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03-03-2015, 04:12 PM
Goat from MSU

We should have gotten Bradley Hayes 3 years ago. I know he does not play much for Greogetown but he would have played a bunch here.

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Originally Posted by engie

We need a center. Badly. One that will be ready to start in 2016, whether you can get it from the highschool, juco, or transfer ranks. Not at all convinced that Ndoye can ever adequately fill that role. And we'll potentially have 4 power forwards. Need to square that away as well...
03-03-2015, 04:59 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by smootness

Yes, we won't know anything until Tookie gets here.

But 3A in Georgia isn't a joke. And I'm sorry, but bringing up an example of somebody who looked really good in pick-up games but didn't score much in the SEC isn't exactly going to help your argument.

Dawg61 wants us to get a Moody-type guy. Well, we're bringing in somebody of a similar size and who is at least a similar type scorer, who is actually a higher-ranked recruit than Moody was even coming out of JUCO, but that isn't good enough.

I just don't know what you guys want. We all want to have better players right now. And we all want better players next year and beyond as well. But we can't have better players right now, and no matter who we get, whether it's a HS kid or a transfer, we won't know how good they are until they show up on campus.

I really like what Tookie seems to bring to the table. Will it be effective in the SEC? I have no idea. But we also wouldn't have any idea if some 4-star 6'5" SG is going to be good until they show up, either. Oh yeah, we're bringing in one of those, too.

We'll see what Tookie is, but playing 3A ball in Georgia and lighting up the scoreboard in HS certainly are not evidence that he won't be good in college. He seems to bring a lot to the table. I'm excited to see if he can make a difference next year.

Smoot--I'm not saying he won't be the next Super D. But don't get all wooly till you see Him Play at the HUMP. The Guy I played in a pick-up game played in the SEC-he wasn't just some Guy. My team was made up ofEX- JUCO players we weren't chopped liver. Some people swore that Travis Daniel was going to be all-sec.

I hope he is-cause if he is what you think we might improve a lot, because we have no one that can shoot and handle the ball now. we are piss poor at PG. I just wonder can he defend?
03-03-2015, 05:06 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by smootness

Ready himself is a really, really good ball-handler. It will definitely be nice to always have a PG in the game that you trust bringing the ball up and running the offense.

I wouldn't call Ready a good ball-handler-He turns the ball over way too much. He can't break a press off the dribble. He has other players bring the Ball up. He also has a hard time driving to the basket. He is an average Ball Handler for the SEC.
03-03-2015, 05:07 PM
Coach34

Who said Travis Daniels was going to be All-SEC???
03-03-2015, 05:09 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by engie

We need a center. Badly. One that will be ready to start in 2016, whether you can get it from the highschool, juco, or transfer ranks. Not at all convinced that Ndoye can ever adequately fill that role. And we'll potentially have 4 power forwards. Need to square that away as well...

Engie-you are correct on this Point. A really nice SEC center would go a long way to making Us a Real SEC team.
03-03-2015, 05:17 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Who said Travis Daniels was going to be All-SEC???

So you are denying your LOVE for TD? You ready to throw him away so quickly? and Yall had should good thing going--Dogging Pollard and Praising TD. Saying Colin was a dog and Travis would be so much better.
03-03-2015, 05:31 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

I wouldn't call Ready a good ball-handler-He turns the ball over way too much. He can't break a press off the dribble. He has other players bring the Ball up. He also has a hard time driving to the basket. He is an average Ball Handler for the SEC.

Ready averages 1.3 TO/game. That's very, very few for a starting PG.

He is an extremely good ball-handler. He routinely dribbles in traffic and rarely is in danger of having it stolen.
03-03-2015, 05:32 PM
engie

I'll be honest -- I thought Daniels would give us a helluva lot more than he has. He's got to be the most freshman-ish 4th year player I've ever seen in games. A ton of talent, but a ton of stupid mistakes and periods of time where he goes totally timid. I don't understand it. He's one of those guys that's an entirely different practice players.

