2016 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

Here is my count of scholarship guys departing from last year's roster:
1) Will Redmond
2) Zach Jackson
3) Dak Prescott
4) Joe Morrow
5) Taveze Calhoun
6) Kendrick Market
7) Devon Bell
8) Ryan Brown
9) Justin Malone (counting him, but he may come back)
10) Rufus Warren
11) Damien Robinson
12) Darion Hutcherson
13) Keith Joseph (RIP)
14) Derunnya Wilson
15) Beniquez Brown
16) Chris Jones

The last time I counted was a few weeks ago before Beni declared, and I also forgot about Joseph so thats how I ended up at 14. But still, that's only 16 guys (possibly 15 if Malone comes back) leaving and we have 15 commitments. So if you are right about the 64 returnees, that means we did some self-imposed 5 scholarship probation and only dressed 80 scholarship players last year. If there's someone or something that I'm missing, please let me know.

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I'm not doing all the research necessary but I know we have 5 commits already enrolled and some of them will count back to last year. I am sure there is "other attrition" that we will learn about beforeor after the spring.

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Originally Posted by Dawgtini

I'm not doing all the research necessary but I know we have 5 commits already enrolled and some of them will count back to last year. I am sure there is "other attrition" that we will learn about beforeor after the spring.

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The issue is the 85 limit, so counting back does not matter.

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Originally Posted by 1bigdawg

The issue is the 85 limit, so counting back does not matter.

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Then I guess the coaches know as little about this as I do. You should approach them about giving them a hand.

4 (2 om guys, 1 notre dame guy, and an fsu guy) CBs in the last 6 hours for knott to om. What's going on here?

Go look at their past CBs. They CB 5-6 a day based off the current trend.
http://247sports.com/User/Chris%20Ne...Sport=Football
http://247sports.com/User/Tom%20Loy/...Sport=Football

CB is good in theory but terrible in execution. Kinda like Croom's west coach offense.

At this point this recruiting season can't get over fast enough

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

At this point this recruiting season can't get over fast enough

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I'm just ready for signing day to get here so some of these folks will have a REAL reason to gripe OR we will be fairly satisfied with the result. I'm just sick of all these folks going off the deep end when NONE of our big targets have even committed to another school.

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

I don't think I saw BJ Hammond, Shelby Christy, Kent Flowers, Jahmere Irvin-Sills, Brandon Wells, Dez Harris(quite possibly for injuries), Dee Arrington, Gus Walley(quite possibly for injuries), nor Quadry Antoine on your list either.

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Originally Posted by engie

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

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I was told there would be no math.

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Originally Posted by engie

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

I don't think I saw BJ Hammond, Shelby Christy, Kent Flowers, Jahmere Irvin-Sills, Brandon Wells, Dez Harris(quite possibly for injuries), Dee Arrington, Gus Walley(quite possibly for injuries), nor Quadry Antoine on your list either.

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Dee was before this year. But also add Jake Thomas and Cole Carter.

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Originally Posted by Big4Dawg

Go look at their past CBs. They CB 5-6 a day based off the current trend.
http://247sports.com/User/Chris%20Ne...Sport=Football
http://247sports.com/User/Tom%20Loy/...Sport=Football

CB is good in theory but terrible in execution. Kinda like Croom's west coach offense.

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We are getting our butts handed to us in every conceivable way. Hell, USM got a 3 day visit from Simmons and they don't even have a coach. What did we get. Just freaking pitiful man. It's looking like this class might not be just the biggest bust of Mullen's career but the biggest bust in recent memory.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

We are getting our butts handed to us in every conceivable way. Hell, USM got a 3 day visit from Simmons and they don't even have a coach. What did we get. Just freaking pitiful man. It's looking like this class might not be just the biggest bust of Mullen's career but the biggest bust in recent memory.

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When did this 3 day visit to USM occur?

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

When did this 3 day visit to USM occur?

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Been there today and won't be coming back till late Friday night. Unless I'm being lied to by a guy up there but he has no reason to lie. They know they don't have a chance (or a coach) and he's just down to see his brother. But still got a long visit.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Been there today and won't be coming back till late Friday night. Unless I'm being lied to by a guy up there but he has no reason to lie. They know they don't have a chance (or a coach) and he's just down to see his brother. But still got a long visit.

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Must have left after school because Saban was there today to see him. A girl from Macon in my office got a picture texted to her of Simmons, Saban and somebody else at the school.

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Originally Posted by engie

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

I don't think I saw BJ Hammond, Shelby Christy, Kent Flowers, Jahmere Irvin-Sills, Brandon Wells, Dez Harris(quite possibly for injuries), Dee Arrington, Gus Walley(quite possibly for injuries), nor Quadry Antoine on your list either.

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So in other words, we were under "self-imposed" probation because of too much attrition, like I said in my original post. We basically dressed 80 scholarship players last year and that includes redshirts. Missing on all those guys you mentioned is way more discouraging than any of the doomsday scenarios I've read about next Wednesday. Some of that is beyond our control (like with Joseph and Jake Thomas), but the point remains.

It was around 4 that he told me so probably so.

Seems like there would be a rule against these mid-week OV's. These kids are still students

He better get back soon because Paul said Mullen and Turner have an in-home with him tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Raekwon just doesn't know how to tell people no. On signing day his name will be on a MSU LOI.

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Looks spot on IMO.

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

So in other words, we were under "self-imposed" probation because of too much attrition, like I said in my original post. We basically dressed 80 scholarship players last year and that includes redshirts. Missing on all those guys you mentioned is way more discouraging than any of the doomsday scenarios I've read about next Wednesday. Some of that is beyond our control (like with Joseph and Jake Thomas), but the point remains.

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Wanna know how I can tell you are brand new to this?