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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Thanks what a gracious dickhead you are. There are some suck ass SEC teams--Auburn, SC and Ga. But where are the other three wins coming from? The only player that Ray has brought in , in two years that is playing is Ready who is not ready and will be be abused in SEC play.excuse me I forgot about Bloodman, who couldn't play for Delta State.

Hope we win a shitpot load of games in the SEC. If so I gladly eat some crow. But having seen plenty of MSU Coaches( yes even Ron Greene, who you had never heard of) Rick Ray rates up there with Jim Hatfield.

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Let it play out

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Originally Posted by engie

Wow. Just.... WOW.

"Where are the other 3 wins coming from"? In all of your ****tardery -- did you not realize we play those 3 listed teams a total of 5 times? Or are you just that dedicated to trolling? But you know basketball because you've been watching MSU play for 98324098234 yearz and Ray is a shitty floor coach!!1!1

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What lets see 5+ 3 equal 8. coach said we would win 8 SEC games. I never said Ray was a shitty floor coach. I said He hasn't proven to be better that Stansbury. I'm a troll, you post in every thread on two boards. What are you twelve, and what the **** makes you an expert?

I usually agree with your opinions on Football and baseball, but don't understand why you chose defend Ray and Bash Stansbury. Isn't this a message board where MSU fans discuss our Bulldogs? Why do you and your mentor have to bash posters that disagree . The season will play out and then we will see whose insight was better. It's easy to call people ****tards on your iPad , hope it makes you feel like a message board guru.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Let it play out

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Agree

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

I don't have an agenda, I just don't agree with the Rick Ray love you and C34 expound.

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Link me to this alleged "love"? Just because I call out people for trying to judge results during a rebuild doesn't make me nor C34 "Ray lovers". It makes those already judging shortsighted idiots. You might as well argue that you are going to win the next roll on roulette -- you are LITERALLY rolling the dice in making predictions prior to giving someone a fair chance to see what they've got. Even if you "win" and Ray ends up being a bust -- you are still an idiot for making a complete judgement based on incomplete data.

All you do is bitch. And make up shit to bitch about and put down a current MSU coach while comparing him to a former coach. That's a CLEAR agenda.

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It's been a cluster **** since we fired Stans. Instead of looking at Ray and our team and seeing that We are a bottom feeder in a weakass SeC, Y'all continue to bash Stans.

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News flash -- it was a COMPLETE CLUSTER **** before we fired Stans. This is the stupidity that I'm talking about.

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I'll quit defending the bashing of Stansbury if Coach will quit bashing Him in a thread that had nothing to do with Him.

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Bullshit you will. Read the damn thread -- not that you would comprehend it if you did. Coach didn't volunteer a damn thing about Stansbury. Nor did he MENTION his ****ing name until you idiots called him out about 10 different times. Coach was 100% on topic -- until Preachermatt, Maddawg, Bobcat, and Hoopsdawg derailed the thread into the same stupid, tired argument -- as they do with practically every basketball post any of them make.

Your group comes running literally EVERY TIME something negative happens for Ray. You can't just support your team and program -- you DISAPPEAR EVERY TIME something positive happens. Yet, you never miss an opportunity to grind an ax because our last coach who had us as "the most dysfunctional team in America" finally got run out of town and left us a total cluster **** 2 years too late.

But you're taking EVERY opportunity to take potshots and further set back the program in hopes of "being right" about Stansbury -- basically sabotaging MSU and Ray's chances at success. You are literally JUST LIKE the morons that held Cohen back and made it take 2 years longer than it should have to get us back to where we should be. You may not be "one of them" -- but you are indistinguishable.

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I'm all for Ray standing on His on merits. But don't bash Stanbury to try and Make Ray look better. Coach, You calling someone a Moron is worthy of the comedy channel.

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But you are more than fine with bashing Ray and our program while propping up Stansbury. Makes perfect sense. No double standard at all**

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

What lets see 5+ 3 equal 8. coach said we would win 8 SEC games.

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No he didn't. He said "six to eight". But you have no agenda**

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I never said Ray was a shitty floor coach. I said He hasn't proven to be better that Stansbury.

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All you proved is that you don't know the actual game of basketball beyond looking at a box score and really shouldn't be commenting on technical "floor" aspects of the game.

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I'm a troll, you post in every thread on two boards. What are you twelve, and what the **** makes you an expert?

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"What are you twelve"? Classic response**

How about this -- in the first SEC basketball game -- we'll each start a thread with our own insights into what we are actually seeing happen on the floor in the game -- and hold a vote on who has the better insights and knows what the hell they are talking about. Loser agrees to not comment on basketball for the remainder of the season. Deal? This goes for the rest of you incessant Ray-bashers as well if you think you want to step up and try it.

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I usually agree with your opinions on Football and baseball, but don't understand why you chose defend Ray and Bash Stansbury.

