heard it all now- receptions don't mean "jack shit" for a WR.

Reading that out loud makes one sound very stupid.
12-21-2016, 01:10 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

I've heard it all now- receptions don't mean "jack shit" for a WR.

Reading that out loud makes one sound very stupid.

Please explain to me how that is the single most relevant stat for a receiver...How does receptions=production?

Answer this question.... Would you rather have a guy with 50 catches for 500yds or a guy with 39 catches for 650yds?
Receptions have its place but it is not the most important stat a receiver has. If it is argue with facts as to why it is clearly the most important stat and the only stat you deem worthy of rating a WR by? Is it just because it fits your argument?
12-21-2016, 01:22 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by basedog

You are full of yourself Mr Play Station! I ain't talking sunshine, you are talking sh@t that you haven't got a clue unless you are sucking Mullen off!

Talk is all the coaches are talking about, there is nothing wrong with looking at players at other positions, obviously you never played football nor coached it dude! Spring practice is for fundamentals and experimenting, what a dumb ass you have become! Maybe ED should have a "Play Station section and you can be the master blaster of all sports.

Mullen is becoming the best ever but you post always with some negative remark. Damn on you for being a Msu fan of any sport, you and the clarion ledger have a lot in common.

Random is saying a lot of the same things I am. Why don't you crawl up his ass too?

Go **** yourself. Merry Christmas.
12-21-2016, 01:22 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by BB30

Please explain to me how that is the single most relevant stat for a receiver...How does receptions=production?

Answer this question.... Would you rather have a guy with 50 catches for 500yds or a guy with 39 catches for 650yds?
Receptions have its place but it is not the most important stat a receiver has. If it is argue with facts as to why it is clearly the most important stat and the only stat you deem worthy of rating a WR by? Is it just because it fits your argument?

The NFL ranks by yards or yards per game. Receptions are important but is not used for ranking the top receivers. Stephon Diggs and Eldelman have more receptions than Julio Jones. NOBODY can make a case either one of those are better or Top 15
12-21-2016, 01:25 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

The NFL ranks by yards or yards per game. Receptions are important but is not used for ranking the top receivers. Stephon Diggs and Eldelman have more receptions than Julio Jones. NOBODY can make a case either one of those are better or Top 15

Oh I assure you Random would find a way to argue it if that was his talking point.
12-21-2016, 01:31 PM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg

Since Donald Gray graduated, any concern over him doing like Beniquez Brown and just moving on and trying for the NFL?

Whether this is the "right" decision or not is a separate issue, I'm curious as to whether IYOK or anyone else knows if we are safe with him staying.

I will admit that TD where he trucked that safety guy then refused to be tackled by that DL guy was NFL quality. I know that is only one play but for those who have seen more plays than I have, how good of a blocker is he? I do think he is a future NFL player though.
12-21-2016, 01:36 PM
sandwolf

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

The NFL ranks by yards or yards per game. Receptions are important but is not used for ranking the top receivers. Stephon Diggs and Eldelman have more receptions than Julio Jones. NOBODY can make a case either one of those are better or Top 15

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Originally Posted by BB30

Oh I assure you Random would find a way to argue it if that was his talking point.

I have enjoyed watching yall take RP apart in this argument, so feel free to keep going if you want to, but if yall are waiting for him to admit that yall are right and that almost every point that he has made has been dumb as shit, I will save yall the suspense.....it will never happen.
12-21-2016, 01:43 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

The NFL ranks by yards or yards per game. Receptions are important but is not used for ranking the top receivers. Stephon Diggs and Eldelman have more receptions than Julio Jones. NOBODY can make a case either one of those are better or Top 15

Well by your metric- Larry Fitzgerald- who leads the entire NFL in receptions but isn't in the top 15 in yards, ypg, or TD's isn't a top 15 WR. And by saying that- you would be wrong

The guy leading the NFL in receptions is damn sure a top 15 WR
12-21-2016, 01:52 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Well by your metric- Larry Fitzgerald- who leads the entire NFL in receptions but isn't in the top 15 in yards, ypg, or TD's isn't a top 15 WR. And by saying that- you would be wrong

The guy leading the NFL in receptions is damn sure a top 15 WR

So are you taking the guy with 50 catches for 500yds or the guy with 39 for 650?

