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02-26-2014, 04:23 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Goodness, you are so eat up with your agenda you can't even take a little light ribbing. You and coach just blasted a guy for claiming a player, who increased his shooting percentage almost a whole percent, from a dismal 32.8% to a dismal 33.7%, had "lost" his shot. Obviously, anyone can see he wasn't technically correct. And everyone can also see how stupid you look trotting out such abysmal records to prove you are right, albeit just barely.

The good folks that read the board can decide who is spinning on this one. And who is laughing at who.

K.
02-26-2014, 04:27 PM
TexasDawg

I'm beginning to feel like there are split feelings about Rick Ray among the Bulldog faithful
02-26-2014, 04:30 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg

AbsoFREAKINGlutely With his one road win in 2 years 1-18 on the road to go along with a 7-25 SEC record RICK RAY IS AWESOME!

We have won 13 games this year 7 of which against teams with an RPI of 250 or better and who haven't won 10 games this year. Another loss is a home loss to a TCU team who is 0-15 in the Big12. But yeah we are improving our shooting from 36 to 37%

Do you feel Rick Ray is getting outcoached- or is he being out-talented???? I'll hang up and listen
02-26-2014, 04:36 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Goodness, you are so eat up with your agenda you can't even take a little light ribbing. You and coach just blasted a guy for claiming a player, who increased his shooting percentage almost a whole percent, from a dismal 32.8% to a dismal 33.7%, had "lost" his shot. Obviously, anyone can see he wasn't technically correct. And everyone can also see how stupid you look trotting out such abysmal records to prove you are right, albeit just barely.

The good folks that read the board can decide who is spinning on this one. And who is laughing at who.

Well that guy appeared to be claiming that it was a bad thing that FTF gained 20 pounds because it resulted in him losing his jump shot. Thinking that having a good S&C program is inconsistent with having good shooting should be called out. It's just not true and gaining twenty pounds is not what's keeping FTF from being able to shoot.
02-26-2014, 04:39 PM
SouthMsDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Do you feel Rick Ray is getting outcoached- or is he being out-talented???? I'll hang up and listen

Some games outtalented such as the obvious Kentucky, Florida, etc...

But Ray has been outcoached by Trent Johnson's abomination of a TCU team, as well as being out coached by Auburn, Utah State, etc... We are lucky we didn't lose to Southeastern Louisiana and Loyola and even Jackson State. JSU outcoached Ray as did Southeastern and don't give me the have as much talent as we do argument.
02-26-2014, 04:44 PM
MadDawg

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Well that guy appeared to be claiming that it was a bad thing that FTF gained 20 pounds because it resulted in him losing his jump shot. Thinking that having a good S&C program is inconsistent with having good shooting should be called out. It's just not true and gaining twenty pounds is not what's keeping FTF from being able to shoot.

See I didn't read it that way. Coach was arguing that our S&C program was good because Fred had gained 20 pounds. tcdog appeared to me to be making the point that gaining 20 lbs hasn't made Fred any better. And I know he actually claimed he was worse, which is technically not true.

I think the better question might be why is Fred shooting so bad in college when he averaged over 50% in high school.
02-26-2014, 04:44 PM
Goat from MSU

I said it yesterday ,whether I like it not Ray needs a 3rd season with a full roster to show what he got .The fan base is so split on him that in the end could cost him his job. Basketball use to make a little money but not now We got a game tonight but we are still fighting over this like we got a say so in the matter ,not one thread on the game ,that is sick.
02-26-2014, 04:45 PM
Raytoraid83

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Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg

Some games outtalented such as the obvious Kentucky, Florida, etc...

But Ray has been outcoached by Trent Johnson's abomination of a TCU team, as well as being out coached by Auburn, Utah State, etc... We are lucky we didn't lose to Southeastern Louisiana and Loyola and even Jackson State. JSU outcoached Ray as did Southeastern and don't give me the have as much talent as we do argument.

I'd add Vandy to the outcoached list too. They have 7 scholarship players. Also note to add, TCU best player didn't even play against us.
02-26-2014, 04:52 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg

AbsoFREAKINGlutely With 11-32 on the road to go along with a 15-44 SEC record JOHN COHEN IS AWESOME!

