Maybe 1% of MDs if that? But you won't listen to the other 99%? Stop trying to justifying your decision and just say you don't want to be told what to doQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
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Maybe 1% of MDs if that? But you won't listen to the other 99%? Stop trying to justifying your decision and just say you don't want to be told what to doQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Don't have to justify it right now ... it's my decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
Not sure why all you vaxxed people are up in arms tho. According to all of your sources
a) if you get it your symptoms will be mild at worst
b) you can't die from it.
So that means all of us unvaxxed probably will kill each other off and then y'all will be happy. Or we'll be put in the CDC isolation camps (described on CDC's own website .. or was a couple of days ago) ... and then y'all can rejoice. Either way ... it ends very good for you. Once we're gone, everyone is vaxxed then.
Personally, I don't see a downside for any of you.
Sheer ignorance. You probably think it's just COVID patients waiting on ICU beds right now. Here is a news flash....don't have a wreck or a heart attack right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Dude, I've literally seen the data in multiple reputable places many times, WITHOUT TRYING TO FIND IT. I would think you would have to be willfully not looking at COVID stuff not to have seen it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Mississippi has asked if a Navy hospital ship might be available. From a health department pressor today.
Truthfully, im fine with you and other unvaccinated people making their own bed and taking their chances if it were just as simple as that. The downside of that is the impact it is having on a lot of people in the healthcare field. And while still rare, any child dying from this without the option to take a vaccine is huge tragedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
I'll also add the increased potential of future lock-downs, mandates, shortened/cancelled/reduced capacity sporting events, etc. etc.
But yeah, **** the rest of us.
Every dr and immunologist I have heard speaking on this topic says natural immunity is better than the vaccine(especially on variants) because the vaccine created is very specific. But are you saying there is a delta vaccine now? Haven't heard that if that is what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Literally every one I have seen says exactly the opposite except if you have actually had Delta, MAYBE. That is the current thing EVERY reputable source is saying. Just Google it for crying out loud. You need to look at your sources. There is no Delta specific vaccine yet. Don't put words in my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Totally agree. If it ONLY affected the people who refuse to take the vaccine then I would be fine with them not taking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Hold on. So Dohlphus, you don?t think it leaked out of a lab and was being manipulated with? That looks pretty clear to me. Not that it really matters now that it?s here to stay
I'm going to quote myself. That we are asking about this, that at least one hospital on the coast is about to set up tent field hospitals, that UMMC IS setting up a tent hospital in it's parking garage, that several others are quietly exploring it, that the MSDH has formally appealed for Federal health care workers, SHOULD tell you if you have one ounce of sense that we are in DEEP trouble here. Keep in mind that all of these organizations made it through the winter surge so they have experience with COVID now. If you watch them in their pressers, there is a REALLY different vibe now. Last year it was fear of the unknown. THIS time it is fear of the KNOWN. They are TRUELY scared. It should scare you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Wasn't trying to. I asked you a question. By the way, what makes it reputable? Is it because you agree with it? Anywhere you look, you can find information that says what you want to here. I'm sure there is no doubt you've read articles that the vaccine is better than natural immunity just like I've heard Drs and immunologist say the opposite. So who is right? Who knows. Guess that's what makes this country great. We can all choose to do believe what we want and do what the hell we want. By the way, I'm not anti-vaccine, but I'm not going to demonize people on here like some are doing cause they THINK they are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
OH BS. That is EXACTLY what you were doing with your "question"? What makes it reputable is that is attached to a respected health care or research outfit. Go look at Mayo, look at Johns Hopkins, UCLA, UAB, Vanderbilt, heck go look at UMMC. See if they publish their results in academic journals or YOUTUBE. See if they belong to an organization or FOUNDED their own. You are just making things up or parroting a few things you have seen that you agree with. Good lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Calm down Francis. I just read an article myself stating natural immunity and vaccines were both equally effective. Like I said, I'm not against vaccines. But since Ive had the virus, I havent gotten it yet because of natural immunity. I even went and had my antibodies tested and guess what? The DOCTOR said come back in a few months because you don't need it. Also spoke with another DOCTOR that said he would think of getting the vaccine within a year of having the virus. But yes, I'm just making shit up. Furthermore, do you have an article saying the vaccine is better against variants than natural immunity? I would like to read it, if so. Then I could make my mind up if the immunologist I listened to was lying or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
And the question I asked you earlier was about a delta vaccine. I was certain there was no such thing, but I was unsure what you were saying in your post. Was just asking for clarification.
Listen, the problem is this…. It is not about people getting Vaccines and not catching Covid…. It is about HOSPITALS CAPACITY…… if our ICU facilities are full up because there are continuous unvaccinated people occupying them, that is selfish as hell. Let me tell you this, if one of my loved ones need an ICU or vent due to heart attack or stroke and can’t get one because Joe Blow wanted to be a dumbass and did not get a vaccine, there maybe an accident where his shit gets unplugged. Be responsible and get the shot, it is not about you, it is about the hospital not being able to perform their duties because they are baby sitting jackasses that thought they were smart.
