The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

No need the fact you have to research tells me enough.

Drinking as well

Have a great weekend

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Lol, and tells you what exactly?

Miss band of Choctaw indians' chief, Cyrus Ben tested positive

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Originally Posted by Noxdog

And can safely say I'm more interested in the Severe weather thread. Hey REF come back out of retirement!!


Buncha dick measuring (on both sides) bitches. 112 pages for a back and forth between basically 8 posters?

Tell you how bad it's been. Msstate7 has been relatively calm during all of this. Kudos 7.


Will say I've been entertained and informed. Carry on.

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Aren't I always calm? Lol

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Originally Posted by Noxdog

And can safely say I'm more interested in the Severe weather thread. Hey REF come back out of retirement!!


Buncha dick measuring (on both sides) bitches. 112 pages for a back and forth between basically 8 posters?

Tell you how bad it's been. Msstate7 has been relatively calm during all of this. Kudos 7.


Will say I've been entertained and informed. Carry on.

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Informed?? Really?? What'd ya learn?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Aren't I always calm? Lol

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You always the calmest one in the eye of the storm. The calmest **

Concerns with that Stanford study of coronavirus prevalence

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.e...us-prevalence/

What's happening in Albany, GA? Anyone know? I've seen a lot of people saying it won't ever be bad around here because we're rural.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV0dNDeX...jpg&name=large

1400 cases, 90 deaths in Dougherty County (Albany)

More deaths than Fulton County

Funerals. Spread like wildfire.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rus/index.html

But I'm sure that couldn't happen in rural MS***

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

Funerals. Spread like wildfire.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rus/index.html

But I'm sure that couldn't happen in rural MS***

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Yep - rural areas are already the next wave. Cases up significantly yesterday in places like the Dakotas.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/2994619001/

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Yep - rural areas are already the next wave. Cases up significantly yesterday in places like the Dakotas.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/2994619001/

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Everyone... well, most everyone is gonna get it, and there's nothing we can do to stop it. Shelter in place isn't to prevent cases but to spread them out. At some point, we gonna have to start up.

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Originally Posted by hacker

What's happening in Albany, GA? Anyone know? I've seen a lot of people saying it won't ever be bad around here because we're rural.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV0dNDeX...jpg&name=large

1400 cases, 90 deaths in Dougherty County (Albany)

More deaths than Fulton County

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Go to any gas station in rural Mississippi and watch. Several times I’ve been the ONLY person wearing a mask and sanitizing my hands before I ever sit back down in my truck. Went to Kieth’s Superstore on 49 just north of Hattiesburg yesterday. I had to run in for a second. I was the only customer in there wearing a mask and the place was packed. People standing in line buying food off the deli station. Workers were wearing masks but the lady serving had hers pulled below her nose.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Yep - rural areas are already the next wave. Cases up significantly yesterday in places like the Dakotas.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/2994619001/

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Rural areas have high percentages of older and poor people. Younger, educated people leave the rural areas.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Rural areas have high percentages of older and poor people. Younger, educated people leave the rural areas.

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The biggest thing is that they have the most limited access to medical services. Rural hospitals are almost non-existent. It is also a population that historically eschews doctors anyway, meaning they might not begin to seek care until it is too late. The potential for this to decimate rural areas is real and Albany is a good example because it is a rural hub city - so it is the only real medical access for almost an hour any direction.

New Boston antibody test is promising. 200 people on the street who had no positive test were tested for antibodies and 64 showed antibodies. Small sample size, but great news!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/17/business/nearly-third-200-blood-samples-taken-chelsea-show-exposure-coronavirus/%3foutputType=amp

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

The biggest thing is that they have the most limited access to medical services. Rural hospitals are almost non-existent. It is also a population that historically eschews doctors anyway, meaning they might not begin to seek care until it is too late. The potential for this to decimate rural areas is real and Albany is a good example because it is a rural hub city - so it is the only real medical access for almost an hour any direction.

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Correct BrunswickDawg! All rural areas have nursing homes and if it gets into those locations, then it's game over. When you add the need for extensive care needed plus the lack of acute care locations - it will decimate those vulnerable people.

I'm not one to live in fear, but to say it won't impact rural areas due to population density is naive.

New chart from MSDH:

https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static...by-date-18.png

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/n...0uofkK

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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked

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Try this one
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/n...us-deaths.html

Also, From same publication on Friday
"New York City increased its death count by more than 3,700 on Tuesday, after officials said they were now including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it."

I posted these from a notorious liberal outlet so let's just see what happens over the next few weeks

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

This virus sucks but it's not that bad man. It's not the damn bubonic plague.

