OC Hot Board Version 3-Let's Try This Again

Alright I think I have the list updated with all the candidates that have been mentioned. I'll add more as they come along. I don't know how realistic some of the ones recently mentioned are. I probably shouldn't have added Korn, but Liberty is small enough we could pull him from. Harrell isn't added because I doubt we could pull him from Purdue. Same with Arbuckle at Washington St. Just because we can afford to do it doesn't mean we need to get in a bidding war over some of these guys.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I'd rather us take a chance on a guy like him than some of the other names mentioned. Young, hungry, and the potential to be good beats old, mediocre, and you know what their ceiling is.

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Agreed. Give some young and energetic up and comer with some fire. The offensive equivalent of Zach. Korn has had some great offenses at Coastal too.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah they kinda mirror ndsu. Head coach been there 24 years and it's always them and ndsu

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Yep. Both are fantastic to watch though.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

It's wild how we went from being able to "big game hunt" to having to settle for scraps because "nobody wants to work for a 1st year HC" in a day or two.

Our fan base is the kings of getting fired up about one guy and creating a narrative around him, only to find out in the end that we're still poor and undesirable. It's fascinating really.

So basically it was Briles or Dog Shit? King Kong or ding dong? How is that possible? And if the next guy behind Briles on our list was scraps, how were our leaders so gullible as to think we actually had a shot at Kendal? When you're talking to a 10, and the next one on your wish list is a 3....the 10 is playing you, 100% of the time.

We have to be the dumbest, most gullible program in the country.

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I didn't know a couple on this list were still alive and never heard of the rest and I saw my first State game in 1963 at age 8. Are we now in a panic mode or don't know how do build an SEC staff on offense!

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Agreed. Give some young and energetic up and comer with some fire. The offensive equivalent of Zach. Korn has had some great offenses at Coastal too.

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If that?s the case, we should?ve looked at Drew or Miller.

Also- is Brian Johnson in the same boat as Kliff as far as not wanting to recruit? The games he called for Mullen here were pretty good. Good QB developer, which is really what we need.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Agreed. Give some young and energetic up and comer with some fire. The offensive equivalent of Zach. Korn has had some great offenses at Coastal too.

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I like Korn a lot but I want him calling plays first at Liberty. Chadwell calls the plays and is heavily involved in game planning.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yep. Both are fantastic to watch though.

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I watch just about every ndsu game and have for years. I watch a lot of fcs because it's fun to watch. Kids playing for love of the game and most are well coached and disciplined

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

I didn't know a couple on this list were still alive and never heard of the rest and I saw my first State game in 1963 at age 8. Are we now in a panic mode or don't know how do build an SEC staff on offense!

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It's kinda like the list they were going over at the beginning of the first Major League movie lol

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

If that?s the case, we should?ve looked at Drew or Miller.

Also- is Brian Johnson in the same boat as Kliff as far as not wanting to recruit? The games he called for Mullen here were pretty good. Good QB developer, which is really what we need.

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You and I have talked about Brian many times before. The issue I have with him is would he be ok with us announcing him as the new OC, but letting him continue to coach the Eagles. I don't know that we could wait another month to make the hire. But I will add him to the list. I know he will adapt his play calling. Hell look at the transformation of calls from Franks to Trask.

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

If that?s the case, we should?ve looked at Drew or Miller.

Also- is Brian Johnson in the same boat as Kliff as far as not wanting to recruit? The games he called for Mullen here were pretty good. Good QB developer, which is really what we need.

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I was wondering about Brian Johnson myself

SVS-just for S&Gs?what?s Mark Hudspeth and/or Angelo Mirando up to now? Hudspeth,Bump, BP..getting the band back together

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd rather let fans send in plays live during the game than hire Mike Bobo. Just pass around the Madden controller through the stands

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Could be interesting.

Might as well add Charlie Weiss to the senior tour group of coaches lol

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

SVS-just for S&Gs?what?s Mark Hudspeth and/or Angelo Mirando up to now? Hudspeth,Bump, BP..getting the band back together

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Angelo Mirando and Bracky being on the same campus is probably not good for all involved.

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

If that?s the case, we should?ve looked at Drew or Miller.

Also- is Brian Johnson in the same boat as Kliff as far as not wanting to recruit? The games he called for Mullen here were pretty good. Good QB developer, which is really what we need.

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I think Drew is going to kill it wherever he ends up- Western Kentucky?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think Drew is going to kill it wherever he ends up- Western Kentucky?

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That seems to be a prevailing thought. I'd also watch for that to be a possible landing spot for Robertson or Locke.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

That seems to be a prevailing thought. I'd also watch for that to be a possible landing spot for Robertson or Locke.

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Just saw a tweet linking SR to TCU.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Who are the best FCS offenses? Kansas State hit a freaking home run with Kleiman, maybe we could do the same with a top notch OC from those ranks.

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Samford

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

What does SDSU run?

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They never throw it

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Just saw a tweet linking SR to TCU.

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Good for the young man. Disappointed he didn?t get more game reps, etc. Was looking forward to watching he, Locke, and Parson battling it out in the future. Would?ve been good to see.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Samford

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They have been pretty good offensively

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Just saw a tweet linking SR to TCU.

