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11-22-2022, 10:44 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Mike Gundy

That better not be true. He's easily a top 5 coach in America, given what he's done with a relative lack of resources compared to the elites.
11-22-2022, 10:45 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That better not be true. He's easily a top 5 coach in America, given what he's done with a relative lack of resources compared to the elites.

His glory days are over
11-22-2022, 10:45 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Temple and Baylor both got worse under Rhule before they got better. Temple wasn't in shambles at all. Baylor was already over the worst of it and went 7-6 in the interim year after Briles under Jim Grobe. They weren't losing to FCS teams until Rhule got there.

I think Rhule is an above average coach, but he's way too glorified all on the basis of a single good year out of 10.

That's not true at all. Concerning Baylor. Art was fired before the season of 2016, the AD left, players left after the season and Stidham opted out and all but 1 player dropped their commitment during the 2016 season. He took over right after it imploded. That was textbook shambles.

Temple wasn't in shambles but Addozio left it in the middle of a down turn he was responsible for. Again, He was 4-7 the year he left for BC.
11-22-2022, 10:51 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by Coach34

shut up stupid. Miss State hasnt been in shambles since before Tyler in the 70's

Hey stupid fat ****. You spent two years telling us how in shambles the program was under Moorhead. Now go eat shit and kick rocks.
11-22-2022, 10:58 PM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by BayouDawg

I dunno. The Kangs last 3 years and the croom error were pretty rough.

Not like 67-73/ But we did upset the rebs in 1970/
11-22-2022, 11:02 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That better not be true. He's easily a top 5 coach in America, given what he's done with a relative lack of resources compared to the elites.

Not true. You, again, don't know what you are talking about.
11-22-2022, 11:10 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Not true. You, again, don't know what you are talking about.

There aren't many coaches who could do this at Oklahoma State, not many at all:

https://i.imgur.com/ukEGloI.png
11-22-2022, 11:13 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

His glory days are over

He finished #7 last year, so maybe not?
11-22-2022, 11:31 PM
BayouDawg

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Not like 67-73/ But we did upset the rebs in 1970/

That was before my time. That must have been hell.
11-23-2022, 01:03 AM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by BayouDawg

That was before my time. That must have been hell.

Basedog was a student back then.
11-23-2022, 05:06 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

He finished #7 last year, so maybe not?

Wow. I missed that. Another example of how wrong I am when I think I know what I'm talking about.
11-23-2022, 07:02 AM
Saltydog

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That better not be true. He's easily a top 5 coach in America, given what he's done with a relative lack of resources compared to the elites.

Good coach but he is 3-15 in the bedlam rivalry. OU dominated his ass. That's still better than Leach in the apple cup and Egg bowl.
11-23-2022, 07:38 AM
duncflydawg

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Good coach but he is 3-15 in the bedlam rivalry. OU dominated his ass. That's still better than Leach in the apple cup and Egg bowl.

True, but the recruiting talent gap between those two teams is pretty significant. Ole Miss is going to go get someone who is known to be a recruiter, because winning on signing day always seems to be their number one goal.
11-23-2022, 08:09 AM
AROB44

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Basedog was a student back then.

Well, I was a student in 1964 and saw us beat OM for the first time in 17 years! Basedog has nothing on me!
11-23-2022, 08:55 AM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That better not be true. He's easily a top 5 coach in America, given what he's done with a relative lack of resources compared to the elites.

Mike Gundy has a lack of resources at Oklahoma State?

You might want to dig into that a little bit.
11-23-2022, 09:22 AM
State82

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Mike Gundy has a lack of resources at Oklahoma State?

You might want to dig into that a little bit.

Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one too. When you had one of the world's wealthiest individuals all in on your athletic program resources are not a problem.
11-23-2022, 09:58 AM
TrapGame

Back on topic.

Per Not A Fan: Lane met with the team yesterday and told them he has not accepted another job offer BUT if things change he will tell them first.

And the extension is still on his desk unsigned.
11-23-2022, 10:18 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by duncflydawg

True, but the recruiting talent gap between those two teams is pretty significant. Ole Miss is going to go get someone who is known to be a recruiter, because winning on signing day always seems to be their number one goal.

