2025 Transfer Portal Thread

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

If you want to talk ROI, 12 million for 6 wins total ain't much of an ROI.... would be a better use of funds to be used in baseball/basketball

I'm old enough to remember when $200K to Pastor Newton would have bought us a national championship***

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As opposed to the negative balance the other sports bring except MBK? Women’s BBall is more popular than baseball….and it’s not even close. Women’s March madness averaged almost 20 million viewers in 2024. Baseball CWS averaged just 1.6 million. According to the article linked below, our terrible football team averaged roughly 800k viewers. That’s half of what the BEST college baseball teams average.

So with that being said, a 6-6 team that grows the viewer base, and gets the average fan attendance back/builds some excitement, would be a worthy ROI IMO. We’re not going to be able to bring this back at once. It may not take 5 years, but it will likely take minimum of this year and next.

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-...4-6596e696ebaf

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I don't get the low expectations. If we are going to spend 12-13 million, bowling is a minimum. If 6 wins is the ceiling, we might as well not spend anything and just put that money to another sport.

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We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

Who is next after Fluff?

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Originally Posted by Pancho

Who is next after Fluff?

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Raishein Thomas and Will Whitson.

Late to the party, but what is the story on whitson? Looks like he would be a 6th year guy (old is good) who only played 4 games in 2024 (maybe to secure a redshirt?)

Is he a 3 technique or a traditional DE?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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Golf clap!! People that thought a lot of money would get studs were naive or just dumb. We need to improve as you said. Good post Todd!

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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One of your best posts in a while (not that others are bad).
A lot of our fanbase thinks it's like Amazon, get your money and point and click to get the player you want. It's a process, and you have to become competitive before you can become an attractive destination to big time guys.

If we can get to 6 wins next year with the schedule we have then Lebby did a great job. Next year is going to tell how good of a coach Lebby is. We still don’t have enough information to determine it yet considering we were the worst talented team by far in the SEC last year

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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Damn Dude, you are making too much sense for this board. well put.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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I'm not saying we should be title contenders, but the goal should not be 6 wins. Never should the goal be to get to .500.

And ole miss model ain't working. They won 9 games and their portal haul ain't no better than ours with 2 wins.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I'm not saying we should be title contenders, but the goal should not be 6 wins. Never should the goal be to get to .500.

And ole miss model ain't working. They won 9 games and their portal haul ain't no better than ours with 2 wins.

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???? They have won 10 games two years in a row and regularly whoop our ass. Their model is working

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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Pretty much what I said the page before. 2-10 and more money is not going to let you go get whoever you want. Improve the roster, get a better record. Then hopefully you become more attractive the next year. I also said our coaches better show they can coach this year too, especially on D.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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Well stated Todd, nicely written. This a process for us. The Confederates were not nearly as talent deficient as we are to start the process either. 6-6 will be one hell of a job by this staff. I would be very happy to be in Birmingham after Christmas next year.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I'm not saying we should be title contenders, but the goal should not be 6 wins. Never should the goal be to get to .500.

And ole miss model ain't working. They won 9 games and their portal haul ain't no better than ours with 2 wins.

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See the forest for the trees. The model they are using is working exactly as they planned. They are a perennial 9 to 10 win football program that is garnering a nice chunk of national attention. They are attracting top flight talent and the university and town are prospering. I hope that we can get on that same track. If f not it?s not going to be pretty.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

See the forest for the trees. The model they are using is working exactly as they planned. They are a perennial 9 to 10 win football program that is garnering a nice chunk of national attention. They are attracting top flight talent and the university and town are prospering. I hope that we can get on that same track. If f not it?s not going to be pretty.

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They aren't winning 9-10 games next year without a RB and with Simmons at QB

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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely

They aren't winning 9-10 games next year without a RB and with Simmons at QB

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We said this same thing about Dart. And Corral before because he was such a bad character that nobody but Ole Miss would take. Rinse and repeat. And if they don?t win 9 they will win 7 or 8 and it will be considered a down year for them.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

We said this same thing about Dart. And Corral before because he was such a bad character that nobody but Ole Miss would take. Rinse and repeat. And if they don?t win 9 they will win 7 or 8 and it will be considered a down year for them.