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77 said that 80% recovery rate was good odds. I'm going strictly off his bad numbers. By his measure it's actually safer to play Russian Roulette than it is to get Coronavirus. And he thinks it's good odds.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

liberal want it to be as bad as possible. They see it as their only way of getting Biden into the white house.

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This is an example of the problem with the whole political landscape. You think it's about "getting my guy" (Biden is not my guy) in. You vilify the other side to make yourself feel like the good guys. Newsflash. Both sides want this country to thrive. We have different opinions on how. Both sides want this country to be run the best possible way. When one side points out that Trump is doing a shit job, it's not because they hate him, ITS BECAUSE HES DOING A SHIT JOB. The man used twitter to incite riots for ****s sake. There's nothing to defend him on this. He dropped the ball and has kicked it down the hill. Now he's got a shovel and is digging as deep of a hole as possible for it. He's ****ing up my country and as an American that pisses me off.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

That is where you are wrong. That hate for Trump is powerful.

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Every comment I read of yours tells me you don't see other humans as humans but as devils trying to destroy your life. Yikes. (See how I flipped it around on you and are telling you what you think. Kinda how you are saying "all liberals hate trump. nope i'm right I know what they are thinking.)

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Not sure why you're patting yourself on the back here when you were way off.

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~2k people die from this every day, do you think this is over???? I'm one of the few who gave out a prediction and that was without social distancing coming into effect. So uhhh... I don't know why you're talking shit like you're the "right one" and that this virus is over. It ain't.

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

You are spot on. This shut down is 70-80% due to the trump hate couldn't impeach him
Trump shuts down China travel. Left: He is a vile person
Trump shuts down travel to Europe. He is a vile person
Ventilators?? We have an excess in some states
Trump pushed for stimulus. Dems wanted it shut down
Now pushing for more federal funding for small business.... left voted it down
Opening the country back up
Nope we are against it for 18 months unless your gonna pay us. Look at all the Dems wanting handouts for their states... those states are operating at a deficient
Now left are mad cause we don't have enough test....
It goes on and on
It's the left that's pushing what Dan the commi man wants. Fear fear fear. Don't let trump get re-elected
They have resulted in shutting down the country because of their hate of trump

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You're a lost cause.

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

Not trying to flame you but I'd like to know what could he have done differently?

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Most people who criticize him say what they would have done better. But I don't expect you to get that far before you've turned off the "liberal hate speech" and went back to your Trumpoganda cave.

Here's a few though: He could have not done the recent twitter outburst inciting riots. He could have acknowledged this a month earlier than he did instead of calling it the "left's new hoax." He could have not left it up to the governors and made an earlier unilateral decision to prevent the state to state spread and cause it to be contained (and thusly be able to reopen individual states as we go.) Could have not thrown 55 million dollars of taxpayer money away on a bad deal that will give us nothing. Could actually support small businesses and the working class with the CARES act instead of spending so much time trying to bail out big businesses who can afford to go thin for a few months. Ask small business owner friends you know how much help they've gotten so far. It will probably surprise you.

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

No need the fact you have to research tells me enough.

Drinking as well

Have a great weekend

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LMFAOOOOOOO. "The fact you have to research tells me enough."

Wow. Someone is offering to give you a deep dive into the past 2 months of failures with sources and you ridicule them for that? You're literally anti-knowledge.

I'm sorry for everyone who aligns ideals with this twat. He fosters the bad reputation and helps widen the divide between sides.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

77 said that 80% recovery rate was good odds. I'm going strictly off his bad numbers. By his measure it's actually safer to play Russian Roulette than it is to get Coronavirus. And he thinks it's good odds.



This is an example of the problem with the whole political landscape. You think it's about "getting my guy" (Biden is not my guy) in. You vilify the other side to make yourself feel like the good guys. Newsflash. Both sides want this country to thrive. We have different opinions on how. Both sides want this country to be run the best possible way. When one side points out that Trump is doing a shit job, it's not because they hate him, ITS BECAUSE HES DOING A SHIT JOB. The man used twitter to incite riots for ****s sake. There's nothing to defend him on this. He dropped the ball and has kicked it down the hill. Now he's got a shovel and is digging as deep of a hole as possible for it. He's ****ing up my country and as an American that pisses me off.



Every comment I read of yours tells me you don't see other humans as humans but as devils trying to destroy your life. Yikes. (See how I flipped it around on you and are telling you what you think. Kinda how you are saying "all liberals hate trump. nope i'm right I know what they are thinking.)