We have won 23 games this year 8 of which against teams with an RPI of 150 or worse. Another loss is a loss to a #253 team at a Neutral Site and a #203 team at a Neutral Site. But yeah we are improving our pitching a 6.57ERA to 6.87ERA

Typical Bundy post - May 2010
02-26-2014, 04:55 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg

Some games outtalented such as the obvious Kentucky, Florida, etc...

But Ray has been outcoached by Trent Johnson's abomination of a TCU team, as well as being out coached by Auburn, Utah State, etc... We are lucky we didn't lose to Southeastern Louisiana and Loyola and even Jackson State. JSU outcoached Ray as did Southeastern and don't give me the have as much talent as we do argument.

Bundy....Bundy....you just never learn
02-26-2014, 04:57 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

See I didn't read it that way. Coach was arguing that our S&C program was good because Fred had gained 20 pounds. tcdog appeared to me to be making the point that gaining 20 lbs hasn't made Fred any better. And I know he actually claimed he was worse, which is technically not true.

I think the better question might be why is Fred shooting so bad in college when he averaged over 50% in high school.

Well gaining 20 lbs usually won't make anybody a better shooter unless they were particularly weak to begin with, but it usually does help with defense and rebounding. I don't see any point in criticizing the things we are doing right (or at least better) simply because we suck at shooting. There is a point at where too much weight gain can limit your mobility, but we haven't been anywhere near that problem for a long time.
02-26-2014, 04:58 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg

Some games outtalented such as the obvious LSU, South Carolina, Florida, Arkansas etc...

But Cohen has been outcoached by the abomination of a JSU team, as well as being out coached by Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama, etc... We are lucky we didn't lose to SEMOSt and Western Ky and even Northwestern St. JSU outcoached Cohen as did SoutheasternLA and don't give me the have as much talent as we do argument...

Bundy's next post - May 2010
02-26-2014, 05:00 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

See I didn't read it that way. Coach was arguing that our S&C program was good because Fred had gained 20 pounds. tcdog appeared to me to be making the point that gaining 20 lbs hasn't made Fred any better. And I know he actually claimed he was worse, which is technically not true.

I think the better question might be why is Fred shooting so bad in college when he averaged over 50% in high school.

of course you didnt. They guy was completely wrong and everybody can see it.
02-26-2014, 05:02 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by engie

Some games outtalented such as the obvious LSU, South Carolina, Florida, Arkansas etc...

But Cohen has been outcoached by the abomination of a JSU team, as well as being out coached by Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama, etc... We are lucky we didn't lose to SEMOSt and Western Ky and even Northwestern St. JSU outcoached Cohen as did SoutheasternLA and don't give me the have as much talent as we do argument...

Bundy's next post - May 2010

wow- it's like he has a template for these
02-26-2014, 05:04 PM
Coach34

Damn Engie- that is going to be the first ever "Elitedawgs Remembers" post
02-26-2014, 05:06 PM
engie

And to be clear -- I'm paraphrasing -- those aren't his actual posts from the time period... But they were similar in nature...
02-26-2014, 05:11 PM
Coach34

Ahhhhh

Let's also add that one of the knocks on Cohen also was that he wasn't bringing in high-rated recruiting classes
02-26-2014, 05:22 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Ahhhhh

Let's also add that one of the knocks on Cohen also was that he wasn't bringing in high-rated recruiting classes

And didn't know what he was doing bringing in all the JUCOs on the front end...
02-26-2014, 05:26 PM
Raytoraid83

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Ahhhhh

Let's also add that one of the knocks on Cohen also was that he wasn't bringing in high-rated recruiting classes

Book your tickets for the ncaa tournament championship game two years from now!!
02-26-2014, 05:40 PM
drunkernhelldawg

Amazing thread. Coach Ray is our coach. He's not perfect. He's getting better. If he stays up and is able to keep the team up through all this negativity, he will have accomplished something extraordinary.

I once posted that games are seldom won or lost on the free throw line, but this team has already proven me wrong two or three times this season. 4-12 at the half killed up. But look at it from the shooters' point of view; those empty seats are distracting, and that apathy is infetuous.

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