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Their schedule gives them almost 8 wins

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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely

They aren't winning 9-10 games next year without a RB and with Simmons at QB

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The Simmons kid can play and will be in his third year in the program. They will be a good team again next season.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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One of your better post, Todd. However, we can?t tell Cowbell anything-remember his three brothers/cousins played in the SEC so he knows all how it works!

Moten to Southern Miss

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

Moten to Southern Miss

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I have a hard time believing if we seriously wanted him, that we lost out to them.

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

Moten to Southern Miss

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goodness, i was told he was a SEC starting corner. I've never seen him play so I don't know. I do know we need a starter at corner that can plan man to man.

Wow that is surprising. It is good to know that it seems the staff can evaluate at least, gotta imagine we passed on him. Arnett would have promised him the starting job

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Originally Posted by KB21

Booth and Akharaiyi are going through the process of getting 2025.

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Any update on these 2?

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Originally Posted by Brobi-wan

I have a hard time believing if we seriously wanted him, that we lost out to them.

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he wanted to play for Huff and so did the majority of the Marshall team.

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

he wanted to play for Huff and so did the majority of the Marshall team.

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That was always going to be a tough hill to climb. We are still on Denver Harris, whenever he enters the portal. Probably pushing a bit harder now.

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Originally Posted by Brobi-wan

I have a hard time believing if we seriously wanted him, that we lost out to them.

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Wants to play for Huff. It sure wasn't money related.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

That was always going to be a tough hill to climb. We are still on Denver Harris, whenever he enters the portal. Probably pushing a bit harder now.

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Nah

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?

6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.

If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.

Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.

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Yes. Why is it so hard for some to get this. Yeah, aim high, but reality is reality.

I went and looked at the stats for OM?s portal class vs ours. Some of their 4 star transfers have proven nothing. I?m not that guy usually, but it?s way overblown.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Their schedule gives them almost 8 wins

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Exactly. They will have the easiest or top 3 easiest schedules again next year.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

That was always going to be a tough hill to climb. We are still on Denver Harris, whenever he enters the portal. Probably pushing a bit harder now.

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If we wanted him and paid double?..I don?t believe any coach in the NCAA could talk 95% of kids into not going to the high paying school. In the current environment, I would include the GOAT in that, except he may could keep a handful more.

If Moten doesn't want to play SEC ball I think that speaks for itself

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Nah

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Nah as in not going after Denver Harris?

Not sure we can compete with our current corners.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

That was always going to be a tough hill to climb. We are still on Denver Harris, whenever he enters the portal. Probably pushing a bit harder now.

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So did we really lose him to Southern or did the staff evaluate and decided to pass? I can?t imagine a player picking southern over any SEC school no matter who the coach is

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

So did we really lose him to Southern or did the staff evaluate and decided to pass? I can?t imagine a player picking southern over any SEC school no matter who the coach is

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He wanted to play for Huff. Huff is just taking the Marshall team to Hattiesburg. He has told those Marshall guys that everything will be the same. Starters last year at Marshall will be starters next year at USM. We wanted him, but the Huff piece and keeping the status quo won out.

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Originally Posted by ZedFedder

I went and looked at the stats for OM?s portal class vs ours. Some of their 4 star transfers have proven nothing. I?m not that guy usually, but it?s way overblown.

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Correct. And you know why that is? Because these recruiting services do not want to admit that their ratings were just off on guys. There is also the Kiffin piece. These guys want to rate his classes high because he is “The Portal King”. He gives credence to their original rankings on these kids. If Jaray Bledsoe had committed to Ole Miss he would be a high 4 star and they would have kept his original HS ranking. Same thing with Malick Sylla. And if Dashawn Womack had committed here he would be a 3 star.

Looks like we got Darron Reed. Was a top 200 recruit from Auburn. DL that didn?t play this year

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Nah as in not going after Denver Harris?

Not sure we can compete with our current corners.

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On Harris, I would pass until I had no other option. Then I'd pass again.
We definitely are hurting at CB

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

On Harris, I would pass until I had no other option. Then I'd pass again.
We definitely are hurting at CB

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What is his deal? Character?