~2k people die from this every day, do you think this is over???? I'm one of the few who gave out a prediction and that was without social distancing coming into effect. So uhhh... I don't know why you're talking shit like you're the "right one" and that this virus is over. It ain't.



You're a lost cause.



Most people who criticize him say what they would have done better. But I don't expect you to get that far before you've turned off the "liberal hate speech" and went back to your Trumpoganda cave.

Here's a few though: He could have not done the recent twitter outburst inciting riots. He could have acknowledged this a month earlier than he did instead of calling it the "left's new hoax." He could have not left it up to the governors and made an earlier unilateral decision to prevent the state to state spread and cause it to be contained (and thusly be able to reopen individual states as we go.) Could have not thrown 55 million dollars of taxpayer money away on a bad deal that will give us nothing. Could actually support small businesses and the working class with the CARES act instead of spending so much time trying to bail out big businesses who can afford to go thin for a few months. Ask small business owner friends you know how much help they've gotten so far. It will probably surprise you.



LMFAOOOOOOO. "The fact you have to research tells me enough."

Wow. Someone is offering to give you a deep dive into the past 2 months of failures with sources and you ridicule them for that? You're literally anti-knowledge.

I'm sorry for everyone who aligns ideals with this twat. He fosters the bad reputation and helps widen the divide between sides.

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I have stayed off this page today but did look at a few times including just a few minutes ago
I don't know you and really don't care to ever know you.
Your constant need for attention tells me you're likely around 24-29. Don't fully have a grasp of the real world and would rather argue than debate
Your a spiteful person who only comes here to start a fight or post dribble.
I'm not gonna post in this thread anymore. I think most would agree your post are insufferable And scream look at me. This is conducive to your age group. You get your kicks from attacking others.
Have a good weekend

"Unilateral decision to prevent the state to state spread and cause it to be contained . . . ."

I'm all for justified criticism, but please explain what your statement above would look like, keeping in mind the 10th Amendment.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

77 said that 80% recovery rate was good odds. I'm going strictly off his bad numbers. By his measure it's actually safer to play Russian Roulette than it is to get Coronavirus. And he thinks it's good odds.



This is an example of the problem with the whole political landscape. You think it's about "getting my guy" (Biden is not my guy) in. You vilify the other side to make yourself feel like the good guys. Newsflash. Both sides want this country to thrive. We have different opinions on how. Both sides want this country to be run the best possible way. When one side points out that Trump is doing a shit job, it's not because they hate him, ITS BECAUSE HES DOING A SHIT JOB. The man used twitter to incite riots for ****s sake. There's nothing to defend him on this. He dropped the ball and has kicked it down the hill. Now he's got a shovel and is digging as deep of a hole as possible for it. He's ****ing up my country and as an American that pisses me off.



Every comment I read of yours tells me you don't see other humans as humans but as devils trying to destroy your life. Yikes. (See how I flipped it around on you and are telling you what you think. Kinda how you are saying "all liberals hate trump. nope i'm right I know what they are thinking.)



~2k people die from this every day, do you think this is over???? I'm one of the few who gave out a prediction and that was without social distancing coming into effect. So uhhh... I don't know why you're talking shit like you're the "right one" and that this virus is over. It ain't.



You're a lost cause.



Most people who criticize him say what they would have done better. But I don't expect you to get that far before you've turned off the "liberal hate speech" and went back to your Trumpoganda cave.

Here's a few though: He could have not done the recent twitter outburst inciting riots. He could have acknowledged this a month earlier than he did instead of calling it the "left's new hoax." He could have not left it up to the governors and made an earlier unilateral decision to prevent the state to state spread and cause it to be contained (and thusly be able to reopen individual states as we go.) Could have not thrown 55 million dollars of taxpayer money away on a bad deal that will give us nothing. Could actually support small businesses and the working class with the CARES act instead of spending so much time trying to bail out big businesses who can afford to go thin for a few months. Ask small business owner friends you know how much help they've gotten so far. It will probably surprise you.



LMFAOOOOOOO. "The fact you have to research tells me enough."

Wow. Someone is offering to give you a deep dive into the past 2 months of failures with sources and you ridicule them for that? You're literally anti-knowledge.

I'm sorry for everyone who aligns ideals with this twat. He fosters the bad reputation and helps widen the divide between sides.

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Link where I said I thought the "virus was over"? I'm not sure why you were taking shit to me in the first place honestly. It's definitely not as bad in America as many feared. I've never said anything about the rest of the world.

But hey! If you want to challenge someone on the front lines who has actually seen what is going on with your "knowledge" by all means...

