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01-31-2018, 10:03 AM
GreenheadDawg

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Sampson is out, we’re moving on.

On to what? Joey Trapp 2.0?
01-31-2018, 10:20 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

On to what? Joey Trapp 2.0?

I don't know, could Noah Ellis move to OL if we can get him in? Pretty sad that M Johnson came in here as an OL coach from another P5 school and he apparently can't pull one OL recruit? He may be a better coach but Looney would have recruited better.
01-31-2018, 10:23 AM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

On to what? Joey Trapp 2.0?

I guess 2019.
01-31-2018, 10:31 AM
vv83

What off field issues are we dropping Sampson for? I know there's a line but damn it must be pretty bad if we're not going after him anymore. We're desperate
01-31-2018, 10:37 AM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by vv83

What off field issues are we dropping Sampson for? I know there's a line but damn it must be pretty bad if we're not going after him anymore. We're desperate

Something just didn't seem right with us landing a high rated recruit form Detroit. Kinda like a too good to be true deal unless had some connections down here.
01-31-2018, 10:42 AM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by vv83

What off field issues are we dropping Sampson for? I know there's a line but damn it must be pretty bad if we're not going after him anymore. We're desperate

Look - I heard a week ago that there were problems with Sampson but I didn't post on the board, there is a reason that his only official visit has been with Western Michigan and that every school that goes after him has immediately dropped him.

Personally I think it is a good sign that we don't feel the need to sign a guy that apparently has some 'red flags' just because he is a 4 star/All American player and sign him for the rankings alone. I know of at least 3 bear coaches that would sign him based of his 4 star status alone.
01-31-2018, 11:39 AM
Cooterpoot

OM didn't take him either. So it's got to be worse that ramming something up a kids arse.
01-31-2018, 11:39 AM
vv83

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Look - I heard a week ago that there were problems with Sampson but I didn't post on the board, there is a reason that his only official visit has been with Western Michigan and that every school that goes after him has immediately dropped him.

Personally I think it is a good sign that we don't feel the need to sign a guy that apparently has some 'red flags' just because he is a 4 star/All American player and sign him for the rankings alone. I know of at least 3 bear coaches that would sign him based of his 4 star status alone.

Well yeah that is my question. Can you spill?
01-31-2018, 11:56 AM
sandwolf

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

OM didn't take him either. So it's got to be worse that ramming something up a kids arse.

LOL
01-31-2018, 12:13 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by vv83

Well yeah that is my question. Can you spill?

We're not signing him and we are pretty desperate on the OL and the kid has talent, so I think its safe to say he his issues are serious, no reason to just post rumors. We are moving on.
01-31-2018, 12:49 PM
Bothrops

God almighty..a one OL sign looks to be a foregone conclusion. We recruit like Northwestern St. in the month of January it seems. If it hadn't been for the early signing period, I'd hate to even imagine what things would have been like by now. I just don't understand it.
01-31-2018, 12:55 PM
NCDawg

Maybe we should put ad in The Reflector- "Offensive Linemen needed for football team. Please contact coach Marcus Johnson".
01-31-2018, 01:16 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

God almighty..a one OL sign looks to be a foregone conclusion. We recruit like Northwestern St. in the month of January it seems. If it hadn't been for the early signing period, I'd hate to even imagine what things would have been like by now. I just don't understand it.

Chill dude... we killin it
01-31-2018, 01:37 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If we sign him, what will the board opinion be? Ark took winkel, who everyone said was bad so no loss. If we turn around and sign an ark olineman with only a se Missouri st offer, will he be the diamond of this class that everyone overlooked?

I think at this point we have to roll the dice. We aren't going to use our scholarships otherwise to my knowledge, so might as well take a risk on the best OL we can get to commit. Plenty of overlooked OL so we can't just pass on using scholarships.
01-31-2018, 01:56 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

Anybody know the status of Jake Hardage, OL form Arky? He could be the next one on the list.

He's not on the board
01-31-2018, 02:28 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

He's not on the board

well....the next obvious question is 'who is' and is available talent meaningful?
01-31-2018, 03:01 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

well....the next obvious question is 'who is' and is available talent meaningful?

At this point I’d rather just focus on December juco OL then waste a spot on a guy this far down our list unless something just breaks.
01-31-2018, 03:07 PM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

At this point I’d rather just focus on December juco OL then waste a spot on a guy this far down our list unless something just breaks.

Agree. No Joey trapps.
01-31-2018, 03:33 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

At this point I’d rather just focus on December juco OL then waste a spot on a guy this far down our list unless something just breaks.

I thought we can no longer count December signees back to February, but that they would instead count against the Feb. 2019 25 schollies. Does that not start until next year?
01-31-2018, 03:48 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I thought we can no longer count December signees back to February, but that they would instead count against the Feb. 2019 25 schollies. Does that not start until next year?

I'm not sure, I just don't want to sign a guy unless we think he can really help us, and usually if you haven't offered a guy before February, you have decided he can't help you.

