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I feel similar to how I felt after last offseason's portal haul. 6-6 is possible with the roster, but the point remains it feels like he just wasted a full year and has nothing to show for it. And he still has some glaring holes on defense we need to address.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
4 wins or less and he should be shown the door. 4 wins tells me that we'd be going through the exact same thing again next year.
With the new juco ruling, can booth come back if he chooses?
Yes, ncaa has approved a year for all in that situation. But still gonna fight it in court for upcoming years is my understanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We should really be pushing to get him back thenQuote:
Originally Posted by bigbub50
Hearing rumblings that Kelly A would be interested but booth would take some persuading, why? I do not know.
He wants to play in the NFL. Shelf life of RBs is short. That being said he should come back and make more and get another year in collegeQuote:
Originally Posted by bigbub50
Booth would go anywhere between a 6th round pick to a UDFA. He will get a shot to get a roster spot regardlessQuote:
Originally Posted by bigbub50
Maybe he should take another college pay day. There are a bunch of really good RBs that don't even get a shot in the nflQuote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
If we get Booth I'm putting us at 7 wins.
Bothwell has elite contact balance.
A RB room of Bothwell/Booth/Daniels is a really good RB room. Gotta find a way to talk Booth into staying.
Kelly A coming back would also be huge.
Need to lock up a really good slot receiver.
Let's not do this yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Yeah, I?d be happy with 4 wins next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Why? That should be a given year 2. OOC alone should be 3 no doubt and maybe 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
I?m taking all factors into consideration. I have no idea how good of a coach he is, as the talent level was abysmal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
👆👆👆👆been a State fan for at least 40 years. Used to losing regularly. Had a crush on his 4th grade teacher. Still uses the C7 colored Christmas lights.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
C7 lights rule!Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Pretty much missed the boat there, hoss.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
We should be able to win at least three of our OOC games. We should treat Arizona State like it's the Super Bowl. I think we would have beaten them in Starkville last year. I think USM will be a lot better and they'll be fired up with the game in Hattiesburg. We need to come out strong so we don't get into trouble there. Northern Illinois obviously beat Notre Dame. If we win our four OOC games then all we have to do is find two SEC wins. With the talent we have added I think we're going to start to trend up for the first time since 2022 and I think at least two of the SEC teams on our schedule will trend down just playing the odds in my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Without question we have more talent on defense. Actually I have more questions now about the offense than defense but not going to panic about it until at least the middle of January. If things go the way that is expected based on the experts my biggest concerns are becoming slot WR and OL.
So, which two SEC teams will State be better than that are on the schedule. Can't go out and pick the two worst.
USM is still a train wreck with leftovers from Marshall, NIU loses just about everybody, Alcorn LOL, ASU will lose a lot and being in the playoffs slows their portal roll a bit. Then you're basically looking at AR, MO, & OM as opportunities.
Get the right players and winning 4-6 is possible. Still a ways to go though, and assuming Hutz isn't the idiot he appeared to be
Mizzou will be whomever wants it more and Arky. Florida is still within the realm of being beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
So what’s the word today on our targets? When does the portal close and can they only sign during the portal window? Or is that just for visits? Thanks in advance and keep it coming. Ready to see us lock down some serious starters if we have to overpay like we been planning.
It seems possible to get 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Look closely at our DL on hand. Unless our holdovers get well and these new guys make big leaps, we are still in trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We should never be happy with 4 wins with any staff!Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
This. We should always win out in OOC and pick off at least 2 of 8 in the SEC at a minimum or we are a failure on staff hiring, evaluation/recruiting of players, scheme/in game coaching...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don't get the low expectations. If we are going to spend 12-13 million, bowling is a minimum. If 6 wins is the ceiling, we might as well not spend anything and just put that money to another sport.
Can’t do that. This sport keeps the lights on. The only other sport that matters is MBK and they appear to be set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
The lights are kept on by tv money from that sport rather than by wins or ticket sales so NIL money spent on it is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
Exactly. If it was based off wins, we would have been broke after the last two yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
I mean at least we are picking off a few guys that come from big schools and were hopefully stuck behind good players. Even though some of these guys didn’t play, surely they are upgrades over what we had last year. If not, our staff sucks. I didn’t think we were going out there and bringing in a bunch of heavy hitters just because have money now. We just had a 2-10 season and Iust about everyone has more money than us anyway. We just need to improve the roster and our record next year to show recruits we are going in the right direction. Hutzler has to show some coaching ability and Lebby better show some more “showtime”!! Then, hopefully in ‘26 we can really attract some players and put a stout roster together. 2025, to me, is about showing some pretty good improvement to make us as attractive as possible heading into ‘26. But also to your point, I do hope our future additions to this years portal class can better than what we have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Why would you not try to maximize your ROI on something that actually ya know, returns on the investment. If you can’t, then fine. If we have to accept we just can’t compete then we will. A lot of people already are. But if OM can compete so can we. The difference is wanting to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
They have also shown the are willing to pay big money for a sitting head coach who had stints at Tennessee, USC and the NFL before taking the directional Florida school to new heights. And they are able to sign higher rated players while being in a small State with 3 D1 schools. Ho is it they can get those and State cannot? There is an answer. You know it. Most on here know it. Who is going to say the truth out loud!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
If you want to talk ROI, 12 million for 6 wins total ain't much of an ROI.... would be a better use of funds to be used in baseball/basketballQuote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
I'm old enough to remember when $200K to Pastor Newton would have bought us a national championship***
Coastal Carolina DL down to us and Cincinnati. Monster DL from FCS just entered portal. One of the directional dekotas.
Fluff in the boat.
Hard to not be pleased with the effort of the staff so far.
I know we aren't done, but it's clear that we have had a plan for how to attack the portal and get some capable starting pieces and some depth at certain positions.
Lebby has really done well this portal cycle.
Are we on KC Concepcion? Maybe Hibbler cans get in his teammates ear for us
If we could get a few more of these DL, my outlook on Lebby changes a little bit. I still think some of the defensive staff need to be replaced though