I came in with 247 (8 years) and didn't really like it. As time went on I got over it and the content is a whole lot better.
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I came in with 247 (8 years) and didn't really like it. As time went on I got over it and the content is a whole lot better.
And it was called the Spirit before the merger.
Oh I don't mind the content. I just think it's stupid to name the website "Gene's Page" when literally every other school has a site name that promotes the school and not a weird, sunshine pumping photographer.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
Aw c'mon KO, The Spirit sounds like it's promoting my church. And a sunshine pumping photographer is better than Tyler Horka, who promotes Mississippi more than us. And have you been reading Gene's Skuttlebut? Really good insight into prospects in the next recruiting classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
"The Spirit" is dumb as hell too, I'll give you that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
I have read his Skuttlebut but it's mostly about 2023 or 2024 kids so it's hard for me to get interested in freshmen and sophomores right now.
He hit some 2022 guys especially after that little combine in Flowood or wherever. I think he's just taking them as they come to him. I would guess through HS coaches that call him, Gene knows a lot of those guys he's been doing this for so long . I don't mind scoping out the 23 and 24 guys to get their names in my mind. Heck I'm so old I might not get to see those guys play, but I can hope! Another advantage when these young kids get their names in a MSU site, it gets MSU on their mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Seems like very year we are deficient on the OL and DB. I would like to see what we could do if we could get quality athletes at these positions.
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Originally Posted by KOdawg1
To me his skuttlebutt is like here's a bunch of players that showed up to this camp from Clay-Chalkville in Alabama. I'm not sure how many of those prospects are legit to be honest. Although when you carpet bomb prospects like that eventually odds are you'll identify them but it's hard to identify who exactly is a legit prospect doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
We've usually done fine at DB. This year not so much. OL it seems like we constantly are having to backfill. Changing schemes is part of that I think. We needed three high school offensive linemen to go with Jackson and McMillan and we did that. We landed the top OL prospect in Cavazos and I think Reese is very underrated and is a legit LT prospect. We have some flexibility to take another one if we can find the right one but it's not necessary either.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
On the DB side- Forbes was a huge win last year and I think Dean will be very good as well as Richardson who is a four star guy. Obviously this year was concerning with a lot of misses but if we can get CJ Johnson to go with Ellington and then hit the portal hard we can salvage this. There were some mistakes made but also some things out of our control. If we had simply kept Toles I think people would feel a lot better- although at the same time he's going to USM and didn't have any other SEC offers. I think there is a better than average chance we get Walley to come back home from Minnesota in the portal. Daniels it sounds like we got out-Networked and that's something our staff may need to be more aware of next time.
Jean knows as much about talent evaluation as that white dog turd you run over cutting the grass. He likes to inject himself into shit to look important.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
The DeVinner stuff was the final straw for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
The other day he said, "You want to win as many recruiting battles as possible, but the thrill of the hunt is fun, too. The process of recruiting can be a lot of fun as long as you don't get caught up in the negatives. It's like the month of December leading up to Christmas day. There is a lot of fun to be had all the December days prior to Christmas. Focus on those days as well as the presents that you get and don't just focus on those presents that you want but don't get."Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
So basically as long as we have fun, it doesn't matter who we get. We're currently on a streak of losing battles with other schools for recruits, but if we're having fun, then that's all that matters.
Yeah, like I said, Gene is a moron.
Agree, and I literally can't remember the last time that the last few days of recruiting was 'fun' for any MSU fan. It always seems to come down to us trying to hold on for dear life with several of our best committed recruits.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
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Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Damn boys, ya'll take this way too seriously, hope you're keeping a check on your blood pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
If we don't pull some surprises in Feb, this class won't even finish 37th if you look at programs behind us. Signed, Worried.
It's a poor class. Hopefully, we can hit on a couple of portal guys. Haven't had a lot of luck in the porta thoughl except for Ruiz. Hopefully, the UCF transfer will pan out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
My blood pressure is fine, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
I've come to seriously hate recruiting, but that said, I certainly don't lose any sleep over it. I continue to say that college football is the WORST major sport out there as an overall product because its the only major sport (even including other college sports) that has such a lack of overall competitiveness. The separation in talent from the top 7 to 8 programs and everyone else is to the point that I realize, no matter what we do in recruiting, all we are really trying to achieve in the end is to get a slightly better bowl game.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
We were very lucky getting to the SEC Championship game in '98. Doubt we will ever see that happen again, at least probably nobody posting on this board now will see it happen again.