I may end up agreeing with you if you can explain how receptions are the clear and most important stat for a receiver, otherwise, you just keep deflecting.
12-21-2016, 01:54 PM
DudyDawg

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

He was tied for 19th in receptions per game
He was 12th in yards per game
He was 18th in receptions
He was tied for 13th in TD's

That's just not really a top 15 guy

If you average his rankings for those 4 categories, he's ranked at 15.5. I'm assuming you left out his YPC rank for a reason? I don't know where he ranks there, and don't really care, but your 4 stats basically say he's a top 15 guy.
12-21-2016, 02:02 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Well by your metric- Larry Fitzgerald- who leads the entire NFL in receptions but isn't in the top 15 in yards, ypg, or TD's isn't a top 15 WR. And by saying that- you would be wrong

The guy leading the NFL in receptions is damn sure a top 15 WR

IDIOT. Of course Fitzgerald is. He is also 17th in yards. But the point is receptions is not only just how players are ranked. Production plays a bigger factor. Are Julio Jones and Amari Cooper Top 15 receivers. Of course they are. But they are NOT Top 15 in receptions. 19th and 16 th respectively
12-21-2016, 02:02 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by DudyDawg

If you average his rankings for those 4 categories, he's ranked at 15.5. I'm assuming you left out his YPC rank for a reason? I don't know where he ranks there, and don't really care, but your 4 stats basically say he's a top 15 guy.

Yea he is 13th in ypc which ironically averages out to exactly 15.
12-21-2016, 02:04 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Well by your metric- Larry Fitzgerald- who leads the entire NFL in receptions but isn't in the top 15 in yards, ypg, or TD's isn't a top 15 WR. And by saying that- you would be wrong

The guy leading the NFL in receptions is damn sure a top 15 WR

Just to pile on a little here **** I believe by that logic the RB that carries 25/game for 75 yd average is better or as good as the 15/game for 75 yds? Is that what you're saying?
12-21-2016, 02:11 PM
Intramural All-American

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Well by your metric- Larry Fitzgerald- who leads the entire NFL in receptions but isn't in the top 15 in yards, ypg, or TD's isn't a top 15 WR. And by saying that- you would be wrong

The guy leading the NFL in receptions is damn sure a top 15 WR

You're such an annoying troll. Nobody said that the leader in receptions wasn't a top receiver, but you are pointing out that gray is not a top receiver because he is not in the top 15 in receptions. By your logic, receptions is the only category that matters in regards to rating wide receivers. Therefore, the top 15 in receptions are the top 15 receivers no matter what. That is pure ignorance and you know it. But trolls gonna troll.

You have blatantly disregarded the stats that have him in the top 10, and you listed receptions AND receptions/game in the same listing to further your point. its basically the same exact thing except for injuries(which he didn't have; which would hurt him in regards to others who played fewer games with less receptions total) or bama and LSU who were he only teams not to play 12 games exactly.

You are literally the worst.
12-21-2016, 02:17 PM
Dawg496

Julio Jones is clearly not a Top 15 WR because he ranks #19 in receptions.
12-21-2016, 02:18 PM
Bothrops

Folks, let's face facts...we missed on our obligatory receiver targets, and will pay a price. It will limit our offense next year and the the big boys can focus on stacking the box against us. We needed a ready-made outside WR to make up some lost ground for losing Ross. Now we have to rely on guys with little to no experience. Bama, LSU, and likely, Auburn and Georgia will really limit our offense.
12-21-2016, 02:18 PM
Commercecomet24

Ah, I see the Christmas spirit is alive and well at Elitedawgs! Everyone getting along and showing love for each other*********
12-21-2016, 02:40 PM
Political Hack

Gray is an elite WR and might be the best deep threat in the SEC next season. That bold enough?

Dude is a stud and catches the ball easily while in a full sprint. Most WRs can't do that. Even Fred Ross can't catch a deep ball in stride as well as Gray can.
12-21-2016, 02:50 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Folks, let's face facts...we missed on our obligatory receiver targets, and will pay a price. It will limit our offense next year and the the big boys can focus on stacking the box against us. We needed a ready-made outside WR to make up some lost ground for losing Ross. Now we have to rely on guys with little to no experience. Bama, LSU, and likely, Auburn and Georgia will really limit our offense.

Gray, dear, and Mixon could all be dangerous receivers for us next season.

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