Mike Gundy also has a ranch outside Stillwater and spends his summers baking hay so there is no way he would fit in at OM
11-23-2022, 10:22 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Back on topic.

Per Not A Fan: Lane met with the team yesterday and told them he has not accepted another job offer BUT if things change he will tell them first.

And the extension is still on his desk unsigned.

Yep, but Kiffin didn't tell them he was not interested in another school and that he hadn't already met with another school concerning a potential contract either. Not A Fan probably got his info from Chris Low with ESPN , who was on the plane with Kiffin when he first arrived at OM as their new HC.
11-23-2022, 10:37 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

Yep, but Kiffin didn't tell them he was not interested in another school and that he hadn't already met with another school concerning a potential contract either. Not A Fan probably got his info from Chris Low with ESPN , who was on the plane with Kiffin when he first arrived at OM as their new HC.

Yeah, Kiffin didn't quell anything. He never said I'm staying. That's what they wanted to hear.

Also, FWIW, rumors are Egg practice for them has been really lackluster. The coaches seem preoccupied about something.
11-23-2022, 10:38 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by State82

Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one too. When you had one of the world's wealthiest individuals all in on your athletic program resources are not a problem.

Regardless of one rich benefactor, a quick Google shows multiple lists that have Oklahoma State well outside the top ~20 in athletic budgets.
11-23-2022, 10:45 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Regardless of one rich benefactor, a quick Google shows multiple lists that have Oklahoma State well outside the top ~20 in athletic budgets.

They are usually 25-30th nationally. But that puts them pretty consistently 4th in the Big 12. So in relation to their conference revenue and expenses, they are solidly upper tier.
11-23-2022, 10:49 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

They are usually 25-30th nationally. But that puts them pretty consistently 4th in the Big 12. So in relation to their conference revenue and expenses, they are solidly upper tier.

You can nitpick on whether "4th in a 10 team conference" is "upper tier" or not all you want, but what Gundy has done with the 25-30th nationally program is amazing.
11-23-2022, 10:55 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

You can nitpick on whether "4th in a 10 team conference" is "upper tier" or not all you want, but what Gundy has done with the 25-30th nationally program is amazing.

That's not nitpicking. That's a factual ranking. I wasn't downplaying his job but they are not punching well above their weight class. He has had them at their ceiling multiple times, great job. It's been a great fit. But their financial resources match their league standings as well.
11-23-2022, 11:01 AM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Regardless of one rich benefactor, a quick Google shows multiple lists that have Oklahoma State well outside the top ~20 in athletic budgets.

Their athletic budget is in line with others in their conference. And athletic budget doesn't tell the whole story. They have some of the best facilities in the country.
11-23-2022, 11:09 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Yeah, Kiffin didn't quell anything. He never said I'm staying. That's what they wanted to hear.

Also, FWIW, rumors are Egg practice for them has been really lackluster. The coaches seem preoccupied about something.

Sounds good. It appears that if OM is going to try to outbid Auburn then Kiffin will be the highest paid coach in college football. Sexton and Kiffin control the full deck of cards in this game.
11-23-2022, 11:23 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

Sounds good. It appears that if OM is going to try to outbid Auburn then Kiffin will be the highest paid coach in college football. Sexton and Kiffin control the full deck of cards in this game.

Per Not A fan, Kiffin interviewed via Zoom yesterday and knocked it out of the park. He is expecting Auburn to officially offer today.

So there's a chance, just a chance, that Kiffin says eff it and bails to AU before coaching the Egg. If he Tennessee's OM I'm gonna laugh my ass off.
11-23-2022, 11:27 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Per Not A fan, Kiffin interviewed via Zoom yesterday and knocked it out of the park. He is expecting Auburn to officially offer today.

So there's a chance, just a chance, that Kiffin says eff it and bails to AU before coaching the Egg. If he Tennessee's OM I'm gonna laugh my ass off.

No chance he doesn't finish the regular season with UM.
11-23-2022, 11:28 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Per Not A fan, Kiffin interviewed via Zoom yesterday and knocked it out of the park. He is expecting Auburn to officially offer today.

