Ok genius, next time we make all essential workers stay at home too. That would work out well don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
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Ok genius, next time we make all essential workers stay at home too. That would work out well don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Why wouldn't it? Guarantee you those mopping the floor know the virus isn't transmitted through surfaces, yet the majority of scholars on this board and elsewhere keep buying disinfecting wipes like they're going out of style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
They may not be a clinician, but I guarantee you they're a healthcare worker!
How bout none of the above?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
This is an honest question?.does the vaccine prevent or lessen the chance of spread of the Delta variant? Or is transmission the same but the vaccine just prevents sickness to the extreme of the individual?
And to add to your post. 48 hours after the first case was announced in the US of A Moderna had a vaccine for Covid 19Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
That's absolutely outrageous. SMH. That's the kind of crap that makes people distrust the vaccine or any efforts thereof. Nothing to see here.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Who is that? A wannabe pundit that is so unemployable to he just posts on Substack and hopes someone takes him seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Haven't you noticed how every single COVID conspiracy that floats around on social media turns out to be fake, and yet people just move on to the next one and get taken in again and again?
AmenQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Brother!
https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqsQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Click on "Are adverse reactions to the..."
...
Is this not OSHA's site?
And this is "outrageous" / unprecedented / unusual?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sounds like some Twitter grifter is just riling people up who want to be riled up.
It's a Conspiracy!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Trust the Science!!!!
What EO? He hasn't issued any EO that I am aware, only laid out his plans for what he intends the OSHA ETS to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Regardless, my personal belief is that any such ETS (emergency temporary standard for those who don't know) will be enjoined.
I hear ya. Let's start by penalizing all obese people and jacking up their insurance rates, as more tax money is spent on them yearly than other medical condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
If your wife is fat, you pay more for insurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Does the vaccine lessen your chance of passing it? Or does it just lessen the severity of it if you get symptoms? Honest question
Yes, there has, several as a matter of fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I think the latter for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
The first one it depends on who you ask
Cite one. Just one where a President issued a vaccine mandate to private citizens via executive fiat or through an executive agency and it was upheld.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Fortunately mine is a bombshell (not so humble brag), but some of y'all are going to be slapped when you tell her why the insurance went up 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It lessens your chance of passing it because you are less likely to get it. The figures vary on that but the least I have seen is you are 6 1/2 times less likely to get if you have been vaccinated with any of our three. I saw an article where they had that broken down by type. Moderna was the best, followed by Pfizer, and then the J&J. It also lessens your symptoms so that helps too. It's even better at keeping you out of the hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
and the morgue. If we could get universal uptake this would revert to something resembling a bad seasonal flu overall. We function normally during that.
We already do that. For smoking, drinking, and age also among other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
How do we trust them while they fly and resettle illegal aliens by the thousands all over our country monthly with no tests or vac shots? Splain dat shit.
Agree with you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
If your wife is fat, aren't you already paying?**Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
just wait until everyone's company starts hitting them with extra no-vaxx surcharges on their health insurance plans. principles can get expensive.
That is what they want. who is "they" anyone in power that wants more power. Anything that they can do to make all of us at odds with one another is good for them, create the problem wait awhile for most people to be so mad at their neighbor and then come out with the solution I.E. more regulation or more government either or equals more power for them and less power for you in your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Things like this we have to be on the same page about, at the end of the day we live in a country that was created for really one goal and that was self governance. Anytime the government steps in and tells us what we can and cannot do is a overreach of our constitution. Call me crazy, I don't care, this will not end well for any of us if we keep fighting about it. The moment we stop arguing about this and understand that a high level of personal freedom comes with a high level of potential of getting hurt by someone that isn't masked or what not and accept it. The better off we will be, because then we can really pay attention to what the evil in this world is trying to do to us as individuals.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
oh good grief, why am I not surprised considering the poster.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Find the answer, please let me know. I bet it doesn't doesn't do a thing about lessoning, if it did you bet the media would be pounding that into the sand as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
So you are cool with employers not reporting side effects? Are side effects part of a right winged conspiracy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
and give them a stipend via your tax dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Holy shit. You'd think being wrong so often would cause you to at least google before you go wading off into something you clearly know nothing about. But I will give you the "often wrong, never in doubt" approach is very on brand for you. And in your defense, why shouldn't a career as a nurse practitioner teach you all you need to know about the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
You realize there is already a federal vaccine side effects depository (not to mention the media, which salivates over such stories)? Do we need a second Department of Labor one, or can we unburden business by cutting that red tape? That grifter Tweeter is leaving out a lot in order to rile you up like you want to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
That is another reason people distrust our govt on this issue. I'm not sure why we don't mandate vaccines for everyone at the borderQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Not for obesity that I'm aware. Which costs more than the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I've tried. He won't listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Burden businesses by requiring vaccine mandates and for the businesses to document it and to ensure it, but don't burden them by making them report side effects. Got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
It is encouraged, but a mandate is a no-win scenario for the federal government. You'd have the "personal freedom" crowd spitting venom if it were required, as well as the "America First" crowd angry if we were giving American vaccines to foreigners.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Obviously I would still support such a rule, but I recognize that I'm not the one taking heat for the decisions.
One other question. We do know a vaccine mandate (with exceptions) passed by a state legislature has stood up in court (Jacobson v Massachusetts), so why has no state legislature passed a law requiring the covid vaccine?