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I'm not "Defending Ray and bashing Stansbury". I'm saying the same damn thing Coach is. LET IT PLAY OUT. You can't find a single damn quote from me anywhere where "I think Ray is the correct answer that's going to lead us to glory." I have simply said that you can't judge a DAMN THING about him in the results of years 1 and 2. And it's frigging stupid to even try. And blaming Ray for 100% of the shitty position he's in is ALSO pushing a damn agenda. Ray's early struggle is AT LEAST 50% Stansbury's fault. Twist it and deny it all the hell you want to.

EVERY comment you can find from me says that I judge him exactly how Stansbury was judged starting in year 3. I'm just ridiculously sick and tired of you ****tards showing up every time something negative happens for our basketball program in order to push an agenda that is HURTING MSU IN THE PROCESS.

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Isn't this a message board where MSU fans discuss our Bulldogs? Why do you and your mentor have to bash posters that disagree .

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Who the **** is "my mentor"? You must have missed most of football season...

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The season will play out and then we will see whose insight was better. It's easy to call people ****tards on your iPad , hope it makes you feel like a message board guru.

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Season 3, you mean?

Like I said -- you think you have better insights into basketball than me -- step up and prove it in the first SEC game. Should be easy enough.

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Originally Posted by engie

You said we aren't improved. But you are a ****ing moron if you think we win 4 or fewer in the SEC. Why do you need a game -- if you are so sure we aren't any better than last year?

This team is going to go 7-11 or 8-10 in the SEC. Bookmark it and let me know when I'm wrong

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You are wrong.

Engie you were wrong

Yep, I was wrong.

This team got "figured out" after a couple of weeks in SEC play and never adjusted. I overestimated how well we were compensating for only having one big.

I would have been wrong on Cohen in year 2 when we won the first SEC series as well. Would have bet we won 12-14 and made a regional at that point.

What do you mean "we'll see." ?? We can't go 7-11 or 8-10.

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Originally Posted by Brad Stevens

What do you mean "we'll see." ?? We can't go 7-11 or 8-10.

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I was initially referring to his "4 win prediction" before deciding to simply address my own prediction. I still think we've got a chance to win 5. That's SC and one in the tourney.

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Originally Posted by engie

This is the dumbest shit I've read in awhile. Well, besides every other basketball post that a handful of you make. This team beats Troy and Loyola. So, we're at 8-4 with last year's nonconference schedule.

Given your brilliant prognostication ability to see this clear lack of progression -- please tell me you are willing to bet on us winning 4 or fewer in the SEC again?

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Come again?

Looks like HoopsDawg isn't banned anymore. Haha

Hey I was wrong about how many we would win this year -- when you were flipping out while we were 3-2 in the SEC...

I'd talk as much shit as I possibly can right now if I were you -- because your life is going to be miserable if/when Ray gets it going next year.

It's one thing to mock a fellow MSU fan for underestimating our win total, but something doesn't seem right about mocking a fellow MSU fan for predicting more wins than we got.

We're all upset about this season. No need for the "I told you so"s...

Basketball threads on here are ****ing terrible right now. I hope for my sake that we are better next year so we don't have guys jerking themselves off while bending over backwards trying to point out that another fan was wrong for predicting a 7 win season. I don't even understand how some of you people consider yourselves fans.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Looks like HoopsDawg isn't banned anymore. Haha

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1st day back. "I seen it" banned me for a month. Notice in this thread the language engie used whereas I was restrained. Other than saying he rode the shortbus, but as far as I know that was fact not opinion.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

1st day back. "I seen it" banned me for a month. Notice in this thread the language engie used whereas I was restrained. Other than saying he rode the shortbus, but as far as I know that was fact not opinion.

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Lulz.

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Originally Posted by engie

Hey I was wrong about how many we would win this year -- when you were flipping out while we were 3-2 in the SEC...

I'd talk as much shit as I possibly can right now if I were you -- because your life is going to be miserable if/when Ray gets it going next year.

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i'd rather us win than be right on the internet. i love msu and want us to win. pointing out that i don't think the current HC is going to get it done is not "hoping he fails/loses", it's just looking at the evidence on hand (on the court, recruiting, experience, etc.) and not seeing much hope. trust me, i'd happy be wrong if we could be in the NCAA discussion next year. it's ****ing retarded to think any msu fan would rather be right about a coach sucking than be good in a sport.

I am beginning to hate anyone that brings up Stans.

He is gone and if Ray doesn't succeed, Rick Stansbury still isn't coming back. So, leave it be!!! Please!!!

You either support Mississippi State or you don't.

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Originally Posted by dawgs

it's ****ing retarded to think any msu fan would rather be right about a coach sucking than be good in a sport.

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Certainly not talking about you specifically, but there are DEFINITELY examples of this spread throughout our fanbase. We've got an affinity to love coaches more than the school itself. Don't believe it? Ask Cohen or Ray...