At this point, we just need some damn gamers. I think Weatherspoon can be that -- know Sword is that -- think Tookie can be that -- and some evidence points to Zuppardo being that.

All that to say -- I'm less convinced that we can get to where we need to be today after the performance at South Carolina. We've lost games we should have won there and at home against Bama even after "we got it going in the right direction"....
03-04-2015, 11:22 AM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by smootness

Ready averages 1.3 TO/game. That's very, very few for a starting PG.

He is an extremely good ball-handler. He routinely dribbles in traffic and rarely is in danger of having it stolen.

how many assists? He rarely dribble in traffic because he stays outside the 3 point line letting Chicken drive to the basket.
03-04-2015, 11:27 AM
TheRef

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

how many assists? He rarely dribble in traffic because he stays outside the 3 point line letting Chicken drive to the basket.

2.3 Assist/Game
03-04-2015, 11:27 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by engie

I'll be honest -- I thought Daniels would give us a helluva lot more than he has. He's got to be the most freshman-ish 4th year player I've ever seen in games. A ton of talent, but a ton of stupid mistakes and periods of time where he goes totally timid. I don't understand it. He's one of those guys that's an entirely different practice players.

At this point, we just need some damn gamers. I think Weatherspoon can be that -- know Sword is that -- think Tookie can be that -- and some evidence points to Zuppardo being that.

All that to say -- I'm less convinced that we can get to where we need to be today after the performance at South Carolina. We've lost games we should have won there and at home against Bama even after "we got it going in the right direction"....

Yea, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. However, I never had really high hopes for a guy that barely averaged double figures in JUCO and had no other SEC offers.
03-04-2015, 12:12 PM
Goat from MSU

Hey Ref time to lock this one up too.
03-04-2015, 12:21 PM
maroonmania

Will say before the lock that I am looking forward to seeing what Tookie Brown can do for us on the court next year given his HS performances.
03-04-2015, 12:28 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Will say before the lock that I am looking forward to seeing what Tookie Brown can do for us on the court next year given his HS performances.

Cautiously optimistic. He's obviously got game, but can he overcome small stature
03-04-2015, 12:29 PM
Goat from MSU

I am too . He looks good on film.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Will say before the lock that I am looking forward to seeing what Tookie Brown can do for us on the court next year given his HS performances.
03-04-2015, 01:44 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Cautiously optimistic. He's obviously got game, but can he overcome small stature

He can be our own version of Spud Webb.
03-04-2015, 01:46 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

He can be our own version of Spud Webb.

Yep. No pressure tookie... Just be as good as an nba legend haha
03-04-2015, 04:09 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

So you are denying your LOVE for TD? You ready to throw him away so quickly? and Yall had should good thing going--Dogging Pollard and Praising TD. Saying Colin was a dog and Travis would be so much better.

Daniels is a practice warrior apparently. He has shown flashes- and then disappears. Pollard is going for 11 and 6 at Houston on a team that is 2-14 in league play

Common opponent:

Daniels went for 13 and 9 vs Tulane earlier this year
Pollard 16 and 9 vs Tulane
03-04-2015, 04:16 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Daniels is a practice warrior apparently. He has shown flashes- and then disappears. Pollard is going for 11 and 6 at Houston on a team that is 2-14 in league play

Common opponent:

Daniels went for 13 and 9 vs Tulane earlier this year
Pollard 16 and 9 vs Tulane

good Stats Coach. but Pollard Starts and Travis is a sometimer. It is too bad because they both have the tools to be much better. If they had Roq's energy they could be awesome.
03-04-2015, 04:31 PM
thf24

I still think Daniels has way more potential than he's mostly shown thus far, and could have a great senior season if he spends some time with some kind of basketball guru over the summer to build his confidence up. One of my biggest criticisms of Ray is that he's shown little to no ability to inspire confidence and consistency in players who need it, ie. Daniels and Thomas.

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