Maybe not, but as far as some of JWS teams, we had some badass players!Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
Jackie didn't miss on players like N. Strong. He thought being physical was the way to go at MSU. I remember he would say all the time that you didn't want to get in a track meet with the Florida's of the conference. He also talked about being able to get recruits to commit without asking them for the commitment. He was the GOAT.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
It really is sad that this is true. The sport may be popular(it's going down for me some) but the system we have now is not is going to make the sport grow. When 6-8 teams are the only ones that have a chance and the NCAA picks and chooses whose throat they want to put their foot on(penalties and sanctions) then we have a system that won't grow or attract more people. If the NCAA really had teeth and created a level playing field, I would enjoy watching this sport a whole lot more knowing that it was our coaches fault or players didnt work hard enough in the off season, not that we suck because we lost out on good players because we don't have the right "network" to scheme, plot and deceive our way to good players in order to win. Screw your NCAA, you worthless, toothless, nutsacks of an organization!! Sorry. Back to my glass of wine.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
The evolution of offenses and the inability for defenses to play real football any more has made recruiting discrepancies that much more obvious. A normal game in the 90s between a really good sec team and a middle of the road sec team was 35-21. A normal game now between Alabama and a normal SEC team is 62-10. Something has to change or the sport is going to die. I have not watched Alabama play a single game this year. Not one. And I put money on them to cover almost every week. I can’t even make myself watch them with money on the game. That’s insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
It's 3 that has shot every year and one of those gets a shot because of their name. It's Alabama and Clemson every year in CFP. Ohio State gets the love because they are Ohio State. No way a team should get in with 6 wins and played poorly the last 2 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
We are really at 30 right now. We have 1 recruit that has not been rated and one that has already signed but not announced (Anderson). We will finish somewhere around 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Anderson? What position does he play?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Defensive end. Deonte Anderson. He’s an Under Armor all American. He’s a 4 star on 247 but a 3 star composite. He signed his papers with us in the early signing period and asked us to hold off announcing so he could do it on tv on Jan 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogbone
Gotcha, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
It's not that bad. It should be top 30 after Anderson gets on board. The miss on Strong pissed me off, because I think LSU did whatever it took to flip him...and Nabers for that matter. They can do that though, we would get in trouble. There are several better ranked classes that I wouldn't trade for right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Maybe LSU cheated, but I think LSU is just a more attractive option to like 99% of recruitsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
If you aren't Top 25. It doesn't matter if you are 28 or you are 40. Not going to get it done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
It's ridiculous. The cheating and hoarding of talent has to be corrected somehow or this sport is going to be in slow decline I'm afraid. Nothing worse than not playing on a level playing field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
It shouldn't be more attractive to a guy that grew up as an MSU fan like Strong. Nabors makes more sense even though he was at the bottom of LSU's WR take list given he got the late offer he didn't have before and is a LA kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yep, just saw a video on 247 touting Bama's class as potentially the best recruiting class of all time. How lovely.***Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Nope. We all know what makes them more attractive at the last minute(stealing from a children's hospital). Just can't let people like strong get away. Heck, He was staring at a starting job with Errol going on. Lower the scholarship level and signing class size and Strong and Nabors are both yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Goes back to what I just earlier, if the NCAA won't do anything about taking from hospital, for crying out loud, to level the playing field then we better learn to do what ever it takes to keep guys committed(matching offers I guess).
And who's money do "WE" plan on usingQuote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
We already use money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
Our fans have to get out of this mindset that we're a squeaky clean program that would never pay players. We do. The bunch up the road does. The two SEC schools in Alabama do. LSU does. Every one does it.
If you want to be competitive, you have to play the game. You just do. The reason we get skull drug on signing day is because we're really bad at playing the game. And until we get serious about it, we'll continue to recruit in the lower 1/3 of the SEC.
Only the most naive fans would think we or any P5 program is squeaky clean, but I would categorize what we do as bringing a pocketknife to a gunfight.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
The difference in the class ranked 25 and the class ranked 30 is almost nothing. Especially now where you are going to get transfer portal guys who aren’t even counted in the rankings. We have a DE from UCF that would have been a high 3 star or low 4 star juco recruit and that would bump our class to around 25. In order for us to survive we have to take advantage of Jucos and the transfer portal. If we get 2 solid secondary guys to go along with the DE we already have from the portal I don’t care what the class finishes up as rankings wise. That doesn’t make our players any better. The portal is going to cause people to have to look deeper than just a class ranking. If we take a bunch of 3 star projects and end up ranked 27 instead of 32 but don’t fill immediate needs in the secondary I’m going to be much more pissed off than if we get a guy or 2 that can help but won’t count in the rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I agree but with the transfer portal there's no guarantee of return on investmentQuote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania