He's coming in with a chip on his shoulder. He's going to prove people wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
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He's coming in with a chip on his shoulder. He's going to prove people wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Neither Harmon nor Hampton looked good in the All Star game today. Johnson was pretty good.
Who was evaluating that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I was at the game. Harmon was nowhere to be found. Hampton got burned badly and was lost at DB. Johnson looked the part.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
You might be able to watch it online. Not sure. If Hampton is indeed recruited as a DB, he's a couple years from touching the field. We need Johnson. He can play.
I was too for a half. The laurel kid can playQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I watched some online. Didn't see what happened to Hampton, but I agree he looks raw. Good athlete though. We'll see where he is in a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
They had Harmon on the outside, but never made an effort to get him the ball, and, if they did, the OL didn't hold up enough.
I'm betting he ends up a WR. I watched him in warm ups. He can go get it. I'd offer the safety for the South team Perkins. He was the best looking player on the field. Maybe he's a grades issue, but he was everywhere. Gives us an in with his brother who is some kind of good.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
We had to see something to try and lock Hampton down knowing that the portal will have tons of options and we still could easily land Perkins and Johnson.
Or his coach is a former player and he's a good WR/Ath. He can run and he can catch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
He's never really played CB much. That's why it's a huge reach for a CB spot. Even with Perkins, we still need someone to play. Portal needs to be good to us.
This is why I liked Toles better. DB is actually his main position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I'm just saying this honestly and I hope both guys become all-stars at MSU but from the outside looking in it appears that Harmon's recruiting cooled significantly during his SR year for whatever reason. He is rated a 4 star but it sure didn't seem like he had the recruiting interest of a normal 4 star down the stretch. As far as Hampton, that seems to be a bit of a reach of just taking a guy that is a good athlete and let's see if we can mold him into what we want given we struck out on guys much further in their development. Its been said he had an Indiana offer but if he really had another P5 committable offer do we think he would have waited around to see if he got a post-signing day offer from us? I mean we may have told him to wait and he did, I don't know, but it didn't really seem like he had any other high end options. But, we've signed a number of guys late with no other great options in the past that turned out to be good players for us so hopefully these guys will too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I assume you are talking about Kenarious Johnson? I'm surprised we didn't go after him before some others but given he hadn't signed, last I heard, there must be some academic issues with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Yeah, he's Juco bound. Don't be surprised if we sign him in two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Evans? He's a bowling ball. A little similar to The Bowling Ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
He didn't play in the game yesterday. He was in the MS/AL game. Evans, RB from Laurel had a good game. He's a little similar to Josh Robinson but a little less quickness.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Bridges from Magee is another player. I wish McLaurin, the RB from Mendenhall, hadn't been hurt. He's good.
Margo Perkins was the best player on the field. His brother is the top Soph. in the state.
The potential walk-on QB for North team (name escapes me) was good. A smaller school should grab him up.
I wouldn't worry too much about the brother connection. It seems to go against us about as often as it goes for us when it comes to recruiting. Still remember losing Jason Campbell to Auburn with Larry on the team, Josh McNeil to Tennessee with Chris on the team and now Justin Walley to Minnesota (still hard to believe) with Jaden on the team. Seems when the younger brother is the more highly recruited one it doesn't often work out in our favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Is CJ Johnson still in play? He didn't sign with Navy.
Yep he’s going to sign in Feb - we’ve still got an excellent shot but he’s basically looking at us, Navy and Northwestern.
So it’s SEC football vs academic powers
Gotcha, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
According to the LSU 247 board, Raydar Jones is transferring. Former 4 star DB from Horn Lake. He has 4 years of eligibility left.
Like I said, I think we panicked and prematurely signed Hampton. Nothing you can do now, but he's a guy you could've 100% offered and signed in Feb. had you missed on some guys, but with the new transfer rules, we should've at least explored options there first.
Btw, I still think we'll have room for Raydar if he chooses to come here, but there's just one less spot for someone that can help us be better imo.
Yeah. At some point we just have to trust the coaches & fire them if they're consistently wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Would love to get Radar. Great fit for us
According to Paul, he almost transferred here back in the spring. Gotta thing we have a good shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Nigel Knott is also in the portal. When are all these kids gonna learn?
Raydar, Knott, Handy, Hall, M. Jackson, possibly Brandon Turnage, are all potential transfers.
All while Ty Cooper is waiting on an LSU offer. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
The grass is always greener on the other side. Until you realize that the grass that you're going to be standing on is on the sidelines.
Too much fertilizer will burn up that greener grassQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
I really don't see Brandon Turnage transferring.
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I don't see him transferring to us. Unless he starts seeing more playing time next year though, he'll get recruited over if he hasn't already.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
I wouldn't be shocked at all if Walley, Calloway, and Deion Smith all end up transferring back in a year or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Me either. That's why we need to save a few scholarships every year and not use them on marginal players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Also until you realize all these places are virtually the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
You live in the same apartment, go to the same classes everyday, go to a similar facility as every other SEC school, & play the same schedule. Then you realize these God like coaches are just simple flawed humans that are salesmen. The entire charade loses it's shine pretty fast.
I agree with this. We just don't know the internal evaluation of Hampton. We should not sign more than 20 HS kids per year going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
I think we signed Hampton more as an athlete than anything else. We listed him at DB because that's where our need is at the present moment in the class. However, if we land some targets and or we just see that he is more use at WR we just go ahead and get a transfer or JUCO at that time and let him play WR for us. Win/win for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
How many times did a guy like Hampton end up at Arkansas State, blow up and then we wonder why we missed him?
We should be thankful for the portal. In the past a guy like Jimmy Johns would have had to rot on the bench at Alabama or go the JUCO route and be recruited again- or go to the SWAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
He still should've been a wait til Feb. guy. Too many available players out there. We're waiting on Johnson and Cooper til Feb. Hampton was a huge reach & then you combine it with the fact took Harmon, it's head scratching really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
A lot of how I judge the staffs recruiting eye will be if either one of those guys develops into anything. Mostly because we chose to sign them in the early period when we knew there was about to be a flurry of coaching changes and portal entries.
No choice but to trust them at this point though
Maybe so. But with the Covid rule for the 2021 roster it’s not that big a deal.. just going to have to get back to the 85 scholarship players in 2022.. Kids will transfer out after next season , I’m sure a few more will after spring ball that aren’t cracking the 2 deep. ( we will have a handful of upperclassmen we actually need to transfer) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Numbers will work out in the end.. they always do
What is the COVID rule for 2021? Eligibility did not count this year, but are teams still limited to 85 in 2021? Are teams still limited to 25 incoming this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
We signed him bc Mcbath panicked. It was his call. So he was signed to play cb...........I understand that can change, but .........Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The big deal is that lack of depth in the defensive backfield and filling immediate needs. We've got one safety that can play pass coverage and only two CBs that are good. Perkins is a must. MJ would've seen action. Hampton will not. Johnson isn't likely a year one guy. We took a WR that's not going to be much help in the future & doesn't fit the offense very well. I'm hearing Hampton will be an insurance policy there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Gotta grab a transfer safety and reel in Perkins. Do that, and I agree it works out.