Just know that the media lies are very apparent if only America could see it first hand. Pretty eye opening to me.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

"Unilateral decision to prevent the state to state spread and cause it to be contained . . . ."

I'm all for justified criticism, but please explain what your statement above would look like, keeping in mind the 10th Amendment.

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Oh i'm sorry I thought he had total authority. Forgot to fact check my source, didn't think I would have to since it's the president.***

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Link where I said I thought the "virus was over"? I'm not sure why you were taking shit to me in the first place honestly. It's definitely not as bad in America as many feared. I've never said anything about the rest of the world.

But hey! If you want to challenge someone on the front lines who has actually seen what is going on with your "knowledge" by all means...

Just know that the media lies are very apparent if only America could see it first hand. Pretty eye opening to me.

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You're the one attacking me for a back of the envelope super early prediction that with stats that you were touting would end up being close to right. I'm just confused why.

And for the record I asked you why you are talking like it is. I never said you said the virus is over. And there was nothing about the rest of the world. 2k people die everyday in the UNITED STATES.

I'm not challenging you... you're challenging me.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

"Unilateral decision to prevent the state to state spread and cause it to be contained . . . ."

I'm all for justified criticism, but please explain what your statement above would look like, keeping in mind the 10th Amendment.

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Sorry didn't add my non-snarky reply to this.

If we would have had a unified front and been able to contain this from state to state at the beginning of march like we were with the shutdowns, many states like Mississippi would have already been fully reopened before April started. New York and a couple others would still be ****ed but as a group we would not be going through it.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Oh i'm sorry I thought he had total authority. Forgot to fact check my source, didn't think I would have to since it's the president.***



You're the one attacking me for a back of the envelope super early prediction that with stats that you were touting would end up being close to right. I'm just confused why.

And for the record I asked you why you are talking like it is. I never said you said the virus is over. And there was nothing about the rest of the world. 2k people die everyday in the UNITED STATES.

I'm not challenging you... you're challenging me.

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Ok no link? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Oh i'm sorry I thought he had total authority. Forgot to fact check my source, didn't think I would have to since it's the president.***



You're the one attacking me for a back of the envelope super early prediction that with stats that you were touting would end up being close to right. I'm just confused why.

And for the record I asked you why you are talking like it is. I never said you said the virus is over. And there was nothing about the rest of the world. 2k people die everyday in the UNITED STATES.

I'm not challenging you... you're challenging me.

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I'm not sure what you mean, but the President in no way, shape, or form has total authority just because he is the president. This isn't China. Perfect example, he doesn't have the authority to reopen any individual state right now.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ok no link? Thanks.

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"I don't know why you're talking shit like you're the "right one" and that this virus is over"

Ok no link showing where I said you said the virus is over? Thanks.

Bad straw man argument is bad.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

I'm not sure what you mean, but the President in no way, shape, or form has total authority just because he is the president. This isn't China. Perfect example, he doesn't have the authority to reopen any individual state right now.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dhni0fYpnXI

Only watch about the first minute or so. The CNN commentary as always is outlandish. This is nowhere near trump's biggest melt

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Sorry didn't add my non-snarky reply to this.

If we would have had a unified front and been able to contain this from state to state at the beginning of march like we were with the shutdowns, many states like Mississippi would have already been fully reopened before April started. New York and a couple others would still be ****ed but as a group we would not be going through it.

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Not true at all. We'd still be closed at least to a point. A couple weeks wouldn't have changed much at all.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Not true at all. We'd still be closed at least to a point. A couple weeks wouldn't have changed much at all.

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I disagree but to each their own and I feel like the main point is that if he would have treated this not as the liberals new hoax and would have been two more weeks in front of it then we would be infinitely better off. In the scheme of what he's ****ed up on this, his lateness in accepting this virus's reality isn't highest on the list.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

"I don't know why you're talking shit like you're the "right one" and that this virus is over"

Ok no link showing where I said you said the virus is over? Thanks.

Bad straw man argument is bad.

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It's not a straw man if YOU are the ones putting words into my mouth. Maybe that's why you get so many "ad hominem" attacks. The exact quote was "I'm not sure why you are patting yourself on the back when he was wrong."

I don't think it's over nor did I ever say it was. YOU'RE the one that said that not me. I said your to clarify what I meant projected death totals were off and I'm not sure why you were patting yourself on that back about that.

But carry on with whatever wrong bullshit you're going to post next but leave me out of it and don't tell me what I'm thinking to try to deflect and make yourself look better. Just say I misunderstood and move on.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It's not a straw man if YOU are the ones putting words into my mouth. Maybe that's why you get so many "ad hominem" attacks. The exact quote was "I'm not sure why you are patting yourself on the back when he was wrong."

I don't think it's over nor did I ever say it was. YOU'RE the one that said that not me. I said your to clarify what I meant projected death totals were off and I'm not sure why you were patting yourself on that back about that.

But carry on with whatever wrong bullshit you're going to post next but leave me out of it and don't tell me what I'm thinking to try to deflect and make yourself look better. Just say I misunderstood and move on.

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I NEVER SAID YOU SAID IT WAS. I SAID YOU WERE TALKING LIKE IT WAS OVER. I DID NOT SAY YOU SAID IT WAS OVER. Jesus I don't get why people have to try to be right in every ****ing conversation and just double down when they are wrong. *******.

It's a straw man. You created a false argument (me saying you said it's over) and attacked it.

Saying a total prediction is wrong when this isn't over implies that you are talking like it is over. This isn't hard Todd, you're smarter than this. Stop doubling down on me being the boogeyman. I swear if I said the sky was blue someone of you would argue it.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Sorry didn't add my non-snarky reply to this.

If we would have had a unified front and been able to contain this from state to state at the beginning of march like we were with the shutdowns, many states like Mississippi would have already been fully reopened before April started. New York and a couple others would still be ****ed but as a group we would not be going through it.

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That's fine, but what through me off was the "unilateral decision" comment. He couldn't do that if he wanted to. If you are upset about a delay in a state shutting down, that anger should be directed at that state's governor, not the President. Trumps tune became more serious long before individual states began making the decision to shut down.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

That's fine, but what through me off was the "unilateral decision" comment. He couldn't do that if he wanted to. If you are upset about a delay in a state shutting down, that anger should be directed at that state's governor, not the President. Trumps tune became more serious long before individual states began making the decision to shut down.

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Well this was in response to what trump specifically did wrong. Not getting into specific governors but trust me the one in my state is getting raked over the coals for his response too. Also Trump's tune was not serious long before. It was the same week as most states that he flipped.

With the unilateral comment I should have thrown some sarcasterisks in there initially. If you watched the video I linked in another comment you'd have context for that.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Well this was in response to what trump specifically did wrong. Not getting into specific governors but trust me the one in my state is getting raked over the coals for his response too. Also Trump's tune was not serious long before. It was the same week as most states that he flipped.

With the unilateral comment I should have thrown some sarcasterisks in there initially. If you watched the video I linked in another comment you'd have context for that.

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What state you in?

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

I NEVER SAID YOU SAID IT WAS. I SAID YOU WERE TALKING LIKE IT WAS OVER. I DID NOT SAY YOU SAID IT WAS OVER. Jesus I don't get why people have to try to be right in every ****ing conversation and just double down when they are wrong. *******.

It's a straw man. You created a false argument (me saying you said it's over) and attacked it.

Saying a total prediction is wrong when this isn't over implies that you are talking like it is over. This isn't hard Todd, you're smarter than this. Stop doubling down on me being the boogeyman. I swear if I said the sky was blue someone of you would argue it.

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I just don't like it when people put words in my mouth and tell ME what I'm thinking.

And since you think you know everything tell me what I'm thinking right now?

If I said the sky was blue you would tell me I was talking like I said it was purple. And then tell me it was strawman AFTER I told you my intent and then insisted that wasn't my real intent.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

What state you in?

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Probably China.**

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

I disagree but to each their own and I feel like the main point is that if he would have treated this not as the liberals new hoax and would have been two more weeks in front of it then we would be infinitely better off. In the scheme of what he's ****ed up on this, his lateness in accepting this virus's reality isn't highest on the list.

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Name all the 17ing states that shut down weeks before us that are open. Not a 17ing one. So you're wrong again.

Not sure how you can say it's not as bad as predicted when we are sitting at 41k dead and no one has reopened yet. What someone may be seeing in their area on the "front lines" doesn't paint this picture accurately. I'd guess 90% of hospitals in this country are running less than average occupancy essentially by design right now. So if you're in a hospital chances are you're not "feeling" the hype.

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

Not sure how you can say it's not as bad as predicted when we are sitting at 41k dead and no one has reopened yet. What someone may be seeing in their area on the "front lines" doesn't paint this picture accurately. I'd guess 90% of hospitals in this country are running less than average occupancy essentially by design right now. So if you're in a hospital chances are you're not "feeling" the hype.

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It's not as bad because the initial predictions by Dr. Fauci were much much higher. One big reason why the hospitals are running at a lower capacity in general is because they were all trying to prepare for the worst.

And now we're starting to talk about re-opening states in phases.