The focus now needs to be locking up Lovett (I'm being told its done) and beating out Bama/UT for Smith, by the way - I'm hearing we are getting him so there is that. Then turn the page to 2019 and get some OL here in a hurry.
01-31-2018, 03:49 PM
tcdog70

don't we have 2 JUCO O-linemen red shirtted?
01-31-2018, 03:56 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

don't we have 2 JUCO O-linemen red shirtted?

Yes. Phillips and champion
01-31-2018, 04:04 PM
Irondawg

I imagine we will try to get into play for some quality transfers. That?s our best bet right now.

Find someone that our staff pence thought was good that is a bit buried on a depth chart
01-31-2018, 04:37 PM
Commercecomet24

We had 2 OL from last year that we signed and placed,in Juco,Josh Cooper(from Daks old HS) and Montravious Richardson. Anyone have a clue if we are still on them or their progress?
01-31-2018, 05:31 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I'm not sure, I just don't want to sign a guy unless we think he can really help us, and usually if you haven't offered a guy before February, you have decided he can't help you.

The focus now needs to be locking up Lovett (I'm being told its done) and beating out Bama/UT for Smith, by the way - I'm hearing we are getting him so there is that. Then turn the page to 2019 and get some OL here in a hurry.

If we are going to go into fall with 85 scholarship players, that's fine. But if not, we can't just lose scholarships. Even if it's a long shot, we need to use our scholarships. If we got lucky and got a solid contributor that would make balancing our OL roster much easier going forward.
01-31-2018, 05:47 PM
shrimp

Doesn't sound like the new staff is too high on either of them. Probably just a watch and follow situation for now.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

We had 2 OL from last year that we signed and placed,in Juco,Josh Cooper(from Daks old HS) and Montravious Richardson. Anyone have a clue if we are still on them or their progress?
01-31-2018, 05:50 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by shrimp

Doesn't sound like the new staff is too high on either of them. Probably just a watch and follow situation for now.

I was thinking same thing, just hadn?t heard any word on them. I know they would probably be December entry?s at the earliest.
01-31-2018, 06:07 PM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

If we are going to go into fall with 85 scholarship players, that's fine. But if not, we can't just lose scholarships. Even if it's a long shot, we need to use our scholarships. If we got lucky and got a solid contributor that would make balancing our OL roster much easier going forward.

So it's a use it or lose it? No carry over?
01-31-2018, 06:37 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Loving to be wrong means you don't have the facts.

Told you there was something up with Sampson.

But me and shotgun will take that room now, I want it filled with bud light and beautiful women
01-31-2018, 06:45 PM
Ari Gold

Well **** ....
01-31-2018, 06:48 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I was thinking same thing, just hadn?t heard any word on them. I know they would probably be December entry?s at the earliest.

From what I understand, Richardson is solid, Cooper not so much.
01-31-2018, 06:53 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I'm not sure, I just don't want to sign a guy unless we think he can really help us, and usually if you haven't offered a guy before February, you have decided he can't help you.

The focus now needs to be locking up Lovett (I'm being told its done) and beating out Bama/UT for Smith, by the way - I'm hearing we are getting him so there is that. Then turn the page to 2019 and get some OL here in a hurry.

Smith has cut UT, so it?s us... unless Bama misses on a couple.
01-31-2018, 06:56 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Smith has cut UT, so it?s us... unless Bama misses on a couple.

Looks like he prob cut us as well. Not matter what happens with Bama other targets.
01-31-2018, 06:56 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Well **** ....

Uh oh... can it get worse???

ETA... Yep, that’s worse.
01-31-2018, 07:03 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

From what I understand, Richardson is solid, Cooper not so much.

Thanks, Appreciate that info. Richardson is a monster hope he develops and gets in. We could use him.
01-31-2018, 07:06 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

From what I understand, Richardson is solid, Cooper not so much.

Richardson redshirted at Mississippi Delta CC. That's pretty worriesome.

Honestly, we would probably be better off going after JUCO's or grad transfers than taking them back.
01-31-2018, 07:07 PM
Turfdawg67

Spill what you’ve heard before we see MSState7’s cut and paste response on JoMo’s recruiting abilities. Eddie’s Twitter says he’s taking a break from social media...
01-31-2018, 07:09 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bully13

So it's a use it or lose it? No carry over?

Starting next year. No oversigning. And since we can't carry over scholarships if we undersign it basically is in effect this year as well.

So, every spot in the 25 is very important- and it's probably best to use those spots and then process down the road as necessary.
01-31-2018, 07:11 PM
Turfdawg67

Thanks, Appreciate that info. Richardson is a mobster hope he develops and gets in. We could use him.

This! Had high hopes for his development and contribution...
01-31-2018, 07:13 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

We'll sign a couple guys on signing day but it's not about to be what everyone wants. This staff needs to have a good 2019 class. They'll have a full year to work with so no excuses.

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