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I don't expect Holman (but have no facts)
I expect Montgomery
I expect we'll see a couple new pitcher names soon.
Holding out hope for Holman. We've thrown everything we've got at him. We've done all we can and that's a lot.
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We should not be in this situation. You said "we have done all we can and that's a lot", it's seems a little late after two pitiful season to think that way. If we recruit looking ahead especially with the momentum we had Iwe wouldn't be chasing now as hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
It's not Msu Baseball that I grew to love.
It is over with. Holman should announced for LSU today
I would have loved to have Holman, is he a difference maker, IFFY but maybe better than what we have now. We lose Montgomery and I expect all hell to break out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Sad indeed.
I'm not talking about anything but recruiting a couple guys in the portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Move alongQuote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
The national champs are in the same position- they had to pull portal pitching to remain good. It’s baseball 2023.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
The MSU baseball you grew up with is dead. The entire SEC cares about baseball now. In 2020
And 2021- we were in the Top 20 in the country in recruiting and that’s good. But we were 8th in the SEC. That’s modern SEC baseball
That is not the same position. Adding talent to maintain versus adding talent to increase are two totally different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
And we finished 14th and 13th in the conference. That's modern Lemo baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
LSU has already pulled WAY more talent than us though, amd they started from a better position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We lost our best starter (Smith), best reliever (Nixon), our best hitter per the overall stats (Ledbetter) our 3rd best hitter per overall stats (Clark)... and all we added in the Portal is an upgraded 3B, the 5+ERA Miami guy, and... uh... Hope Hujesak makes a massive jump, and hope Montgomery comes, and hope our 8+ ERA guys turn into studs this offseason, and hope every guy coming g back from TJ is ready to go? It's an epic failure so far. We probably have a few of these things break our way, a few break bad for us, but overall I don't see any evidence the team will be significantly improved
LSU went out to Tulane and got a better ace than our Miami guy, is now landing Holman, landed an Arizona OF with better stats than Montgomery, and got a very highly rated by scouts pitcher from UCLA coming back from TJ as a lottery ticket. Will they win the NC next year? Probably not. But they used the Portal to add 2 stud starters and a stud bat, we used it to get 1 ok starter and 1 ok bat.
They are working to bring in weekend starters just as we are- its exactly the same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
They also lost alot more than we did. They lost CF, 1B, 2B, SS, DH and others.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I'm not sure what your point is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
How does LSU loosing more than us make me feel better about our own failure to improve our team?
LSU could have gotten zero players from the Portal, it doesnt make our current '24 outlook any better. We're only using LSU as a Portal example to show that it is possible to have much better hauls than ours. We could talk about TN if you want to. Or Arky (they got a Friday stud we desperately need).
LSU will be better than us next year, partially because they have a good HC and we don't, partially because they have a much better Portal class
It was obvious that we made the wrong choice in bringing back Lemonis in May, and it's still obvious today. He's just not going to cut it at the level we aspire and deserve to be at.
But hey, we saved $6 million. **Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Who made a promise about Holman? I've literally seen nobody say thatQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
No that was his buyout in May. Next years it's like $3M. Plus Parker probably has a $500k+ buyout so in the end keeping Lemo probably saves $2.5M. Throwing away a baseball season and letting the program slide back more (which hurts recruiting) over $2.5m...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
Ding ding ding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
People were cryptic and refused to say names. Whether that's because they A) didn't want to say names and piss off the player by leaking it, B) because they were talking out of their ass and wanted to stay vague, or C) because they wanted keep that info for some other reason, I can't sayQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
But go back and read the comments. People said we had plural massive commits. That us naysayers would "eat crow when the news drops". That we were on "big arms" with an implication we'd land one. My honest recollection is that some of them were about Hollman, could be wrong on that though. No, I'm not going to find every instance, cite names, or bother to give exact quotes. Yes, some of those comments may have been discussing Burns or another guy we also didnt land. There's 50 pages of comments you can go through if you want to know details.
To be honest this whole thing has exhausted me. I'm watching State Baseball fall apart and have had to argue over the very basics of our situation with people who ignore my points and come up with convoluted arguments to pretend all is well. I'm over it. We will suck next year as everyone with a brain can see, lemo will get fired, the program will be in a bad spot, and the same people who are saying well be good next year will flip to saying they always knew we'd suck. And I'll be here to call them out. But today there's no point
We were only promised "silent commitments"
Holman is going to visually play for LSU but remain silently committed to Lemonis.
Lemonis is going to be nice guy that players call about to complain about their jerk Real Coach. Like Polk used to be with Ben McDonald. Friends with Polk but playing for Skip Bertman.