So there's a chance, just a chance, that Kiffin says eff it and bails to AU before coaching the Egg. If he Tennessee's OM I'm gonna laugh my ass off.

I think Not A Fan may be behind the times. Kiffin supposedly interviewed last week and Chuck Rounsaville reported last night that he was offered the job yesterday afternoon.
11-23-2022, 11:30 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I think Not A Fan may be behind the times. Kiffin supposedly interviewed last week and Chuck Rounsaville reported last night that he was offered the job yesterday afternoon.

Interesting.

I'd say either way, he gone.
11-23-2022, 11:31 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

That's not nitpicking. That's a factual ranking. I wasn't downplaying his job but they are not punching well above their weight class. He has had them at their ceiling multiple times, great job. It's been a great fit. But their financial resources match their league standings as well.

Personally, I think a team outside the top 25 in budget finishing inside the top 25 in 10 of the last 14 years is "punching well above their weight class," especially when 9 of those are top 20 and and 5 are top 15.
11-23-2022, 11:37 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Interesting.

I'd say either way, he gone.

Rumors were 6 year at $75 or 77 Million, but like I said it is only rumors. Some OM people are upset with Kiffin because he is playing this like it's a game or a joke with the trolling on the internet and stuff.
11-23-2022, 11:38 AM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

Rumors were 6 year at $75 or 77 Million, but like I said it is only rumors. Some OM people are upset with Kiffin because he is playing this like it's a game with the trolling on the internet and stuff.

It is a game to him because lane is a big ol narcissist and doesn't give a crap about anyone else. He does love him some lane though, lol
11-23-2022, 11:43 AM
PGHBulldogBG

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

With the money that Ole Miss is throwing out there, lots of coaches are going to entertain ole miss to get a raise where they currently are.

I can see Jamey Chadwell ending up at Ole Miss

But you can believe that the big names will be out there because of the ole miss media

Expect multiple power 5 head coaching names that some of these idiots spew out there

One said earlier today that they could pull mike norvell away from Florida state

But Honestly ill throw a wild card out there for ole miss

Mike Gundy

I have heard that he wants out of oklahoma state

Chadwell at Ole Miss would be even worse for us than Kiffin. I hope their AD stays out of Conway SC and Winston Salem. Chadwell is an elite coach that has sustained success at a program he solely built from the ground up. I want him in Starkville not Oxford. That would be a nightmare if Ole Miss hires him.
11-23-2022, 11:43 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Personally, I think a team outside the top 25 in budget finishing inside the top 25 in 10 of the last 14 years is "punching well above their weight class," especially when 9 of those are top 20 and and 5 are top 15.

I mean it's kind of relative though. He's had some really good teams, but the weakness of the conference has helped in the national rankings too. Put him with those teams in the SEC they are not winning that many games. But against his peers, his is doing good and keeping them closer to their ceiling. Their budget is reflective of that. They are an upper tier Big 12 team financially and his is matching that record wise.
11-23-2022, 11:46 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

It is a game to him because lane is a big ol narcissist and doesn't give a crap about anyone else. He does love him some lane though, lol

Yep, I agree CC. Some of the OM media think some of his comments made in the press conference were a slap in the face to the OM football program. Like the pine box, Saban comment and about water dripping on the floor where they had to temporarily hold the press conference,
11-23-2022, 04:04 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Incredibly true post.

Yep gotta hope they don?t make a good hire. If they got Lane quality coach that would really suck. At least until pods get here and we don?t have to play everyone in the west each year
11-23-2022, 04:10 PM
TrapGame

Richard Cross tweeted out that ole miss has done everything to retain Lane Kiffin but it looks like he has chosen Auburn.
11-23-2022, 04:29 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

Chadwell at Ole Miss would be even worse for us than Kiffin. I hope their AD stays out of Conway SC and Winston Salem. Chadwell is an elite coach that has sustained success at a program he solely built from the ground up. I want him in Starkville not Oxford. That would be a nightmare if Ole Miss hires him.

Main name floating around is Luke Fickell.
11-23-2022, 04:31 PM
Leroy Jenkins

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Richard Cross tweeted out that ole miss has done everything to retain Lane Kiffin but it looks like he has chosen Auburn.

I didn't think Cross was man enough to concede that.

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