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Good luck with that one.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Samford

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Actually Samford is behind a bunch of teams in total offense. They are 6th in passing offense. Fordham, UIW, EKU, Bryant, and Cal Poly are all in front of them. Samford threw for a shade over 300 yds a game and rushed for around 120 yds a game.

However as Bank noted earlier, the worry with Hatcher is that when he played superior competition his teams struggle to run the ball.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Just saw a tweet linking SR to TCU.

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And all we needed to do show the qbs we were going to keep in the Air Raid vein.

Instead...

Our HC is.in over his head

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Actually Samford is behind a bunch of teams in total offense. They are 6th in passing offense. Fordham, UIW, EKU, Bryant, and Cal Poly are all in front of them. Samford threw for a shade over 300 yds a game and rushed for around 120 yds a game.

However as Bank noted earlier, the worry with Hatcher is that when he played superior competition his teams struggle to run the ball.

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That happens to just about every single team when they play a superior team. We did really well running the ball vs Bama and LSU under Don

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Actually Samford is behind a bunch of teams in total offense. They are 6th in passing offense. Fordham, UIW, EKU, Bryant, and Cal Poly are all in front of them. Samford threw for a shade over 300 yds a game and rushed for around 120 yds a game.

However as Bank noted earlier, the worry with Hatcher is that when he played superior competition his teams struggle to run the ball.

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The game against NDSU had to be a talent issue. NDSU recruits pretty well. Didn?t the UIW HC just get hired somewhere out west? That offense was fun to watch.

Buck-what would you think about Sam getting into the college game at some point? Y?all have had some tough breaks the last two years in the state championship.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

They have been pretty good offensively

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Always are. Hatcher would be fine. It wouldnt be Kiffin or Briles so some on here would bitch till we score

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

The game against NDSU had to be a talent issue. NDSU recruits pretty well. Didn?t the UIW HC just get hired somewhere out west? That offense was fun to watch.

Buck-what would you think about Sam getting into the college game at some point? Y?all have had some tough breaks the last two years in the state championship.

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Leave Sam alone

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

The game against NDSU had to be a talent issue. NDSU recruits pretty well. Didn?t the UIW HC just get hired somewhere out west? That offense was fun to watch.

Buck-what would you think about Sam getting into the college game at some point? Y?all have had some tough breaks the last two years in the state championship.

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Ndsu beats an fbs team just about every year. Heck they had an 8 year fbs win streak broken this year. They're the bama of fcs accept even more dominant than bama lol.

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

The game against NDSU had to be a talent issue. NDSU recruits pretty well. Didn?t the UIW HC just get hired somewhere out west? That offense was fun to watch.

Buck-what would you think about Sam getting into the college game at some point? Y?all have had some tough breaks the last two years in the state championship.

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UIW HC is now at Texas St. It was GJ Kinne who played for Todd Graham at Tulsa. Speaking of Todd Graham, what the hell is even doing now?

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Always are. Hatcher would be fine. It wouldnt be Kiffin or Briles so some on here would bitch till we score

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My cousin is his DC and he speaks highly of Chris. In fact my cousin has been with him through several of his stops. They're pretty tight

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Originally Posted by Maverick91

Yall remember when we all flipped out over ******* 2.5 4 year deal in 2010? We are waiving 2 mill for an assistant likes it?s candy now.

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To who??

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

UIW HC is now at Texas St. It was GJ Kinne who played for Todd Graham at Tulsa. Speaking of Todd Graham, what the hell is even doing now?

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Nothing, fired from Hawaii in 2021

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

And all we needed to do show the qbs we were going to keep in the Air Raid vein.

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Our HC is.in over his head

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For the love of the world just zip it til we make a hire and even better play a game. You're becoming insufferable.
Eta who really cares if Robertson left? He can't play dead. Locke who knows. You damn sure don't.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

To who??

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Mullen in 2010. It was a little more than that though

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

For the love of the world just zip it til we make a hire and even better play a game. You're becoming insufferable.

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Yes!!!!

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Ndsu beats an fbs team just about every year. Heck they had an 8 year fbs win streak broken this year. They're the bama of fcs accept even more dominant than bama lol.

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No doubt about it. I forgot that win streak. Lot of guys at that level are true football players and not just great athletes.

When I was on Senior Bowl committee we always had guys from those smaller schools there. Watching Josh Allen and Baker dual it out after practice in a passing competition was fun to watch. I also took joy watching the Saints draft selection this past year, Penning, get after it at the practices. He had some guys ticked off that they were getting showed up by a FCS guy

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Always are. Hatcher would be fine. It wouldnt be Kiffin or Briles so some on here would bitch till we score

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And maybe he would. But "just fine" is not going to light the recruiting trail on fire. Briles and Kiffin carry 100 times the name recognition of a guy who hasn't coached at the FBS level this century. Again, I'm not saying Hatcher would be a bad hire because we don't know. But there will be no hype surrounding that hire. In his defense though, outside of some OOLF hire of a Kingsbury, Riley, or Kittley type there won't be much hype surrounding the hire. We swung big and missed.

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Originally Posted by vindastra

Mullen to OC

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Incoming Freshman Davis is big enough to run "Holloway Up the Middle", but we know Will too slow to run QB draw on 3rd and 12. Would never work!*** Hail State!

I see Thomas is still trolling around here. He's been banned from every site but keeps reincarnating.