To an extent yes. He's been great for us. But who's going to be that guy for us next year or the year after?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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To an extent yes. He's been great for us. But who's going to be that guy for us next year or the year after?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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Originally Posted by BankerDog
I wonder if IYOK or Ari are hearing any rumors of have insight?
Didn't realize Jerrion Ealy was waivering a bit. He seems to be warming up some to JoMo and Huff. He was at the MSU BBQ this weekend and was talking real positive about our football program. I thought he was a solid lock for the ReBearSharks. Genespage seems to think different and apparently Ealy is visiting BAMA as well. Lemonis spoke with him and guaranteed he could play football and baseball if he chooses. However, I still think he is a high draft choice and will take the money and run. If we're going after Ealy this hard, then that likely means Emery is gone for good to LSU and our staff knows it.
This isn't anything new besides him visiting and us getting an interview with him. There was similar things being said about a month or 2 ago. I wouldn't take it as us moving on from Emery but more so if he decides to go to college you definitely have to put your hat on the table and you do that by building a relationship with him.
Not a bad take. However I'm going with that sales pitch as insurance in case something weird pops up next MLB Draft and Ealy don't go where he was supposed to. I've seen no info suggesting anything but this guy going pro 1st opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pit Bull
Ealy is gone unless he gets hurt. Won’t be any money issue there.
Watching Ealy's film, he is a very good RB-almost comparable to Emery imo. I really wish we could get him to come to State.
While this class is better than most under Mullen, this weekend looks like a minor bust in terms of 2019 prospects. People were calling for as many as 5 commits from various classes and we have 1. Jackson no shows and spends 3 days in Oxford, Mingo doesn?t stay the night in Starkville but does Oxford. Charles Moore is at Tenn (not worried about that one), Hall said he was coming for a day but went to FSU instead, and apparently Coker Wright looked extremely average. More like Flop Dawg Weekend, am I?m right?**rimshotQuote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
However, Burdine and Ealy (him to a lesser extent given MLB status) were nice surprises. Hopefully we made some good strides with these ultra talented 2020 and younger guys.
As far as 2019 goes the weekend was a complete bust...Brooks Rayburn was the Top 2019 Dawg....and that?s kind of a let down...hope our staff can find some was to restart momentumQuote:
Originally Posted by SouthMSDog
More than anything we need the season to start. I think what has hurt us with the wide receivers is they still think that we're going to be a ground and pound option team. Once they see us winning and being balanced I think it will help a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMSDog
I also think Big/Top Dawg Camp is going to be different under Joe than it was Dan. With Dan I felt like he wanted everyone to commit so that he would have less work to do. With Joe we're going to be a lot more aggressive and proactive.
I don't get some people. We got some huge commits awhile back and the staff is doing a great job recruiting but our fans expect this kind of momentum every single day it seems. Have you not all figured out that there are peaks and valleys throughout this process? We are and will be fine. This is a different regime and I think they are leaps and bounds better than what we had as far as recruiters go.
This isn’t Dan Mullen. We aren’t putting everything into one weekend. Today was a camp and none of the guys with spots needed to be there. It’s pretty obvious a lot of kids are having fun with their recruiting.
Didn't we have a recent BDC that resulted in zero commits?
We?re going to add a couple commits the next couple weeks. You ***** ass fans keep whining just to hear yourselves.
It's understandable since under Dan typically our biggest recruiting day was Big Dawg Camp. But the other thing people need to understand is that we have a lot more commitments at this point than we typically did under Dan also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
Rep given!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
So was Ealy the one Jarrian Jones was alluding to that would “Make Ole Miss fans sad?”
Someone gets it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Give me a list of people who said 5 commits for TDC...Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMSDog
There is also a handful of kids that would already be committed if Dan were here that are wait and see guys now.. our class would look more like UM right now with the old staffQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
And a handful we probably wouldn’t have committed right now .. Jones being one of them
Everyone enjoy the fall camp, hope for no injuries , and enjoy the hell out of this season we are about to have.
This staff knows how to recruit , trust me. And the results we will see on the field this season damn sure won’t hurt either
This will end up being one of the best classes we have had..
Do U think Jackson flips to OM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Wouldn’t shock me either way. Just like it wouldn’t shock me if Black, Ealy, Turnage, Young and Handy all decommited at some pointQuote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
I was more shocked he commited to us this early in the first place.
Out of Watkins, Scurry, Mingo, and Jackson if we land 2 of these it will be a win. More than is gravy. And I think we will land 2 for sure
Ari, What do you think of Rayburn?
