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Yes we are. If we can close on a few more DT to eat up run gaps, one more DB starter, and a legit tackle we are in great shape next year to win 6Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Edit: I?ll add WR to that list too. If we kept Coleman I?d be pretty happy with that group.
Whitsen and Finkley we feel really confident on. I thought it might be one of them. We are pretty confident on Moten and Fluff but you just never know with RBs. He definitely has a better chance to start here though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
A few? We have enough now. Don't forget we signed guys and red shirted others.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Huh? Maybe at edge. We need 2 more DT that can play. Running backup level dudes as your starters again next year is a death sentenceQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Do we still feel good about Finkley with Steve crystal ball Thomas and Whitson to us?
I?m still watching to see if Denver Harris jumps into the portal. If he does, I think we can get him.
JJ Harrell to Arkansas State. Really bad move by him to leave.
EmbarrassingQuote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
He wasn't begged to stay ....but he could haveQuote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
Harrell is an example of someone not wanting to wait their turn and then ending up worse off than if they had waited their turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Don't we need a nose tackle to plug the A gap in our 3-4?Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
I hope we move to a 3-4 or even a 4-3 if we have quick, fast, and in a hurry edge guys!
I said it in another thread, but you aren't going to see any team run a straight 3-4 or 4-3 more than 20-25% of the time. Everyone runs some form of a nickel defense as their base defense. It's a lot harder to defend spread formations from a 4-3 or a 3-4.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Fact. Saban, Kirby, everyone is running more of a nickel as the majority defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Saban tree coaches run a lot of dime as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Few years away for sure but I think this changes back. You see this in the NFL now there are no more 40 TD 4500 yard passers like there was for a good stretch the past decade. Offensives are adapting back to RBs being important since defenses went small with an extra DB. We will see another Ashton Jeanty season soonQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I wouldn't say revamping, I'd call it roster building. Obviously LB is revamped but not a lot of difference makers other than our safety spot. But that roster had to be built up and this is pretty much year one for Lebby. Need to finish strong before I can say we've really revamped but the roster is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He wasn't very good eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Possible. Only thing that could stop more of that is the harsh rules in pass coverage , so it incentivizes teams to throw more. Plus the game is boring when its 10-7 with 15 passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Eh, I doubt it. I think what you will see is these offensive minded coaches figure out a way to throw the ball efficiently against two high. I think this "renewed" importance of the RB is just a blip on the radar.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
You act as if we have 0 DT's on the team. Only 4 will play on Saturday, 5 max. If you're not the starter you're a backup. They're not many Chris Jones, Fletcher Cox, and Jeffrey Simmons walking around. We've been blessed to have signed generational talent. However, we're not far off.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Yeah, all three should probably make HOF and two will. That?s unheard of in a span of 10 years, certainly unheard of at State.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Look at the NFL. It?s literally happening now. There was a massive devalue of the RB position and now we are back to the norm. Mahomes isnt throwing for 4000 yards a season anymore. The best QBs are dual threat guys now because defenses have adapted. It isnt just about 2 high, its about the overall speed and smaller players on the field, you exploit that with the power game. Big reason why the Eagles are 12-2 with a QB who can?t really throwQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I hateeeeee when I see this argument trying to insinuate that I am talking about guys who are NFL All Pros. That is obviously not what I?m saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
You made my point in your post by saying if you aren?t a starter you are a backup.
What I'm saying is I believe we have signed starters and we have the other 2 on the roster. Anything else is just gravy.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Fair enough. I don?t personally think we have gotten anyone we can count on as a starter but I?ll trust the coaches if they think they can roll with our current group.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Good call. Because the coaches are the ones who will fall on their swords if they continue to try and play SEC football with Delta State talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Come again? Joe Burrow literally has 39 TD passes and 4K yards right now. Lamar Jackson the poster boy for mobile QB's has 37 TD passes and 3787.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
The biggest thing about running backs is they're going to have to be guys that can run and catch for the most part. Alvin Kamara types that are essentially athletes. Typically RB's that are going to get between 2-6 catches a game.
I remember Holmgren and the 49ers beating it by running a bunch of posts in Super Bowl 24. It was pretty much a TD every time they wanted it to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
And the bengals will miss the playoffs. Yes of course it’s still going to happen but it’s clear the NFL offensive minds are moving away from it. Burrow might get to 4500 and maybe GoffQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
And it doesn't sound like we're quite done yet either. If we can land Whitson to go along with Bledsoe and Burroughs that is a STRONG DT portal class. We also added Hibbler at DE who had 6.5 sacks in 2023 before redshirting this year and with all of these EDGE guys we're bringing in I feel certain one of them will be a hybrid DE/OLB guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
There are more teams throwing the ball 60%+ than ever. Almost every team is at 50% and most of the ones under 50% are at 48%. None of that says running back resurgence to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Also, those numbers include designed QB runs and scrambles so even the teams at 48% are probably around 50% in terms of play calling.
Yes, QB's are more mobile than ever but they use their legs as an emergency escape option and to extend plays which are of course passing plays.
And as I said running backs are really becoming more utility players than true running backs. Meaning guys that can catch and run the ball. The John Riggins in the NFL are just as extinct as the Dan Marino's.
Also, I don't think the QB's are nearly as good either. Back in the 2000's you had Brady, Favre, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Peyton, Kurt Warner, Brees, etc. Right now it's Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and who else? Dak? You also had guys like Montana, Young, Marino, Elway, Aikman, Kelly, Moon, etc. in the 1980 and 1990's and that group was WAY better than this group of QB's.
Check out 2018 to 2024. You can see YoY passing percentage is slowly trending down. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...ate=2019-02-04Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
And this is the reason scoring is down in the NFL. Running the ball isn't going to produce points.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
What?s everyone hearing on Fluff? Someone messaged me this morning saying he was OM bound any truth to that?
I mean he was OM bound yesterday due to visiting there. If he goes there he will transfer though. He wants to be an RB1 and their room is too full. He has a better chance here. Either way we are fine. We're either going to take him or the JUCO kid. They're basically the same player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
To answer your question though, we are quietly confident on him.
It's also an example of bad advice. He was told that he could get a bag from OM if he went in the portal and so he jumped in and they didn't want him. He tried to visit multiple times. From what I was told, he realized he screwed up about 3-4 days into this cycle, but it was too late to try and come back at that point. We had moved on. He's not a kid who was going to play next year either. It would have been a minimum of two more years before we could count on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
10-4 that?s what I like to hear. If we land Whitson and Thomas where do things stand with FinkleyQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We would still take him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
Yes exactly. Defensive minds adjusted and have caught up to the rule changes that produced these astronomical passing numbers in the 2010s. It will make its way to college in a few years as well. Rules will eventually change to compensate. Rinse and repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21