The scary thing with this one is that most of the patients hospitalized are under 50 according to Dobbs.
What article? From where? By who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Let's see it.
Not computer literate so I don't link stuff. But I'll give you the same advice Liverpool gave me. Look it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Edit: just asking. Do you believe in natural immunity?
Bill this board would be a lot better if you and your fear would just go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
So by "read an article", do you mean you actually found a peer-reviewed article in a medical/science journal and got this info directly from the source?...or you read some random article that popped up in your Google feed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Dang! Is this post gonna go away soon, I thought ED was about Msu sports?
Where are the mods?
To make my post sports talk, I think we are a 5-7 team, improved but so is everyone else! Defense looks ok but may lack depth. Offense, improved but how much is the question? I think we are solid at our special teams.
So you think we only win one conference game? I think our floor is 6-6 and ceiling is 8-4 this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I'm thinking we will lose a non conference game, I'm not sure we are last or not in the west but we a for sure close if not. I do think we could win 6 games, I'm not sure again about the overall play making ability. I do think Will Rogers will be much improved, I just hope he can stay healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelCurtain74
Yeah I'm done now. Some people just can't stand a point of view different from their own. Back to sportsQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Lol. Really? I asked you to provide the source of your point of view so I can read it for myself. You know, to understand where you're coming from by comparing it with what I've read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
If you're going to cut against the grain to that extent, I'd think one would be eager to share such novel insight.
Good for you and I hope others follow suit! And to add, I really like our DC, and we need play makers, I just can't see the "small game" being successful in the Sec, maybe for Bama because they have so much depth, size, speed and tradition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
No one wants to answer my questions about natural immunity, either, with sources. Never mind that I've talked to Drs., too. It's cool. It's America everyone free to choose(unless mandated) and decide what's best for themselves. Have a good one. You can have the last word. I won't respond.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Our DC did a lot with little last year imo given who all played in the back field. What do you mean by "small game"? I like our LBs and I think we are plenty good in the back field. Hope our DL holds up because that's where it counts. But I think we will be fine there too. I think the 3-3-5 is what's necessary to put speed on the field to cover space like these spreads O are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
You know what they call therapeutics that have established scientific evidence of actually working, medicine. Until then, it is essentially a placebo. Cannot be proven to help, just coincidental that some folks get better when taking them. Indistinguishable from the base statistical case. That is why they dismiss them.Quote:
Originally Posted by coastratdog
"Small Ball", little dink passes, no speed and open field runners with moves or break away speed. Oh I know we need some, but you gotta run the ball and throw the ball downfield more. We ain't gonna be very good against a 8 man front without stretching the defense and of course knock them off the ball. I think our OL may be be better, but depth again is a question in my mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
I got you. You were talking defense and I thought you were saying"small game" in reference to our 3-3-5. I think on O Will will be more apt to check to run plays this year to get people out of the drop 8. He should be much more comfortable this year running the O and getting us in the right play.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...cdc-chickenpox
"For the delta variant, the R0 is now calculated at between six and seven," Wenseleers says. So it's two- to three-times as contagious as the original version of SARS-CoV-2 (R0 = 2 to 3) but less contagious than the chickenpox (R0 = 9 to 10).
So why did the CDC say the delta variant was "just as transmissible as" the chickenpox?
For one, the leaked document underestimated the R0 for chickenpox and overestimated the R0 for the delta variant. "The R0 values for delta were preliminary and calculated from data taken from a rather small sample size," a federal official told NPR. The value for the chickenpox (and other R0s in the slideshow) came from a graphic from The New York Times, which wasn't completely accurate.
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CDC is using NYT for R0 values? Jeez
The problem isn't number of rooms. It's staff. We are down 2,000 nurses in this state from this time last year. That is disturbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I?m in healthcare. I?m not on front lines by any means, but have some insight. It?s not good right now from their perspective . My boss just gave us a rundown of the situation and the projections of the weeks to come. A lot of nervousness and fear about the coming weeks.
That sucks man.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
Where are you, btw?
Jackson metro. Like I said, I?m not in the thick of it, thanks to the Lord. But we just had a meeting and info was relayed. They are anticipating a very difficult month ahead. Hopefully projections are wrong.
Thank you for sharing this! It really helps promote accurate information, as we all know that memes from musicians on social media is the "go to" place for all health related information. I wish I had seen this before getting vaccinated. Had I know that PHDs in Wood Science and/or Parapsychology were questioning the science - I would have taken a closer look...Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It should be interesting. Following India and EU models with the variant puts us at around the half way mark of where they were. Should we follow the same model we should start seeing cases go down in the next two weeks. Not saying I'm right or wrong just looking at how fast Delta has moved through other countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman