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11-29-2025, 10:13 AM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

Just get Mullen and let him train KaMario for 3 years.

We?ve seen that movie and it was great.

This. Get him a good NIL money rolling in and let him get us back to bowl games. Just place in his contract a non-compete clause . If he or his agent start shopping him out before the end of the season it reduces his contract salary.
11-29-2025, 10:14 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I will hold my judgement in that regard to see what he does in regards to staff changes.

Well, if he defends Hutz to the bitter end then I take it all back.

That's my cut off. I am still on the Lebby train but if he makes a stink about keeping Hutz, I'm out. He needs to go at that point.

Put some boosters and Selmon on a jet to Vegas to see what it would take to get Mullen to come back and clean this mess up.

If Dan agrees to come back then he gets Dak to call Kamario and a few of our top offensive guys to get them to stay.
11-29-2025, 10:16 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by KB21

I was told last night that we have a big offer on the table for an established defensive coordinator. I?m still in I will see it to believe it stage in this, but this was told to me by the same guy that told me BOC was getting the baseball job well before it ever happened.

Well, good to hear we are trying to get someone with a solid history. There is no reason to replace Hutzler with another Hutzler type hire. In that case we would be better off staying pat given Hutzler does at least have 2 years on the job now.
11-29-2025, 10:16 AM
KB21

The pining for Dan Mullen is nauseating. I don?t want to slight him because he?s a good coach, but he?s not aggressive enough to win big in the NIL era. He?s too conservative with his approach and play calling.
11-29-2025, 10:17 AM
BankerDog

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Well, if he defends Hutz to the bitter end then I take it all back.

That's my cut off. I am still on the Lebby train but if he makes a stink about keeping Hutz, I'm out. He needs to go at that point.

Put some boosters and Selmon on a jet to Vegas to see what it would take to get Mullen to come back and clean this mess up.

If Dan agrees to come back then he gets Dak to call Kamario and a few of our top offensive guys to get them to stay.

What if I told you Dak was the one fronting Shapen?s NIL deal..
11-29-2025, 10:20 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by KB21

The pining for Dan Mullen is nauseating. I don?t want to slight him because he?s a good coach, but he?s not aggressive enough to win big in the NIL era. He?s too conservative with his approach and play calling.

You know the discussion is here is mullen vs Lebby, which is no comparison. Mullen isn't coming back, but he would no doubt be a huge upgrade. Next year when we inevitably fire Lebby, it won't be Mullen though to replace him.
11-29-2025, 10:20 AM
BankerDog

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Originally Posted by KB21

I was told last night that we have a big offer on the table for an established defensive coordinator. I?m still in I will see it to believe it stage in this, but this was told to me by the same guy that told me BOC was getting the baseball job well before it ever happened.

Try to pair him with Baker, Wes Goodwin, Ron English, Brent Pry, etc.
11-29-2025, 10:21 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by KB21

I was told last night that we have a big offer on the table for an established defensive coordinator. I?m still in I will see it to believe it stage in this, but this was told to me by the same guy that told me BOC was getting the baseball job well before it ever happened.

There is a deal on the table. I also know we are slow playing things a tad to see what happens at Auburn and LSU.
11-29-2025, 10:23 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

There is a deal on the table. I also know we are slow playing things a tad to see what happens at Auburn and LSU.

We shouldn't slow play anything. All other jobs will be more attractive for a good DC once the slots are filled bc Lebby has the least job security entering next season. We need to lock a guy up ASAP
11-29-2025, 10:23 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Try to pair him with Baker, Wes Goodwin, Ron English, Brent Pry, etc.

Or….and hear me out….Dave Arranda.
11-29-2025, 10:25 AM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Whitson was hurt most of the year before at Coastal. Good player but came to us with an injury history. Problem is with Hutzler, we have to pay above market value because he has no track record. I mean I guess we can just continually blame all our woes on the NIL budget and not hold coaches accountable and be the loveable losers of the SEC. I mean our NIL budget was significantly increased last year. Seriously, make excuses all you want for Hutzler but he couldn't have gotten a DC job anywhere else in the SEC and that's just a fact. I was shocked and disappointed when Lebby hired him. Coaching at Alabama where players flow in by the truckload is not the same as coaching at State and is really not the same as coaching at most places.

You honestly think players take pay cuts to go play for certain coaches? No.
11-29-2025, 10:28 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We shouldn't slow play anything. All other jobs will be more attractive for a good DC once the slots are filled bc Lebby has the least job security entering next season. We need to lock a guy up ASAP

So you would rather have Justin Wilcox than wait two days and get Blake Baker?
11-29-2025, 10:28 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Or….and hear me out….Dave Arranda.

That would be a very good move if that were to happen. Not only had talent but his defenses were always so sound fundamentally.
11-29-2025, 10:30 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You know the discussion is here is mullen vs Lebby, which is no comparison. Mullen isn't coming back, but he would no doubt be a huge upgrade. Next year when we inevitably fire Lebby, it won't be Mullen though to replace him.

I?m still going to take Lebby?s upside and his aggressive mindset. I don?t want a coach who is going to try and sit on a 3 point lead with 10 minutes left in the game. I don?t want a coach who isn?t willing to go for it on 4th down.
11-29-2025, 10:30 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

That would be a very good move if that were to happen. Not only had talent but his defenses were always so sound fundamentally.

That is not who the offer is on the table for btw but I know his representation has been sending feelers out were it to happen
11-29-2025, 10:31 AM
DEDawg

Is Arranda an actual possibility?
11-29-2025, 10:33 AM
Brobi-wan

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

So you would rather have Justin Wilcox than wait two days and get Blake Baker?

Not at all. I was under the impression Baker was being retained though. Aranda would be a great hire and great PR for us. I will say, while OM is in turmoil, we do not need to throw ourselves into turmoil.
11-29-2025, 10:33 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Is Arranda an actual possibility?

His seat is very warm at Baylor.
11-29-2025, 10:35 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

That is not who the offer is on the table for btw but I know his representation has been sending feelers out were it to happen

Yeah I heard about our offer, but if Aranda is a possibility we can wait a day or two.
11-29-2025, 10:36 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

His seat is very warm at Baylor.

Warm would be a massive understatement. They wanted him gone last year but he got hot and 5 out of his last 6.

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