Rayburn is a guy you offer a preferred walk-on spot to. Just like Wright. Unless you lose out on everybody else.
Why do you think that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Because neither one has the measurables of a typical SEC football player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
You recruit for the most part by the book because the book exist for a reason. It's usually right. When you start signing a bunch of players that don't have the measurables of a typical SEC football player, you end up with a team of players that don't have the measurables of a typical SEC football player
So a kid that is 6’1” plus, runs a 4.5 lazer time 40, runs great routes and had 10 TDs with very limited touches and plays in a modified T formation offense just doesn’t have SEC measureables.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
He will need to add 15-20 LBs of muscle while retaining his speed and quickness in order to handle contact...I also think we try to go the PWO route with him unless we can?t land two of our top fourQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
He sounds like the Hunter Renfrow kid at Clemson. I think you let those types walk-on unless you have a spot late in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Remember, we can only take about 4-5 more commitments
We remember differently. I believe we will sign 26 or 27. None of that is to say that we should definitely sign Rayburn. Although, observers yesterday said he ran a legit 4.5 and had great hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Because he’s not as good as the guys ahead of him and we only have so many scholarships.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
He's one of the better hs receivers in the state, but physically isn't anywhere near ready for the SEC. Our coaches will probably evaluate him closely in his physical development.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Longtime reader, 1st time posting, Everyone needs to relax with the recruiting slow down. This coaching group is going after and landing far better recruits than we have routinely gone after in the past decade. Granted this is a very rare and strong in state class, you still can’t discount the coaching staff for their out of state pursuits. Emery would be amazing, but you are kidding yourselves if you think Mullen would have ever been in the coversation. The fact that Emery is even considering us, is gigantic.
I work in South La, and I am surrounded by true DIE HARD LSU fans, it is not lost on them the effect of MSU recruiting. I have even gotten them to acknowledge State has an added disadvantage of having a fellow SEC school in state. LSU has the market cornered from birth in LA, but that is beginning to be questioned with JoMoe and company.... Hail State
Charles Cross commits to FSU
MSU has so many disadvantages that we've had to overcome that most/all SEC schools have absolutely no clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentSteel16
- Two SEC schools in-state
- small in-state population
- Although growing exponentially, built in the middle of nowhere, which has made making it "somewhere" a challenge.
- Not only two SEC schools in the same, small population state, but both SEC schools are in the north portion of the state. South MS has little connection.
- A random G5 school (USM) that traditionally stole a useful portion of the state population. This is deteriorating.
- LSU, Alabama within 1 hour of state lines.
- All this leads to a state that is split & never pulling in the same direction. Very little sidewalk fan base which hurts in areas where most players come from.
- Having to play @ LSU for almost 30 years in a row.
- Home games in Jackson, which stunted Starkville's growth
- Having to play Alabama every year while our rival did not.
It's just a mess. The good news is that MSU's profile as a successful SEC school is dragging it out of these disadvantages. We are on the cusp of becoming a national brand that appeals to people outside of the state, which is the solution. For so long MSU has been plagued by disadvantages, but as good fortune would have it, the Golden Triangle is growing, Starkville is becoming legit, we have beautiful & growing on campus stadium, & most importantly, we emerged from poor past leadership & circumstances with 1 of 14 seats of the most powerful college sport entity in the country & we are surrounded on all side by one of the most fruitful recruiting areas in the nation. While we still have excuses, they are growing fewer by the day
The outside perception of Starkville and MSU still won't change until 10-20 years after the fact.
You could be right as there are many who have a vested interest in maintaining that perception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Well as long as LSU keeps Coach O ?which may not be too long,? and OM has frat boy we stand a great chance of prevailing regionally if not nationally. Saban will eventually retire and Mullen would be hard pressed to get anywhere against Smart and UGA. I believe with us churning out players such as Dak, Wright,BMck, Sweat, Simmons and Slay, we will continue to get the next group such as Shrader and Jarrian Jones. The legacy of State will continue to climb along with the traditions of ?Don?t stop Believing.?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Not to mention a couple of National titles in Basketball and Baseball won?t hurt. Cohen has this University going in the right direction which has been entirely lacking in the past.
These recruits especially in football are completely buying into these coaches and themselves. It is our job as fans to continue to root them on, which has been proven to be working by being regarded as one of the loudest stadiums in the NCAA.
Going to be a fun year for many sports starting on the gridiron !!
Ari or IYOK, will this last or will he stay in state?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg