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11-13-2019, 07:12 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

That’s the debate though, we have seen his system in the SEC already and it didn’t really work but in spurts. Now the question is would him running it yield better results since running it at Kentucky all those years ago? That’s the question but I think it is more than a fair debate whether or not it would succeed at a non traditional school in the SEC.

They had the #1 HS QB in the nation and it only worked in spurts. I don't recall UK beating a path to Leach's door when their job was opening. Guess they didn't want that offense back either.
11-13-2019, 08:53 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

They had the #1 HS QB in the nation and it only worked in spurts. I don't recall UK beating a path to Leach's door when their job was opening. Guess they didn't want that offense back either.

The offense worked but their defense not so much.
11-13-2019, 08:56 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Yes, let?s trade our WR commit who?s got SEC offers for a WR with a Liberty and CSUSA offers. Who gives a 17 about a state Juco award? We?ve got enough WR slots filled by kids that aren?t good enough. Drummond was the guy last year and he?s no difference maker at OM.

Sorta like Guidry. Drummond is playing for aRich Rod offense with a Qb who can't throw.
11-13-2019, 09:09 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

So a quarter of his catches came in 1 game? Got it.

I never said what offense I'd pick. I said I didn't think it would work at MSU.

It's funny you've gone from we should offer Brownlee to Bester was good to Bester was better than Guidry to Bester had 1 good game against Bama to we should run EMCC offense to Leach offense better than Joe's. All because I didn't think we should off Brownlee.

We will see, Brownlee will have a better career from this point on than Heath.IMHO, I have watched them Both. Oh you really expounded on that. Bester Started for a Sugar Bowl Winner and Guidry has played for State. Guidry has 19 catches this year. You said Scooba ran the same offense as Leach's. I said both would be better that Jomos , shit that is obvious.
And it didn't have shit to do with your opinion of offering Brownlee.. I hope I'm wrong , I hope Heath turns into a bad M'fer but so far at all levels He hasn't been much of a factor. His Highschool team was awful, and this year a usually good Co-Lin is awful. He wasn't even the best WRs on a shitty team. So thanks for your opinions enjoyed our discourse.
11-13-2019, 09:20 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

The offense worked but their defense not so much.

Eh, like I said in spurts and Leach defenses are bad still (outside of Grinch a couple of years). But where it really counts they won 5, 7, 6 and 2 wins with Mumme and 2 and 7 wins with Morris (was a part of them). That’s not exactly setting the conference on fire and the bottom years were really bad offensively. Rich Brooks was much better once he cleaned up their mess.
11-13-2019, 11:24 PM
Irondawg

I’m fine with us getting Heath but I do worry he’s another guy with good measurables that don’t translate on the field. But concerning Brownlee to me the question would be if he’s better than Ducking. Both recent Hudl highlights show them mostly catching passes against air but they seem to be similar players. Duck will block but just looks like he’s slow out of the block, but so was Bear and that turned out fine. Hope the staff chose wisely.
11-14-2019, 11:03 AM
Ari Gold

3 years ago this board would have been 100% full blown melt down if we offered Brownlee over Heath
Or if Heath would have ( and he should have ) been eligible out of high school and choose a Fla or OM over State ..full meltdown would have been the result.

Saying that no one knows who will be a better D1college player or have a better careerHeath or Brownlee
But I will roll the dice with Heath
Hell we may get them both in the end.. I don’t think we are going to take another juco WR but it’s known that Patterson isn’t going to be in this class.
11-14-2019, 11:56 AM
Lance Harbor

Any updated info on Charles Moore from Auburn and the transfer possibility?

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

3 years ago this board would have been 100% full blown melt down if we offered Brownlee over Heath
Or if Heath would have ( and he should have ) been eligible out of high school and choose a Fla or OM over State ..full meltdown would have been the result.

Saying that no one knows who will be a better D1college player or have a better careerHeath or Brownlee
But I will roll the dice with Heath
Hell we may get them both in the end.. I don’t think we are going to take another juco WR but it’s known that Patterson isn’t going to be in this class.
11-14-2019, 12:15 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Lance Harbor

Any updated info on Charles Moore from Auburn and the transfer possibility?

He's already enrolled at Oregon St.
11-14-2019, 12:38 PM
Irondawg

what was the connection that got him all the way out there?
11-14-2019, 12:41 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

what was the connection that got him all the way out there?

No clue
11-14-2019, 12:44 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

No clue

Oregon state is leading the charge proving the earth truly is flat**

Hopefully the attraction is Corvallis is as far as he could get away from whoever it was that messed him up
11-14-2019, 01:12 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Oregon state is leading the charge proving the earth truly is flat**

Hopefully the attraction is Corvallis is as far as he could get away from whoever it was that messed him up

Kid has some issues. Hope he figures it out
11-15-2019, 04:29 AM
BhamDawg205

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Brownlee is a solid player but it's the system. They have a WR with big #'s every year. He's not a better WR than Drummond last year. He's a better athlete.

Hey was a solid secondary player at West Point... Could use the depth.
11-16-2019, 10:25 AM
ejdallas322

Top 5 player in the country and number 1 player in Mississippi for 2021 is visiting for game against Bama
11-16-2019, 10:34 AM
ejdallas322

Correction: Class of 2022
11-18-2019, 03:53 PM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

what was the connection that got him all the way out there?

Weed is legal
11-18-2019, 07:55 PM
Ari Gold

Look for another scholarship to come available rather soon..
Along with Patterson .
11-18-2019, 07:59 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Look for another scholarship to come available rather soon..
Along with Patterson .

Any hint? Is this a coach decision?
11-18-2019, 08:34 PM
msu15

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Look for another scholarship to come available rather soon..
Along with Patterson .

I saw where we just offered a 2020 high school kid from Louisiana. Any correlation?
11-18-2019, 08:55 PM
Cooterpoot

Hmm, only know of one I wouldn’t take but he’s not going anywhere. Must not be a good thing...
11-18-2019, 11:23 PM
Westdawg

Malik Heath.....
visiting Florida....
He gone 😳
11-19-2019, 04:27 AM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Westdawg

Malik Heath.....
visiting Florida....
He gone ��

Mullen has been working him, but this visit has been known for a while. It could be a transfer off the roster.
11-19-2019, 06:56 AM
msugolf

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Originally Posted by Westdawg

Malik Heath.....
visiting Florida....
He gone 😳

Would you blame him? It takes our WRs a year to learn the system and more is required of them than in other offenses. And then SloMo doesn't know how to get them the ball.
11-19-2019, 08:08 AM
Ari Gold

It’s a decision made or being talked about being made by the staff.

If Joe gets the axe at years end.. there is going to be some shake up for sure with some of these commits
Malik was planning on visiting Fla this whole time.
11-19-2019, 09:07 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by msugolf

Would you blame him? It takes our WRs a year to learn the system and more is required of them than in other offenses. And then SloMo doesn't know how to get them the ball.

Yeah, cause Mullen did so much with WRs here.
11-19-2019, 09:15 AM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Yeah, cause Mullen did so much with WRs here.

We all know how recruiting works around here, but there was a greater chance that MH would have committed to UF out of high school than it is now.
Unless coaching changes are made MH will be a dawg. If coaching changes are made then who knows..
11-19-2019, 09:17 AM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Yeah, cause Mullen did so much with WRs here.

Dude currently has the 3rd ranked passing offense in the SEC. Obviously he can get the ball to WR's. The fact that LSU and Bammer this year are the ones ahead of them is another thing too.
11-19-2019, 09:29 AM
msugolf

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Yeah, cause Mullen did so much with WRs here.

I didn't mention one thing about Mullen but since you brought it up, UF has 4 WRs ranked higher than our best in 2019 SEC receiving stats
11-19-2019, 09:52 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Dude currently has the 3rd ranked passing offense in the SEC. Obviously he can get the ball to WR's. The fact that LSU and Bammer this year are the ones ahead of them is another thing too.

And how many did he recruit and develop?
11-19-2019, 10:05 AM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

And how many did he recruit and develop?

Haha just jumping from one narrative to the next.

Who 17ing cares who he recruited? Dumb question. But since you asked his top two receivers on the roster right now were in his first recruiting class.

ETA: By your logic, Lincoln Riley's offense and team he has assembled get no credit for Jalen Hurts having a great year since he didn't recruit and develop him.
11-19-2019, 10:10 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Haha just jumping from one narrative to the next.

Who 17ing cares who he recruited? Dumb question. But since you asked his top two receivers on the roster right now were in his first recruiting class.

I look at what he did with the WRs and Juco recruits here. Heath isn’t an elite level WR. He’s solid but not elite. Dan Mullen would do nothing with him. So, is Heath going to beat out those WRs on the roster? Nope. See where I’m going? Heath will be our 1/2. He won’t be at FL. Let me guess, Dan would redshirt him.
11-19-2019, 10:47 AM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I look at what he did with the WRs and Juco recruits here. Heath isn’t an elite level WR. He’s solid but not elite. Dan Mullen would do nothing with him. So, is Heath going to beat out those WRs on the roster? Nope. See where I’m going? Heath will be our 1/2. He won’t be at FL. Let me guess, Dan would redshirt him.

Guidry2.0
11-19-2019, 05:03 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Dude currently has the 3rd ranked passing offense in the SEC. Obviously he can get the ball to WR's. The fact that LSU and Bammer this year are the ones ahead of them is another thing too.

Dude lost his QB read guy and his offense has changed. The QB playing right now that has them #3 was a backup to Franks, let that sink in. Mullen absolutely lucked into the season he's having.
11-19-2019, 05:28 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

And how many did he recruit and develop?

How many did recruit and develop in 2015 here when we were #2 in sec in passing offense?
11-19-2019, 07:18 PM
msbulldog

Another damn pissing battle that has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread!
11-19-2019, 07:55 PM
HailStateSZN19

When could this spot potentially be opened up? Some time in the pretty near future? I’m curious as to who this could be...
11-23-2019, 12:13 AM
Cooterpoot

We need to get Ty Keyes in the boat. Kid is something else.
11-23-2019, 07:44 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

We need to get Ty Keyes in the boat. Kid is something else.

Didn't see any of the game, but Taylorsville scored a ton on my home town philly tornadoes tonight, and that's a dang good philly team.

And how bout them rockets! Neshoba central moves on... unfortunately, West Point next
11-24-2019, 10:16 PM
ZedFedder

The #8 player and #1 CB in the 2022 class from Lexington, MS, committed to LSU. Khamauri Rogers.

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