WOW, Mizzou's football team quits

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Missouri doing this could really cost the schools playing mizzou money. Could sec commissions potentially throw Missouri out of the sec for this?

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There's a 0% chance the SEC schools would do anything to Missouri for this.

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Originally Posted by AlmostPositive

If you had a three-year-old willing to hang by his neck until you change your ice-cream-for-breakfast policy, you wouldn't be forced to do anything... you could let him suffocate. Ditto for a teenager who stops speaking to the rest of the family until he gets a car... just let him wreck domestic tranquility for months on end.

Or you can cave to pressure.

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So a group demanding equal treatment from its leader equates to a child wanting icecream for breakfast?

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Originally Posted by Bully13

hey positive, you would be a welcomed guest on the political board. solid post, would like to see more of your stuff if you are so inclined.

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How about me, would I be welcome? :)

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Originally Posted by gravedigger

So a group demanding equal treatment from its leader equates to a child wanting icecream for breakfast?

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It does not matter what the objective is. Students do not get to decide who the university president is.

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Originally Posted by AlmostPositive

It does not matter what the objective is. Students do not get to decide who the university president is.

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No, they don't. So why are you pretending they do?

What they do get to decide is whether or not they eat, or play football.

I'll ask you a question...since technically, your 3-year-old could threaten to hang by their neck, what would be your response if they did so?

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Originally Posted by AlmostPositive

It does not matter what the objective is. Students do not get to decide who the university president is.

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How about the faculty? State legislators? MO taxpayers?! (I am one, are you???) I appreciate your point of view, but you're discounting public discourse that is the foundation of our society. Peaceful protest and dissent is a good thing that drives progress.

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Originally Posted by gravedigger

So a group demanding equal treatment from its leader equates to a child wanting icecream for breakfast?

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Not getting the response you hoped for is now "unequal treatment"

Please tell me the fireable offense

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Originally Posted by randyholloway

How about the faculty? State legislators? MO taxpayers?! (I am one, are you???) I appreciate your point of view, but you're discounting public discourse that is the foundation of our society. Peaceful protest and dissent is a good thing that drives progress.

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That only applies when people "peacefully" demand POTUS release his birth certificate, school transcripts, baby pictures, Ancestry.com results, a semen sample, and prove he doesn't have Quran verses tattooed to his upper-inner thigh****

Also let's say the president does resign, does the new president only get sworn in if this group of protesters give him/her the OK? Essentially you are letting this one group decide. I believe there is a word for that.....hhmmm I cant put my finger on it.

Oh yeah..It's called facism.

Well, this has survived on the main board a lot longer than I thought.

I've read several articles and have not seen anything the university president did, or did not do that would justify his removal.

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townn...91a2.image.jpg

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Also let's say the president does resign, does the new president only get sworn in if this group of protesters give him/her the OK? Essentially you are letting this one group decide. I believe there is a word for that.....hhmmm I cant put my finger on it.

Oh yeah..It's called facism.

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Why are people pretending it has been decided that because of the football team, the president will, in fact, resign or be fired?

The football team has said they are boycotting until the president is gone. They are perfectly free to decide not to play and to say whatever they want. We have no idea how this will play out. So let's let it before we jump to conclusions.

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Originally Posted by DancingRabbit

I've read several articles and have not seen anything the university president did, or did not do that would justify his removal.

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townn...91a2.image.jpg

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He refused to be abjectly intimidated by an identity politics mob. The bulk of the media and all of the Left consider this the modern equivalent of Klan membership.

If any of you wants a history lesson Google "Mao Struggle Session"

Same tactics we see today. You cannot negotiate.

From Wiki
A struggle session was a form of public humiliation and torture used by the Communist Party of China in the Mao Zedong era to shape public opinion and to humiliate, persecute, or execute political rivals and class enemies. In general, the victim of a struggle session was forced to admit to various crimes before a crowd of people who would verbally and physically abuse the victim until he or she confessed. Struggle sessions were often held at the workplace of the accused, but were sometimes conducted in sports stadiums where large crowds would gather if the target was famous enough.

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Originally Posted by Blackout

If any of you wants a history lesson Google "Mao Struggle Session"

Same tactics we see today. You cannot negotiate.

From Wiki
A struggle session was a form of public humiliation and torture used by the Communist Party of China in the Mao Zedong era to shape public opinion and to humiliate, persecute, or execute political rivals and class enemies. In general, the victim of a struggle session was forced to admit to various crimes before a crowd of people who would verbally and physically abuse the victim until he or she confessed. Struggle sessions were often held at the workplace of the accused, but were sometimes conducted in sports stadiums where large crowds would gather if the target was famous enough.

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Surely you see the difference here. Please tell me that you do.

I totally agree. The football players have right not to play, and the university has the right to pull scholarships and send their ass packing. These young men (black and white) signed a contract to play football for the university in exchange for free tuition to the University of Missouri and if they fail to do so, UM should stop paying their way. It's that simple.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Surely you see the difference here. Please tell me that you do.

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Speaking more so of the trend on college campuses as a whole but the "demand that the President publically denounce his white privledge" is struggle session 101

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

I totally agree. The football players have right not to play, and the university has the right to pull scholarships and send their ass packing. These young men (black and white) signed a contract to play football for the university in exchange for free tuition to the University of Missouri and if they fail to do so, UM should stop paying their way. It's that simple.

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Missouri absolutely has that right. But if public opinion sides with the players, that would likely be a very bad move.

Anyone relying solely on authority, in this society, will eventually find themselves out of the very position that gave them authority. At the very least, the fact that this issue has mushroomed into the current situation proves that the UM president has been a poor leader. A leader who has lost the confidence of the people he is leading is probably going to be forced out eventually...either that, or he must change. Otherwise the organization will eventually crumble.

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

It's that simple.

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Yeah it is. Congrats on your brave political stance, boycotters, and here's a bill for thirty grand each if you want to stick around campus.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Why are people pretending it has been decided that because of the football team, the president will, in fact, resign or be fired?

The football team has said they are boycotting until the president is gone. They are perfectly free to decide not to play and to say whatever they want. We have no idea how this will play out. So let's let it before we jump to conclusions.

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The very essence of many of the comments that I have read is that the athletes are not free to decide. The scholarship, housing and food makes them University property. The right to exercise civil disobedience is fundamental to our democracy. To deny this fact says that the minority should have no voice. It's not like they are looting in the streets of Columbia. It appears that many would prefer that the football players resort to such actions. At least this would allow the usual adjectives to be attached to them.